Mary Kay Didn’t Make You Do Anything

A note from a Pink Truth critic who says Mary Kay is simple, we made it hard, and it’s your fault if you were talked into buying inventory.

I am currently an IBC & I have found myself at this site as I too have had my occasional doubts about MK. Your right, these girls are pushed to order order order and their financials are rarely taken into account. However, I have to argue the fact that MK “put you into debt”.

MK didn’t MAKE you do anything, did one single person sit on you until you pressed that proceed to order button?? Did someone slip something in your drink and press the button for you??

YOU made those decisions. Maybe I am one of the lucky ones to be in such a considerate unit, and yes they still pushed the wholesale order and they push you to gain team members, (for their benefit? of course, but for yours as well) but they don’t put you in debt.

For those of you that let your director order for you… you gave her that permission and you did not ask to review the order before it was submitted. Again YOU are at fault.

I know what the area around me will be interested in and because of that, I chose to carry a small inventory which has helped me make sales and my clients know that I do not carry everything at all times.

I understand that debt builds up, but MK teaches you the skills to save money and put money aside, you cant just float out there and think your way will work. These ladies teaching you know what they are doing.

With a bachelors degree in entreprenuership, you have to realize that I have searched and searched for a start-up business and the start-up costs are out of the world for most. Every business takes some money to get you started and if you manage it properly then you can make the most of it. If you can’t afford something DON’T DO IT! Its a lot more simple than this site makes it out to be.

19 Comments

  1. cheryl mehrer

    Aaahhh, spoken like a true consultant! Wait until she uses that degree in entrepreneurship to move up the career path. With a little luck, the pink fog will clear before she ends up in too much debt and ruined relationships.

  2. Tamara

    If you have a Bachelor’s Degree you should know the difference between your and you’re. Also, you obviously have not considered the many examples here of MK women abusing recruits’ trust. They were not forced to do anything; but, they sure were swindled into it.

  3. Char

    “I am currently an IBC” –
    In reality, you are a first line retail customer of MK Inc. fooled into thinking you are something more. Just because you have a few silly people willing to pay double retail makes you, if anything, guilty of overcharging and taking advantage friends and family. Ewww.

    “MK didn’t MAKE you do anything, did one single person sit on you until you pressed that proceed to order button??” –
    Do you know the difference between a con and a robbery?

    “YOU [the consultant] made those decisions.”-
    Yep. Willing victims of an elaborate con who in turn con others.

    “Maybe I am one of the lucky ones to be in such a considerate unit, and yes they still pushed the wholesale order and they push you to gain team members,” –
    Ummm, which is it?

    “(for their benefit? of course, but for yours as well)” –
    False. Involving someone in a pyramid scheme is not to their benefit.

    “With a bachelors degree in entreprenuership, you have to realize that I have searched and searched for a start-up business and the start-up costs are out of the world for most.” –
    You must have skipped the part that MLM IS NOT A BUSINESS and 99% lose money.

    “Its a lot more simple than this site makes it out to be.” –
    No. MLM is quite an elaborate scam that often takes years to recognize without help. PinkTruth cuts through the MLM crap and exposes it for what it is, hopefully saving people years of loss and embarrassment. Clearly your “degree” did not teach you to avoid pyramid schemes. What a waste.

    Here’s 400 pages to further your studies on MLM, written by an expert, and free of charge:
    https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00017%C2%A0/00017-57317.pdf

  4. Ihatepink

    She has a Bachelor’s degree, yet her writing leaves something to be desired. She needs to get your/you’re usage figured out, among other flaws to fix.

    She’s absolutely right: MK didn’t hold a gun to my head and force me to buy inventory or do anything else. They lied to me and manipulated me to do it, just as they have lied to and manipulated so many others.

  5. Darlene

    Bachelor’s and still can’t use correct grammar? You don’t own a start up business. You’re(see what that is? It’s a contraction, meaning you are, not a possessive form) a little cog in a big wheel owned by people who do not care if you make money or not because you are buying from them and that is all that matters. The only thing you own is a closet of pink boxes because you bought them, not because you own a MK business. Richard Rogers(Ash’s son) owns half the business valued at $2.6B(as of 2013). It has 3 million salespeople across the globe and guess what? You’re one of those, not one of the owners of any business. Try to sale your “business” when you realize you are being duped, you’ll find out you can’t. That means you don’t have a business to run or to sell or ever to profit from(actual Schedule C numbers, not what you tell yourself or your family that you are making off selling a lipstick).

    1. MLM Radar

      I thought that was strange too. But I did a web search and found that was a degree offered by a number of schools. It’s supposedly a special focus business degree.

      I’ve just never heard of any of the schools which offer that degree. It doesn’t appear to be offered by any large school that fields a football team in a bowl game.

      Are those mystery schools accredited? Does their course of study measure up the big public university to down the road?

      Meaning: the value of that degree may not be any greater than the paper it’s printed on.

  6. Not a bot

    She admits that they pressure people to order, order, order without regard to their finances. Why would anybody trust or want to work with people that are out to squeeze money out of you for their own benefit and don’t care about you? She continues to be a consultant and defends MK, yet says she doubts them. Wouldn’t you rather do work and work with people you feel good about? If you have others under you, do you feel bad about scheming them to place orders they can’t afford.

  7. Juliet

    MLM Radar, I have done extensive research over my adult life on school accreditation and even when a school does have respectable accreditation, how is that school viewed in the real world of work. These mystery schools, as you call them, are just as likely to not be accredited for real, but espouse that indeed they ARE included in the traditional ranks of schools whose curriculum is given good marks for helping students with their futures.

    While MK and all these MLMs are vicious, ugly money whores, these low level and low quality schools are almost even worse, if indeed they are not worse. They feed off of non-traditional students, promising that their curriculum will cater to whatever criteria the potential student has as obstacles in order to get alllll that money from the government funded and privately funded student loans. By non-traditional students, I mean those who may have not graduated or received a G.E.D., those who have tried college and met challenges that prevented further attendance, people with emotional and/or mental issues who feel they have no ability to pursue a college degree, and so on. It is honestly horrific when you hear/know the true stories of the victims.

    The student will pursue the degree offered, and unfortunately – too often – the student DOES successfully receive the degree but when they enter the workforce, they learn the degree is honestly worthless. The courses that the ‘’school’’ taught did not prepare them for anything more than an entry level job in their course of study, far from the higher level positions they were promised by the school recruiter who signed them up.

    Graduating skilled and educated students is not the concern of these schools. They have received their money and it is now time to set the cattle free to roam. For the students it is a different matter. If the student wasn’t able to follow their course of study and drops out, the loans come immediately due for payment. For those who do receive a degree, six months after graduation, the loans are now due for payment. So regardless of their success or failure, they are absolutely saddled with thousands of dollars in debt that is likely beyond their ability to ever pay, especially since they DO NOT have a college degree or higher education of any true measure.

    This debt hangs over their heads for unimaginable periods of time as I have learned in trying to help a friend who has been trying, and failing, to pay on a 10+ year old student loan of $2000. Her school was not a scam one, I just mention this in that she cannot reasonably be expected to ever have the money to pay this loan back and it negatively affects her credit which causes issues when she needs to rent a new home or apply for car insurance, to name just two credit affected life areas. She is over 50 and medical issues prevented her from even attending the courses for the most part and no medical forgiveness of the loan has been possible.

    Sorry to go into such detail but I feel like it is a little known field of horror and if I do detail things, I pray it may help even one person to keep from falling into that trap.

    These ”schools” steal far more than just the loan money.

    So yes, MLM Radar, even without a football team lololol ‘’mystery schools’’ can be very good!! But oh my, there are so many resources for checking the quality of a school’s “accreditation” but people have to know about the existence of these disreputable ones to see the importance of checking out the credentials.

    1. cbbgreat

      Juliet – thank you for helping someone navigate this horrible situation. Not to minimize your message, there are lots of similarities to MK:
      “they feed off of non-traditional students, promising that their curriculum will cater to whatever criteria the potential student has as obstacles”
      MK-speak: overcoming objections using Feel Felt Found regardless whether it is genuine or ethical
      “Graduating skilled and educated students is not the concern of these schools. They have received their money and it is now time to set the cattle free to roam. ”
      MK-speak: front-loading of inventory
      “So regardless of their success or failure, they are absolutely saddled with thousands of dollars in debt that is likely beyond their ability to ever pay”
      MK-speak: blaming the IBC when the product doesn’t “fly of the shelf” and can’t pay the credit card bill of the front-loading
      “people have to know about the existence of these disreputable ones to see the importance of checking out the credentials.”
      Pink Truth: prove MK is “taught” at Harvard, show me your Schedule C to prove a person can make money, acknowledge IBCs are the customer not a “business owner”.

  8. KayNoMary

    Sounds like this person got her alleged degree at a diploma mill. Four years to study entrepreneurship and she doesn’t realize she doesn’t own her own business and is in reality just a commission-only contract salesman working for someone else’s company. A student in a real business 101 class could figure that out.

    1. Char

      “just a commission-only contract salesman” –

      Where “re-sales” of products that were already sold to her as the first line customer aren’t even the priority. Recruiting is.

  9. Autumn

    Generally the two bit colleges being discussed are also FOR PROFIT and are every bit as dangerous and sharkey as MK is. OTOH I am aware of a legitimate state college offering a two year entrapreurship program, but that doesn’t mean that one has capital to start anything useful at the end of it. They’ll just have less debt.

  10. MLM Radar

    Any entrepreneurship study program that doesn’t teach how to recognize an MLM as a scam “business” and avoid it should be shut down and give students a full refund.

    This poster’s entrepreneurship degree obviously didn’t teach how to avoid scams. Or maybe they did and our letter writer just figured she was too smart to listen.

  11. Former Consultant

    So, let me see if I understand this. MK teaches you how to save money so you won’t go into debt, yet when you are “recruited” by them ( should you fall for their shtick), they convince you to “buy” inventory when you don’t have to in order form them to benefit ( get their commission), talk about the MK credit card, which probably has a high interest rate, and most probably don’t want, you are trying to get anyone and everyone you know to buy the inventory you bought so you can pay off credit cards, or whatever, and they TEACH you how to save money?

    I must be living in some warped, alternate universe where MLM’s do stuff like this and it’s “Legit”. Please. The smurf on my desk is more legit and he lives in a mushroom shaped house in a smurf village away from Gargamel. If you haven’t figured out by now that what you are doing is a scam, then you are too far from reality to know that you are a PAWN in a CON game and your job is to CON others.

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