Women Don’t Join Mary Kay to “Have Fun”

One of the common “defenses” of multi-level marketing and the fact that 99% of people lose money in it… is that people just joined to HAVE FUN! They didn’t really want to make any money. They just wanted to meet people and have fun.

In this clip from my appearance on HuffPost live, I debunk the myth of joining to “have fun” with the help of Robert FitzPatrick, founder of Pyramid Scheme Alert.


  1. ExMKHusband

    When I was arguing with my ex-wife about Mary Kay, and after I said that the reason for selling Mary Kay should be to make money, my ex-wfe told me that that was not the main reason for selling Mary Kay, I asked her what was the main reason.

    My ex-wife stated her reasons for Mary Kay to include
    – the potential
    – to help women
    – to select colors
    My brain shut down at this point, the argument made so little sense at this point.

    My ex was delusional about selling Mary Kay.

    1. BestDecision

      And those 3 reasons make it either a hobby or volunteer organization. One of my biggest struggles as a Director and also having Offspring Directors was this mentality. In the 20/20 episode last week, 3 Cadillac Directors couldn’t even verbalized what their profits were for last year, one siting Mary Kay Ash’s reference to P & L standing for “people & love”. That has gotten so abused! She intended on her sales force to remember that when making decisions, always remaining ethical. She didn’t intend on the business to be a donation to the company or to the world. At that time, she truly did work passionately to help women make extra money, not buy a prize or a promotion. I’m very confident she’d be furious and so disappointed with how out of hand it has gotten.

      Just remember this. Once your wife quits, she’s going to be very hurt by her “friends” in the business dropping her like a hot potato. It’s very hurtful and shocking. Just be prepared.

      1. Mindy Bunny

        I would like to respectfully disagree regarding Mary Kay’s initial intent. 🙂 From Mary Kay’s admissions in her self-authored book it seems like she designed the current system knowing all along how predatory it was to women and the potential profit of selling women the idea of walking across the seminar stage.

  2. pittboss9569

    Hey ExMKHusband–my ex wife (yes, I am an ExMKHusband, too) was delusional about selling Mary Kay. Unfortunately, she still is.

    That would be part of the reason she is an ex wife.

    1. ExMKHusband

      My ex-wife is still delusional about selling Mary Kay. This year we did our last joint tax return, she claimed a loss of $2500 for Mary Kay. I think it is a good thing to write off business expense but a net loss represents money that was earned to start with.
      In order to write off that $2500 loss, someone (me) had to have earned that amount to start, $2500 was spent in excess of the Mary Kay income. but saved much less in taxes.
      My ex told me that we had different philosophies about money, and then refused to actually identify those differences.

  3. “Work when YOU want!” and “have fun” were thrown at me when a former coworker tried to recruit me to work for Amway. One look through the catalogs he gave me and I knew those buzzwords were all a lie (same thing happened at Vector Marketing too).

    Too bad I never knew of Pink Truth back then. I could have directed my coworker to this site so he could see what a fool he was and get out with as minimal damage as possible

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