If You Spent As Much Time On Mary Kay As You Do On this Blog…
A Pink Truth critic tried to post a lengthy comment using several of the standard lines we hear. My comments are in italics…
LOL!! Wow reading this blog sadens me! I have been in mary Kay for less thana year have a free car which isn’t hard to maintain to keep.
You just got that Mary Kay car. Tell me how easy it is a year from now. And we know the truth… it is NOT easy to keep because to do so you need to constantly recruit and convince women to waste money on inventory packages.
I put in less time than most women who have to work away from the home and I have a director that has never pressured me or made me feel as though I had to do anything I did not want to do. I am a director now and have never pressured anyone to buy inventory and explain that this is like any other business out there you have to build a client base and grow a team but as a director I do not ask anyone to buy inventory unless they feel they can put in the same amount of time they would for a part time job (20 hours a week or so) .
Right. All Mary Kay women like to say that they don’t “force” or “pressure” anyone into buying inventory. They just provide the facts. Which falsely state that you must have inventory if you want to be successful. But it’s YOUR decision!!!!
I am thinking the complaints on this site are coming from women who thought that they could do Mary Kay and get rich quick and not have to put forth effort.
You would be wrong. Those of us in Mary Kay never expected a get rich quick scheme, although recruiters like you often say things like they don’t put in a lot of time (see above!) or they can do part time hours (20 hours a week, anyone?) or that the rat race ends once you finish DIQ (not true… being a director is like a non-stop DIQ).
It is like any job you do if you don’t work at it it wont grow. If you dont get out of your comfort zone and meet new people then you wont grow your customers. I think if you spent as much timein your mary Kay business as you do this blog you would probably have succeeded.
99% of people lose money in multi-level marketing. No matter how hard they work, they will never succeed because MLMs are a money transfer game which use a product as the bait or front. In MLM, your success is not correlated with your effort. It’s simply a bad system in which most fail no matter what they do.
And just so you know, a number of us WERE “successful” by Mary Kay’s definition.
I make all of my kids activites, clean my own house and put my famiyl first, go to Uganda twice a year and still make double what I was before I did Mary Kay working full time and not being able to be there for my kids.
I would like to invite you to prove that your earnings are double with copies of your tax returns.
Maybe you had a bad experience and a director who lead you wrong and pressured you but I have not had that experience and know hwo to manage my time so that I can live by the philosphies Faith, Family then career.
We’ve heard the excuse that our directors must have been bad apples. That’s simply not the case. All directors mislead consultants.
Yes I put 40 hours in a week right now but I also bring home over $1000 a week as a brand new director and have earned a free car.
Liar, liar, pants on fire. There is no way you “bring home” $1,000 per week. To do that, your monthly wholesale production would have to be well over $10,000, and you’d have to be selling more than $1,000 retail per week. You’re not hitting either of those numbers.
Geez I don’t really have much to more to say just that you oviously had a bad experience and instead of blaming the company maybe you should look at who your director was and how they did things because I know that the things you state on here are not true and anyone who is not lazy and willing to step out of their comfort zone even just a little can make this work for them.
Both the individuals and Mary Kay Inc. are responsible for the financial loses of women in Mary Kay, because they promote deception. Mary Kay set up this system in which almost everyone fails, and the consultants and directors promote the system with the help of the company. Both are to blame.
BY the way I have lots of consultants that have not purchased any inventory and make a steady $1000 extra a month just actually working 5-10 hours a week so it is actually possible with the right leadership!
Again, you are a liar. To make $1,000 per month, a consultant would have to be selling a minimum of $2,500 per month, and that rarely occurs in Mary Kay because the products are so hard to sell. And it certainly doesn’t occur when a woman works 5 to 10 hours a week. The market is saturated, women are sick of the Mary Kay game, and there are much better products available in stores and on the internet (which don’t require the sales people hounding them to sign up or hold a party). I have studied the numbers in Mary Kay for years, and what you claim is simply untrue.
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exIBC78
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Please spell check people. If you don’t get the little red squiggly line under the words, then type in Word and copy and paste.
Other then that, I have heard it all before. I will repeat, we stay on here to help others and to have a safe place.
Post your schedule C, you just completed it, it should be close at hand. I would love to see your expenses.
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GirlNextDoor
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“Bringing home” is a very convenient term, but it doesn’t mean profit. If you make $1,000 from product sales and commissions, that does NOT mean that that amount is your profit, net gain, or take-home pay.
And the car is not free…
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Lazy Gardens
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Just checked my stats ….
Total Time Spent Online: 8 days, 15 hours and 23 minutes (since July 16, 2011, 11:07:42 AM).
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That’s 207 hours and 23 minutes So what could I have accomplished in those 8 days, 15 hours and 23 minutes if they had been spent 100% on Mary Kay.
it’s close to 47 weeks … 207/47 = 4.4 hours a week.
You know, that’s just about enough time to attend one 3-hour weekly “success meeting”, listen to the upline’s weekly conference call, and dust my inventory.
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MLM Radar Detector
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This woman’s grammar and spelling skills need a lot of work. If her high school English education was that bad, I’m not surprised that her math skills are also so bad she doesn’t know she’s being conned. The worst part is that, being a true “bee-liever,” she’s spreading the con to her equally-poorly-educated friends.
Mary Kay and all other MLMs love to prey on the innocent and the ignorant, because they are the most likely to bee-lieve without asking. If you don’t even know which questions need to be answered, how can you make an informed decision?
Clearly this woman doesn’t know the difference between Gross Income and Net Income. She has no idea what this business is costing her, nor how much time she’s really spending on it. All she notices are the orders being placed. When she says she has consultants who “make a steady $1000 extra a month just actually working 5-10 hours a week,” she’s only counting the hours spent at parties and the total party sales, not the hours it took to set up those parties nor the after-subtracting-all-expenses “profit.”
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enorth
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She goes to Uganda twice a year? She’s likely Ugandan and purchasing big inventories to ship – or take – over there. Weren’t there stories here about other Ugandan or Nigerian women who do this?
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TRACY
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No, she’s not Ugandan. She goes there for some sort of mission trips.
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BMW
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She may be going on mission trips, but it would not surprise me at all to learn that she is recruiting through there. Aren’t directors allowed to “open” new areas in other countries?
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TRACY
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I believe only NSDs can do that.
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jlein
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Eessd April landfill johns has done it I think you just need to be sd
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gotheart
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You don’t recognize a lie because you have been indoctrinated with the lifestyle of compulsive liar, telling lies is routine. It becomes a habit – a way of life.
However your children know you are lying. They live with the consequences of the lies you tell. They are hungry for food attention and guidance for life.
Let me show you you are lying, but are not aware of it.
“Yes I put 40 hours in a week right now but I also bring home over $1000 a week as a brand new director and have earned a free car.”
Earned a free car. Your terminology has given me the evidence needed to call you out. There is no free car in mk. Just ask your children what they have done without in order for you to to fill your need for recognition. You have a severe need to be recognized as important, that you would even come to this site, as busy as you say you are to validate yourself. Again you have exposed a wounded heart.
You have no business goin clear to Uganda. YOUR children are suffering. You are teaching them to lie. You are telling them they are not important. Your cycle is perpetuating.
You my dear need to mind your own business, you have plenty to take care. Teach your children not to lie or exaggerate. Show each of them how they have wonderful talents to build on. It is not about you any more. You had your time. It is about the kids now.
Sincerely,
Gotheart
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raisinberry
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“BY the way I have lots of consultants that have not purchased any inventory and make a steady $1000 extra a month just actually working 5-10 hours a week so it is actually possible with the right leadership!”
Gee..if they haven’t purchased any inventory…what the hell are they selling?
I swear these ladies are SO INTENT on saving face, and protecting the con, they have NO IDEA how transparently they LIE.
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Blsunderland
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If you don’t have inventory, you just place the order as they are placed with you… Then they wait a few days and get their product. Pretty simple.
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Tigger
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And there you have it, Ladies. All we needed to succeed was the ‘right leadership.’ Try getting that one by my former SD. She was a selling/recruiting machine. She worked her butt off for decades. Has since stepped down as SD to consultant.
This is such a tired line.
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mlank64
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How do you find out if someone that use to be a sales director no longer is a sales director. I use to know a lady who moved out of the area and last I checked she was a sales director. When I look up consultant locator, her profile list her as an independent beauty consultant with just her phone number to contact. No picture, no website, just a very generic contact phone numbers of her land line and cell.
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TRACY
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If she’s listed on the MK site as a consultant, then she is indeed not a sales director anymore.
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Howie
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Why must they start their rants with “LOL”?
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notapartyfan
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LOL Howie!
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anthonysmom
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“Yes I put 40 hours in a week right now but I also bring home over $1000 a week as a brand new director and have earned a free car.”
Ok, comparison time. I also work 40 hours a week, but for an actual employer. My gross pay is $55,457/year, so that’s a gross take-home of $1066/week. Obviously, that doesn’t include taxes withheld (nor does Ms. SD’s), or the most awesome & wonderful Roth 401k deduction of 6% that’s entirely matched by my company. Ms. SD – do YOU have a 401k matched by the company? Do you have a 401k at all? I didn’t think so.
Let’s also remind Ms. SD that I also have paid time off…and lots of it! My vacation balance is currently at 130 hours or 16.25 days – I’ve already used a few days of my 4 weeks of vacation. Also already used my personal day and my day & a half off for United Way contributions. I also have a bank of 456 hours of sick pay = 57 days AND 560 hours of sick pay at 50%/pay = 70 days.
So – all that to say, I think my $1066/week without the “free car” is WAYYYYYY better than Ms. SD’s. Actually, my car is pretty much free at this point b/c I paid it off and haven’t had a car payment since 2009!! Plus, when I leave the office at 4:30, I can go do whatever I want. I don’t have to warm stalk anyone, go to some stranger’s house in the unlikely event an appointment actually held, no dressing up to go to some cheesy meeting (in fact, my company just added “casual Friday dress” M-F from Memorial Day to Labor Day – so I’m wearing shorts to work – booya!). In other words, Ms. SD, I get to ENJOY my life, my husband, my kids and not be dashing off here or there, never feel guilty if I’m not doing an IPA, and we live debt free as well. I win.
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advertisingchick
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Great post anothony’smom! My favorite line was “I win” because it is so true!!
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notapartyfan
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Excellent points anthonysmom! I like the point you made about enjoying a paid-off car. No co-pay and working until infinity and beyond to keep it!
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Cinema Gal
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Amen to that!
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Kinzie
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Must be part of the showing-Pink Truthers-the-error-of-their-ways scripts.
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Katie Scarlett
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They’re trying to disarm us. “Haha, no harm no foul but I just want to point out how effin’ stupid yall are, when you aren’t looking.” Like that. LOL.
Maroons!
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job4me2
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*yawn*
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M. Lillian Hughes
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I have a Bachelor’s degree in Buisness Administration (so I SHOULD have known better than to get sucked in to MK in the first place). Also did post bachelor studies in managerial accounting and marketing. So I have some vague notion of what I am discussing -
out of thegeneral population, only TWO PERCENT of all people anywhere have the personality necessary to be successful in cold call selling. And let’s use that terminology for those who are employed by a sales organization, true employees on commission or base plus commission. Thee people also get benefits and paid time off.
When you add that factor in to a “business” system designed for failure, no wonder 99% of people involved in MLM’s fail.
Look, speaking of commissioned professional salespeople – in a true sales organization, not everybody gets hired for a sales job. First you have to show successful experience in sales. Often you have to demonstrate to the interviewer that you have the skill set needed to do cold call selling. If I had a product to sell, wouldn’t I want salespeople who could REALLY sell? I wouldn’t be telling every Jack and Jill that applied for a sales position they could get rich, I would want to weed out as many applicants as I could to get to the cream.
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