Pink Truth Could Be More Credible

Too bad we’re not showing the other side of Mary Kay, because we’d look more credible if we did. Sigh.

I recently found your site. I am searching for the other side of the stories. I am seeing a lot negative feedback about Mary Kay. I think it hurts the credibility of your site to only project the negative side of any one company. In this instance it is Mary Kay.

I would feel that the site would be more credible with a two sided version of these stories. The blog’s come off as a complaint session. It may be therapuetic to those scorned by poor decision making.

I think Better Business Bureau does a reputable job exposing unethical business practices because at least they examine both sides of the story.

Hypothetically, what about the gal that joins Mary Kay, embezzles from her own company to pay for something non Mary Kay related and blames her poor money management on the cult like influence of the company? Is this a Mary Kay flaw?

I think that as I am reading these “truths”, that which your web site is misleading me to believe are “truths”, I am more influenced to join and stay with Mary Kay. I am sure this is not the first of emails expressing concern over the nature of your site. I would just like to encourage you to raise your standards a bit and verify stories and present both sides. I am so disappointed that women would make such a public display of their fundamental personality flaws that helped them to the brink of Mary Kay disaster.

Well, if all the truth we’ve given here makes her more likely to stay with Mary Kay, It hink she’s probably beyond help. 

29 Comments

  1. HatesPink

    Does a Mary Kay recruiter offer both sides of the story? Does a sales director answer your questions during a Monday night meeting, even if they are negative? Does a sales director alert you of the new product changes coming in two weeks? Does a sales director encourage you to place that order, knowing the products are obsolete?

    You aren’t allowed to question, have any doubts or show any negativity around any MK consultants or customers.

    Maybe when MK opens their closets, then both sides can be discussed. Until then, read the truth, Pink Truth.

    1. nomoremlm4me

      ^^^ding ding ding!!!^^^ You hit the nail on the head, HatesPink. No one “in the bubble” will answer anything if it’s not a pro-MK question, nor share any information that might decrease sales.

  2. Talia

    Using this logic, everyone currently in Mary Kay needs to ‘present both sides’ when recruiting. I mean, we all knew they needed to ‘raise their standards’ but I’m glad to see a dedicated KayBot confirming the current recruitment process is substandard.

    If you look at all the sites and Facebook pages and personal stories that only present the positive side of Mary Kay (I’m not saying the information is true, just that it is positive), this one site hardly balances the scales.

    Also, ‘embezzlement’ has an actual legal meaning and choosing to spend money which is legally yours on your bills rather than buying more makeup to sit on the shelves is not covered. Could Mary Kay please stop hijacking words and rewriting the meaning, it’s annoying.

    1. MLM Radar

      Embezzle. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

      Embezzlement (definition): Stealing something entrusted to you that belongs to someone else.

      How many times have you, Ms. OP, told your recruits that you own your MK business? Probably a lot. You can not embezzle from yourself.

      Here’s a question for you: How much money did you put into your MK business from your savings, your household budget, your J.O.B. earnings, or that credit card you personally agreed to pay? Has your MK business repaid you for that cash?

      Your MK business owes that money back to you. Taking money out of your MK business isn’t embezzlement. It’s repayment of that debt.

      1. Char

        “But Mitchell says she spent more than $300,000 of the stolen money to help friends and other women start their own Mary Kay businesses. She also claims that she spent $40,000 helping families pay bills and mortgages, and another $100,000 on her own Mary Kay business.”

        The perfect Mary Kay consultant. She “found a way” to climb up the ladder. At least she stole from association funds and not directly out of the pockets of her friends and families – like most consultants do. NTL, pyramid scheme participants are all the same, as they all are…..pyramid scheme participants.

        1. MLM Radar

          By stealing association funds she directly stole from the pockets of all the homeowners in those neighborhoods. T

          There is no good spin on this theft possible. Even if she forfeits all her assets, the homeowners can’t pay for road maintenance and grounds keeping with junk makeup.

          The only take-away on this, and it’s a bitter pill, is that HOA financial records should be verified by a CPA, and not just entrusted to someone who figured out how to operate (and potentially abuse) Quickbooks.

          1. Char

            “By stealing association funds she directly stole from the pockets of all the homeowners in those neighborhoods.” – Duh!

            Folks, there was as element of sarcasm in my post. Geesh! You think I don’t know stealing is bad.

      2. Shay

        “But Mitchell says she spent more than $300,000 of the stolen money to help friends and other women start their own Mary Kay businesses. She also claims that she spent $40,000 helping families pay bills and mortgages, and another $100,000 on her own Mary Kay business.”

        that reads like a parody. smh
        oh and she got 30 years in prison for under a million dollars. some steal MILLIONS and only get 7 years.

    1. enorth

      Along with misspelling therapeutic, how is someone “scorned by decision-making”? LOL

      This was someone working very hard at trying to sound intelligent and unbiased. It didn’t work.

      And take some grammar and composition classes. They will help you get a real job.

      The word is out. The gig is up. People hate MLMs.

  3. Char

    “I would feel that the site would be more credible with a two sided version of these stories. The blog’s come off as a complaint session. It may be therapuetic to those scorned by poor decision making.”

    Dear author,

    I dare, DARE you to give the same advice to: rape victims, abuse victims, racism victims, and those harmed by drunk drivers.

    I can hear you now presenting ‘both sides’, “Oh, you were raped? Quit complaining. You made a poor decision wearing that dress.”

    You should not only be ashamed, but also embarrassed about your ignorance regarding the endless-chain recruiting scheme – and then offering advice on the subject. That’s what Mary Kay is btw, in case you didn’t know before speaking.

    FWIW, you should join Mary Kay. They like brainwashing women that can be easily duped into handing over their money, and don’t understand what they’re doing. You are the exact kind of sharp woman they are looking for. lulz

  4. Lily in NYC

    Wow, this reads like an essay a 5th grader writes when they are learning how to structure paragraphs. Lady, if you are so easily influenced that reading this site makes you MORE likely to join MK, then you are beyond hope. How about you go ahead and do it and then come back here in 6 months to prove you aren’t in debt? It sounds like you will be perfect for MK! (or any cult, really)

  5. cindylu

    Every time I see a Kaybot misuse the word embezzle, I want to scream. Hundreds of ill informed Directors and consultants are required to speak positively about MK. This went on for 50 or more years. The indoctrination is very persuasive and subtle. It takes a while before the recruit sees clearly. You can sugar coat MK and blame the consultants if you want. However once the huge bills mount up, the time away from family produces guilt, the classes mostly cancel and reality of a room of unsold products sets in, why speak positively of the travesty that is MK in 2019? This is a 1960’s style mlm that hasn’t worked in decades. Since MK herself promoted the three foot rule of recruiting, then often those convinced to join MK cannot actually afford it. That single mom trying to feed her kids isn’t embezzling. She is surviving. The only misuse of funds going on is in persuading an already destitute woman to place an order before what she already has sells. Why do Directors ask for more orders? It’s because the Director wants to pay for a pink car, (The Car that IS NOT ever Free), a better room at seminar, a tin star for her lapel, a fake sash or a chance to be revered on a throne by other women. Seminar brings out all that is selfishness and greed. The only misuse and abuse happening is in pretending MK is a viable business. It cannot be done without hurting many women for decades. Also don’t get sick like I did. My choice was to try and sell from the hospital (I’m joking). My director etc. never called. I found out quickly about that go give spirit and the BS of those catch phrases. You mention Better Business Bureau. You must be joking. They are run by their fellow business owners. They would never go up against an mlm. Hundreds of positive MK paid for tributes. One lone blog by those who left and realized it was not real. This site is for healing, to warn that the confusion you felt was real, this is not your shame, this is an mlm, and you were manipulated. It’s unfortunate that this one site about how our lives were changed negatively is somehow denounced. I get it no one likes a whistle blower. This is the group mentality. Sadly there is a tipping point. Mine was seeing my director recruit someone who paid with her families grocery money. My second straw was realizing that when you get sick, you are no longer useful and to be discarded.

  6. BestDecision

    We, as Directors, were taught to NOT discuss or acknowledge both sides. We were shunned and then shunned our own unit members when voicing “negativity”. Enough is enough, and that’s why so many people are on here!

    And I’m so sorry the educational system let you down and through the cracks. Your grammar is, at best, a sixth grader.

  7. ran4fun

    “I think that as I am reading these “truths”, that which your web site is misleading me to believe are “truths”, I am more influenced to join and stay with Mary Kay.”

    Don’t try to con us into thinking you are considering joining MK. You are already in MK. It’s a dead giveaway because nobody outside of MK uses the phrase “embezzling from her own company”. That is such a stupid phrase which is meant to put the failure of MLM on the person, not the system.

    And BTW – Danger-Thin Ice; Danger-High Voltage…”Oh my, those negative warnings just make me want to walk on thin ice and touch high voltage.” said no sane person ever!!!

    1. Mountaineer95

      “And BTW – Danger-Thin Ice; Danger-High Voltage…”Oh my, those negative warnings just make me want to walk on thin ice and touch high voltage.” said no sane person ever!!!”

      Exactly! How asinine is that “logic”?

      I should admit, one habit I have is when I’m eating with friends somewhere and the first one of us to taste the soup says “Oh that’s HOT! Be careful!”…and of course I immediately stick a spoonful of it in my mouth as if to confirm that yes, it IS hot. It’s sad how many times I’ve done this, and not once was it ever a beneficial experience for me, just a burned tongue, and regrets every time.

  8. Lazy Gardens

    What about the gal that joins Mary Kay, embezzles from her own husband’s salary and the household’s maintenance fund to pay for something Mary Kay related?

    ************
    If you have solid facts to refute ANY statement made on this site, please send the evidence to Tracy. That means bank statements, tax returns and the like.

    Claims not backed up by documentable, verifiable evidence will be laughed at.

  9. PeachyNotPink

    I would feel that the site would be more credible with a two sided version of these stories

    Ah, but PinkTruth does offer a two sided version of the stories. They offer the MK version and then they offer the truth.

    Can’t get more fair than that….

    1. Mountaineer95

      And actually, PT does this all of the time. I think most obvious are the posts here regarding income “claims” versus income “truths”. That’s both sides. Oh wait, she means only the “positive” MK sides should be shared. The problem is, we can’t find any.

    1. NeverAgain

      My sister was thinking about becoming a personal use consultant. She had already heard all my experiences of being both a consultant and an assistant, but she, too, thought that it might have been just sour grapes. I tried to be as fair and neutral as possible when telling her how one becomes a PUC. I did tell her that her director would call her at the end of the month, asking her to put in an order to help the team make production. She decided not to do it and instead just order through a friend who already was a PUC. Two weeks later, her PUC friend called her to tell her that she was putting in an order because her director had called to tell her that she really needed everyone in the team to step up and asked her to put in an order. The PUC didn’t really need products yet but felt obligated. Wouldn’t it have been nice to know that this would happen before you signed up? You may sign up anyway, but at least you would be prepared.

  10. Mountaineer95

    Dear email writer: you can start by asking one simple question of your director. How many other consultants are in your area? It’s simple, and she DOES know that number (at least how many of them are in her unit). Does she hem and haw, maybe tell you it doesn’t matter, or she doesn’t know? Well then she’s not giving YOU both “sides” of the story. Why? Because you cannot possibly gauge exactly how great (or not so great) your MK opportunity truly is if you don’t know how many consultants you are competing with for the same fixed amount if available dollars that potential “customers” in your area can/will spend on MK products. Seriously, this should be one of the very first questions that any potential consultant asks when the MK opportunity is first mentioned to them. And you’ll find that the MK practice of not presenting all sides, good and bad, and all facts, good and bad, starts immediately. I think you should spend your time emailing MK directors and MK Corp suggesting that THEY show both sides rather than asking PT to do so. After all, any truth that PT shares about the bad side of MK cannot hurt any consultant…but every lie that MK presents about the “positives” of the opportunity directly harms the consultants.

  11. I would feel that MKult would be more credible if they released their yearly earnings representation.

    See how that works?

    The fact that MKorpse fails to provide any earnings representation negates the entire premise of your drivel.

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