Do Not Demotivate Mary Kay Ladies

If you are the same, hopeless woman that wrote a blog I came across today bashing the Mary Kay company and reponding to everyone’s posts that actually stood up for the business…then I pray for your sad, unmotivated soul. It is really saddening to me that you devote your time to producing a website that is revolved around a Mary Kay Hate Club, or CULT for that matter.

You think Mary Kay is a cult…but the numbers should prove to you that after 55 years of being successful and and the growing number of consultants, your opinions are just that…OPINIONS. Not facts. “99% of women who start Mary Kay, fail.” HAHAHAHA….how pathetic. Where is your research and proven facts that make this number relevant? I’d sure love to see them.

Why don’t you find something better to do with your time, like actually going out and MAKING MONEY…because clearly you aren’t making any money by discouraging women who DO have dreams to become better, more enthusiastic and positive people.
Maybe you haven’t learned yet, but Mary Kay obviously isn’t for everyone. However, I have noticed that the women that DO fail, are pushovers who were sucked into the fact that they apparently HAVE to buy a ton of inventory, in which it is not required.  Then they realized..”wow, I don’t have the motivation to go out and meet new women to actually sell this $5000 worth of product, maybe I should quit”……that’s where people like you come into play.

DO NOT DEMOTIVATE WOMEN WHO DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THEIR OWN LIVES, ESPECIALLY WOMEN YOU DON’T KNOW. Keep your negative thoughts to yourself and the few close friends that you speak with on a daily basis. LET WOMEN MAKE DECISIONS OF THEIR OWN, you are not their mother and it is not your responsibility to influence a personal decision of theirs!

I sure hope you are truly happy with your life, especially considering your goal is to make other women discouraged into bettering their own lives, or at least TRYING to. I would hate to know that someone with selfish goals like this isn’t experiencing a sad, pathetic life of their own. Karma will come around, lady…

GOOD DAY,
Don’t Be Lazy

24 Comments

  1. Lazy Gardens

    Remember that every corpse on Everest was once a highly motivated person.

    Here’s some research on how successful IBCs are.
    In 2006 I analyzed sales data from 26,279 IBCs across the USA, representing the potential sale of $39,139,496 in product, in 2005 and 2006.*

    Only 119 of the 26,279 consultants (0.45%) were selling enough to equal or exceed the take-home pay of someone who works 40 hours a week as a minimum-wage cashier at a convenience store.

    That’s 99.955% failure

    http://lazygardens.blogspot.com/2015/09/mary-kay-home-business-opportunity-or.html

    1. Pink Warrior

      How many of those consultants are hobby consultants, personal use consultants, how many are part-time and how many full-time. Just for research purposes? How many of those consultants are in T status? All of those factors will complicate the math you are doing.

      PW

      1. Char

        “How many of those consultants are hobby consultants, personal use consultants?” –

        Answer: All of them. MLM is not a business.

        Not only that, but when one’s “hobby” is dabbling in pyramid schemes, I think the word hobby sugarcoats reality. Scammer or petty con artist is far more fitting – whether you realize that or not.

        1. MSgtK

          No wonder MK lives on! These women are so so stupid! Ladies, take total MK income for the week, subtract total cost of product sold, and all expenses (office supplies, gas, utilities, income and double social security tax,etc.). Divide that figure by the total hours you worked (not just shows and facial, but all the prep and follow up time, warm stalking, etc.) and see your hourly rate. Yep, there are easier ways to make money 🙂 oh, you don’t have to worry about taxes because you don’t make enough to have to pay any? Well there you go! Accounting 101 at your local high school or community college 🙂

      2. Lazy Gardens

        “How many of those consultants are hobby consultants, personal use consultants, how many are part-time and how many full-time. Just for research purposes? How many of those consultants are in T status? All of those factors will complicate the math you are doing. ”

        Please explain why your classification scheme matters. I pointed out that less than 0.5% of the IBCs were making more than the take-home pay of someone who works 40 hours a week at a minimum-wage job.

        The “average person” starts a business to make money. The recruiting emphasizes the MONEY that can be made in Mary Kay – you can quit your day job, stay home with the kids, pay for their college and watch the money roll in. I haven’t seen any recruiting material that talks about the fun times you can have with a money-losing hobby ordering and storing Mary Kay products.

  2. Char

    This woman has been drinking way too much Boone’s Farm Tickle Pink. Eiyiyi

    And talk about hypocrisy:

    “LET WOMEN MAKE DECISIONS OF THEIR OWN, you are not their mother and it is not your responsibility to influence a personal decision of theirs!”

    So, do you drink out in the open, wear pants, light makeup, buy other brands, Jewish, agnostic, etc., etc.?

    1. Char

      Blast from the past. I found a site with pics of Tickle Pink bottles. One even has its .99 cent price tag still on it. Tracy may be able to grab the pic and use it – if she hasn’t already!
      https://www.drinksplanet.com/what-is-an-unopened-bottle-of-boones-farm-original-tickle-pink-worth-6811016.html

      It goes without saying that the rest of the normal, sound-mined business world doesn’t take MK consultants and MLMers seriously. It’s not a business. It’s product-based pyramid schemers in serious need of rehab.

    2. MLM Radar

      She wants us to stop demotivating women?

      She sounds like a frustrated Director or DIQ. She went to ALL the trouble to motivate them into believing the could successfully be the presidents of their own Mary Kay businesses. One by one, she painfully built her pyramid.

      Then one of them found Pink Truth, and told another. The word got around. Before she could say anything to stop it, her entire house of cards got blown away. Poof!

      Truth: If the Mary Kay opportunity was even a fraction as good as what it claims, she wouldn’t have to knowingly use deceptive tactics to build a pyramid. If it was really that good, people would line up outside her door with resumes and compete to join the team. If it was anywhere near as good as she claims, one obscure website wouldn’t make a difference. (Look at Glassdoor and she how many traditional companies get negative reviews. It’s a lot.)

      But she does use deceptive tactics, and no one lines up, and one little website is shining a huge spotlight of truth on the whole shady scheme.

      And I don’t feel the least bit sorry for helping focus that spotlight.

  3. raisinberry

    SO it is positive to continue to push the false narrative “I-stories” that Director’s tell to unsuspecting guests at local recruiting events. It is positive to lie to your customer and tell her you need a “face model”. It is positive to order top off inventory to reach a Star level inventory regardless if you have the sales to support it because your Director says you have to set an example for your team. It is positive to manipulate a potential recruit by saying you have to do “practice” interviews, when you know your SD has an unbeatable recruitment script that will back your friend into a corner. It is positive to order for other IBC’s on your team to “activate” them so you can “qualify”. It is positive to tout the 60/40 while living the complete opposite. Now substitute “ethical” for the word “positive”.

    Now substitute the word “discourage” for the word, “educate”. Burying women in credit card debt under the guise of “bettering themselves, self improvement and following dreams” isn’t empowering them at all. It isn’t positive at all. It is the very real “discouragement” we are trying to help them avoid.

  4. enorth

    “55 years of being successful”
    Yes, Mary Kay Corporation itself is successful. But 99% of its Independent Sales Force is not.

    “Growing number of consultants”
    From the photos I see on social media, many seem to be coming from Columbia. Not all MK consultants have the ability/means/connections necessary to build their businesses in South America.

    “Keep your negative thoughts to yourself”
    You already know the truth, and you’re angry about the truth getting out. We understand. But if the MK business opportunity is really so wonderful, what is said here doesn’t matter.

  5. BestDecision

    Yet another example of horrible grammar. And the sales force numbers ARE decreasing. Since you e obviously never been privy to topics like that that are often covered in Director meetings, I’ll clue you in: The numbers don’t lie. Seminar is now out of the arena. There are now only 4 divisions in the company. Leadership Conference has shrunk in attendance AND the number of sessions it has. Same with Career Conference.

    And if you’re a part of the U.S. Sales force, read this clearly: MK corporate cares about making money, and Mexico and China are their biggest markets. Therefore, they’re getting all the attention we used to 20 years ago.

    And, by the way, you can’t motivate anyone. Nor can any of us on here UN-motivate them. Facts and experiences are real. And lots of us were holding unit meetings at night and guest events on weekends while you were watching TV or sleeping in. That doesn’t sound like “unmotivated” to me.

    And I’ll enjoy my direct deposit check from my career that goes in today. Where’s yours??

  6. “Mary Kay obviously isn’t for everyone.”

    This one always gets me. When you are your recruiting your victims do you tell them this? Do you screen them to see if they are one of the ones that MKult isn’t for? No, you only have scripts for overcoming objections and determining personality types to figure out which script to use to convince ANYONE that MKult is for them.

    I wish I could just ask one time: Can you tell us which women MKult isn’t for?

    {crickets…}

  7. ran4fun

    “Where is your research and proven facts that make this number relevant? I’d sure love to see them.”
    She wants Proof – https://www.marykay.ca/en-ca/pages/earnings-representation?iad=footer_earnings-representation_EN

    “In 2017, there were over 32,400 members of the independent sales force of Mary Kay Cosmetics Ltd. in Canada. Of the 3,818 who were in the independent sales force for at least one year and who earned commissions, 47.4% earned commissions in excess of $100. Of the 455 of those who were Mary Kay Independent Sales Directors, the top 50% earned commissions during the year of $20,331 to in excess of $100,000. Of the 16 of those who were Mary Kay Independent National Sales Directors, 62.5% earned commissions during the year in excess of $100,000”

    3,818/32,400 = 11% in longer than 1 year; more than half earned less than $100 in commissions before expenses.
    455/32,400 = 1.4% are Sales Directors; 1/2 earned less than $20,331 commissions before expenses.
    16/32,400 = 0.05% are NSD; 6 out of the 16 NSDs earn less than $100,000 before expenses.

    These numbers are Mary Kay’s own numbers from their website, not our opinions. (I sure wish the US would require this disclosure.)
    I’ve studied 15 years of the Canadian numbers and the percentages continue to go down. These are facts, not opinions.

    1. Lazy Gardens

      “Of the 3,818 who were in the independent sales force for at least one year and who earned commissions, 47.4% earned commissions in excess of $100. ”

      52.6% earned LESS THAN $100 in commissions!

      “Of the 455 of those who were Mary Kay Independent Sales Directors, the top 50% earned commissions during the year of $20,331 to in excess of $100,000. ”

      And the bottom 50% earned less than $20,331 ….

  8. MLM Radar

    Most importantly, those are Mary Kay’s own numbers, and they’re just awful.

    Mary Kay tries to spin them positively by focusing on the top 50% of each group. But there’s no way to disguise that, after ALL these years in Canada, they only have 3,818 consultants in the whole country who have been in for one year and earned commissions.

    Only 3,818. After all these years. Something is very wrong with this picture.

    1. EyesWideShutNoMore

      How sad is that, eh? I’d love to know how many consultants are still active after the cheap starter kit blitz in March. Red jackets were licking their lips at the prospect of being a director with the “All in with 8” promo at an RJU event in Mississauga. Ontario apparently added over 2000 new IBCs in March, how many are left? Probably less than half!

      I was at the RJU in March and was disgusted at who people brought as “guests.” One girl honestly looked like she was homeless, and on meth. Open sores all over her face, really messy hair but not in an ironic way and malnourished. Of COURSE she signed up! I know it’s not the Mary Kay way to judge (LOL riiiiight) but holy hell, it was embarrassing. She probably didn’t know what she was coming to, because she was late and looked kind of shocked when she walked in to a roomful of people sitting and a speaker. The room reeked of desperation. 🙄

      1. BestDecision

        We once had an obvious crack or meth head at an event. She had rotted teeth and also had sores all over her face. I couldn’t wait to get in my car and get out of there. And this memory came as I realized today how strong the daily grind of looking for recruits was. We were more excited over that than a unit member who had a $100 day! So sad!

        1. EyesWideShutNoMore

          Here’s another one, years ago at a dinner and makeover, one IBC brought her coworkers….strippers. They were how shall we say….rough. Later on, as if we didn’t know, the IBC told a few of us that they were strippers. And, was so proud to tell us one lost all her teeth to meth but “earned enough money herself to buy new ones!” Super! She’s just who Mary Kay wants, a gal with goals and achieves them!

  9. Still Breaking The Basic

    “LET WOMEN MAKE DECISIONS OF THEIR OWN, you are not their mother and it is not your responsibility to influence a personal decision of theirs!”

    How do you explain these Mary Kay Ash-endorsed recruiting tactics:

    * Feel, felt, found
    * Use DISC to find her hot-button needs
    * Overcome objections and get to yes
    * CHOICES sheet

  10. Mountaineer95

    Well, first there’s this:

    “after 55 years of being successful…your opinions are just that…OPINIONS”. Yes, I did paraphrase. However, the error remains the same: your poor wording essentially states that our opinions have 55 years of success. Are you confused yet? Go diagram a sentence. It’s not rocket science.

    And your whole “empowerment” spiel about letting “women make decisions of their own”? Tell us, how are we wrong for, as women, making our own decisions to leave/avoid Mary Kay? Are we only “empowered” when we make decisions that YOU feel are right? If we make an assertive, girl-power type decision to NOT pursue the Mary Kay “opportunity”, have we lost your “Go Women” support??? Sure seems like it.

  11. Mountaineer95

    Ugh sorry, I found more things in this entry that I’d like to complain about…

    Such as:

    “…then I pray for your sad, unmotivated soul”…nope. I’m calling you out on having ever actually prayed for me to begin with.

    It’s so easy to SAY that you’re praying for anyone or anything, but when called out on it, can you rightfully say that you did specifically and genuinely pray for ME? For ANY of us? I doubt it. I bet your “I’m praying for you” was just your feeble attempt at a nicer way to say “bless your heart”.

    Don’t take me the wrong way, I’m not denouncing fellow Christians or otherwise religious persons.; I’m calling out any one of you critics who CLAIM to be but instead sully the name of your Lord by claiming to be praying for someone, or anyone, when you most certainly are not.

    Dang, this is one of those times when I really wished the featured critic wasn’t just a drive-by commenter here at PT; I’d really like to hear more about these so called prayers she is incessantly saying for us.

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