Mary Kay’s Spiritual Spin

Written by SuzyQ

This was the hardest part for me. I remember running into a director at a gas station after my first seminar in 1998. I asked her “I don’t get this part of making God my business partner.” She said “You will.” At that seminar I heard Cindy Williams say “God does not call the equipped, He equips the called.” I was stunned. Born and raised as Episcopalian, I had never heard God’s name evoked in any business opportunity before, and I was at a loss for words.

Fast forward a few years and I was a member of a semi-elite Bible Studies group for directors only. This involvement called for me to drive 100 miles round trip to breathe the same air as other directors who were more worthy than me. I remember the first time we prayed for more red jackets and more production. Another stunning moment. The leader of the group was a soon to be NSD and we were all in awe. She referred to women like me as “baby Christians.” I knew I was lacking but was unclear where my growth needed to be focused.

We read all the books (Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, whoever wrote The Prayer of Jabez) the list goes on and on. Whatever the “Christian” book of the moment was, we bought it and read it. My business did not grow. I was not successful…

I remember going to church and asking my Priest for a moment after the service. I told him that I had been learning that my goals are not big enough, my deserve level isn’t high enough, and I asked him if I had been saved. I was in tears and he held my hands in his and suggested that maybe I try a different Bible study group. He also assured me that we had the “saved” thing covered when I was baptized as an infant.

My senior director was fond of saying that when she died, she was going to have to face Mary Kay and God, in that order. She was a lapsed Catholic and I always thought that was kind of hinky, but then again, when we got the call from MK Corporate that MK had died, I cried, so there you go. The point is that Mary Kay became entangled with God in my head and it was devastating.

I am not a stupid woman. I have advanced degrees. (That would be plural.) I can’t believe I fell for this shit. It got to the point in my head that if I quit MK, I was also quitting God. Can you take a moment and breathe and think about how powerful this thinking was for me? I was letting “the enemy” steal my dreams; I was letting negativity into my life. The response from my sister directors when I mentioned reading MK Sucks (what Pink Truth was called in the very beginning) was devastating. I was quickly identified as the person to avoid and to pray for because I was letting Satan into my head. I was doubting. I was not working enough, I was not believing enough.

I quit after telling my unit to read Pink Truth, make their own decisions, and decide what was best for them. I returned my inventory and surprised my senior with a huge hit in June the year I quit. Rumor has it she was really pissed. We have that in common.

I have been out of Mary Kay for so long, but I am still amazed at the women who fall for this crap. That’s what it is, it’s crap. The money is in recruiting and that is the entire focus. The product line is changed to make sure consultants order and the directors get their cut. I am appalled at the NSDs who quote scripture out of context as a way to justify their behavior. This twisting of “religion” and “God” and “spirituality” is morally corrupt and emotionally damaging.

To put the period on my sentences here… the woman who led my super special Bible study sessions did in fact become NSD. She did her 5 years and quit. I wonder how she sleeps at night. How do any of the “leaders” in MK sleep at night?

35 Comments

  1. BestDecision

    Your journey almost exactly mirrors mine right to the end! The Prayer of Jabez! When I asked our priest about it, he scoffed and said it’s obviously a book made by a man trying to get rich by telling people magical things will happen with it. I prayed it every day. I read Joyce Meyers, Joel Osteen, John Maxwell. All of them! I spent so much money hoping God would finally hear my needs for a bigger, stronger unit and more offspring, all because I read what someone lectured us we needed to read. I, too, was told I wasn’t Godly, and I’ve been shunned and lied about since leaving.

    If the opportunity is that reliable and that promising, you don’t need a book to tell you how to get God to bless it.

      1. enorth

        “Not all who sound religious are really godly people. They may refer to me as ‘Lord,’ but still won’t get to heaven. For the decisive question is whether they obey my Father in heaven. At the Judgment many will tell me, ‘Lord, Lord, we told others about you and used your name to cast out demons and to do many other great miracles.’ But I will reply, ‘You have never been mine. Go away, for your deeds are evil.’ ~~ Matthew 7: 21-23

  2. MLM Radar

    The real question isn’t whether you take God for your business partner. It never was.

    The real question is, “Would God take YOU for a business partner?”

    Would God stand behind a business partner who lies, withholds important facts, exaggerates income claims, encourages people to go into debt for a cheap prize, shuns women who question them, and has a “fake it til you make it” business?

    The only god I know of who does that has horns and carries a pitchfork.

  3. ThinkPinkThinkAgain

    “The point is that Mary Kay became entangled with God in my head and it was devastating.”

    I was worried about this from the beginning of my time in Mary Kay. I’ve attended a variety of churches throughout my life, but none where I heard Joel Osteen mentioned in a positive light. I used to listen to the Million Dollar Message daily and I got seriously freaked out when I realized how many of the directors on there quoted Osteen. But that wasn’t enough to drive me out of Mary Kay. I said to myself, “I just need to be more careful about the messages I’m passing to other consultants and the way I choose to represent God. Lots of churches that claim to be Christian are loaded up with the prosperity gospel. That doesn’t mean all of them are. It’s probably the same with Mary Kay–some directors are into it, others are not.”

    Unfortunately, the prosperity gospel is everywhere in Mary Kay. God and Mary Kay can get all mixed up in your head. When you’re working but don’t see results, you “surrender” to God–that’s good. When your surrender doesn’t bring about new results, you blame your own lack of faith–that’s not. You never think to question the system itself because you do not want to be “negative,” so you find yourself questioning the strength of your faith and belief in God.

    I think God can work through anything. I did see consultants and directors come to Christ through their involvement with Mary Kay. That does not mean that God is not deeply grieved by the twisted, “me-first,” “Jesus-as-Santa-Claus” gospel perpetuated by Mary Kay leaders.

    It is my hope that consultants and directors, both those who came to Mary Kay as Christians and those who become Christians through their involvement with Mary Kay, become involved in healthy churches that offer discipleship, Scriptural teaching, and a counter-argument to the prosperity-gospel-seeped version of Christianity that runs rampant in Mary Kay.

    1. BestDecision

      The root of it is that we were all so hungry to reach the big dreams we were sold and that we’d emulate a person that had reached what we wanted. If an NSD says to say it, buy it, do it—we did it. Funny…no priest or preacher I’ve ever heard from a pulpit has said I wasn’t doing enough to be in God’s favor or that I needed to be a “leader who is a reader” and go out and buy a certain book.

      Desperation will make people do anything.

    2. enorth

      “prosperity-gospel-seeped version of Christianity”

      This false gospel is also rampant in other MLMs. The It Works and Arbonne reps spew it. “God gave you this opportunity and you need to follow His plan.” And after months of failure? “God is still molding you, He knows this is not yet your time and you’re not ready for success.” (In other words, don’t quit my team! I need your money!)

      Don’t fall for this scripture-twisting, manipulative trash.

  4. ran4fun

    In my mind, “business partner” implies someone on equal standing.
    CEO of my business sounds more appropriate for God.
    Prosperity gospel has really harmed the church. There is nothing “Godly” about any MLM.

  5. Alice Owens

    I AM so excited about my 5th re-start with Mary Kay!!! Yea for me! I am so excited the business of Mary Kay has not faltered with so much negativity in the air. Thank You Father for allowing the founder Mary Kay to envision the vision of women empowerment. Although she is no longer with us her DREAM to empower women lives on! Now, I must do the same work as the founder in an effort to obtain the same results as the Founder! As a leader, she empowered women to prosper; spirit, soul, and body! As a lady she conquered all odds against women. And as a lover of God she believed in and on His word and prospered financially to the point of driving many (not one) but many Pink Caddi’s! The proof of ones results rest in the eyes of the visionary! Can you see the vision of Mary Kay? It’s already been written and this Angel chooses to ride with it! See you at the Top or from the Top! The choice is yours!!! Muah! Love y’all!

      1. Alice Owens

        PINK TRUTH!
        I wasn’t true to the vision. Something you must understand; when God gives a vision and that vision is written down the only thing left is for that vision to come to pass. It’s called manifestation (Habakkuk 2:2) guarantees it. But anyhoo’s. Just like any other business, job, or opportunity you must put in the work. Without the work the vision cannot materialize and the opportunity to build relationships and increase revenue will not be attained. Again I say this is not my first rodeo. I mean really what’s the point? You receive from the vision only what you are willing to put towards the vision; God will bring the increase. The Word of God is true. It does not lie. It is written beloved I wish above all things that you prosper and be in health even as your soul prospers. Your soul consist of your mind, will, imagination, intellect, emotions, and also your reasoning abilities. That’s 3rd John 2. I have learned to agree with the Word of God; it is powerful and quick. It is more sharper than any double edge sword. It cuts even dividing asunder joint and marrow. It is the discerner of the thoughts and intents of a person’s heart
        (Hebrews 4:12). It is the heart of the visionary that I have discerned. I perceive the vision of Mary Kay to be true. True to faith, family, friends, and finances. That’s nothing to readily shut down but something to readily embrace. Maybe I signed up on the wrong blog. I thought this was PINK TRUTH!

        1. TRACY

          Oh I see. If you pray more you will make it this time?

          Or it was all your fault because you didn’t believe enough?

          Why do you suppose so many women lose money in MK? Is it because they’re all lazy losers? Or could it be that MK is a system that guarantees nearly everyone will fail?

          Let us know when you try for the 6th time.

          1. Alice Owens

            Look! I AM convinced I have made the right choice in this season of my life. And I understand discontent somebody needs to be blamed. So why not blame Mary Kay for you not accomplishing your goal. It’s easier that way. But not for me I take full responsibility for my life choices; good or bad, happy or sad. No one has that authority over me; not my Independent Beauty Consultant Recruiter or not even my National Director. Nobody! Nobody but me. So what I choose to accomplish with this Womens Empowerment Opportunity lies within my pursuit. I am pursuing it and guess what? I AM going to accomplish my set goal! Now enough of this back and forth; I have lives to IMPACT!
            Muah! ❤ y’all!

            1. TRACY

              When goals are not accomplished in Mary Kay, there is plenty of blame. First, the company has to be blamed because they have a set up a system in which almost everyone fails. (But they make their money on the orders!) Then you have to blame the recruiters who lie about the money that is made.

              If MK was a real business, I’d be on board with you taking responsibility for your success or failure. But this is not a business. It is a pyramid scheme. And you’re foolish for not realizing that your repeated failure is because this is a system set up to make you fail.

            2. BestDecision

              Have you heard of NSD Pam Shaw? She preached to us about not watching TV, yet she has one in her own kitchen. And she uses MAC and Bobbi Brown products. And she has a makeup artist do her face before events, so it’s unattainable for a regular person
              Ike yourself to copy.

              Hypocrisy is EVERYWHERE in MK. Have you read your November Applause yet and looked at the commission checks? Have you realized only 1 person in the entire company finished her Grand Achiever car in July?? Very few actually make the equivalent of “executive income”, yet all those people are lying and faking their success.

              Please stop quoting the Bible and use your brain to deal in facts that are laid right in front of you. Five attempts at MK is all the proof you need.

            3. “I AM convinced I have made the right choice in this season of my life.”

              So were members of the People’s Temple… and Heaven’s Gate… and the Branch Davidians…

              PS: I’ve never been in MKult, or any other pyramid scam, so I am NOT blaming Mary Kay for me not accomplishing my goal. What’s your foolish explanation for my disdain for ALL product-based pyramids?

        2. Lazy Gardens

          Alice, you are “proof texting” – taking tiny bits out of context to make them seem to support your desire instead of reading the books as a whole work.

          The second book of Habakkuk consists of five prophecies about the Chaldeans (Babylonians), not your career in Mary Kay. The second book of Habakkuk contains HIS vision that was to be written down and read by the people of his time.

    1. Wasrings90

      Dear Alice,
      If the number of pink Cadi’s is how you measure success, I truly wish you the best. Everyone measures success differently, I happen to feel being kind, and enjoying time with family and friends means one is successful.

    2. ran4fun

      5th re-start… What makes her think this time will be any different than the first four times?
      There are none so blind as those who will not see…

      “The proof of ones results rest in the eyes of the visionary!” – what??

      “..this Angel chooses to ride with it!” – you’re calling yourself an Angel? sorry, not Biblical.

      “Muah! Love y’all!” – I doubt you really mean that, but what Pink Truth offers is tough love, which is actually more helpful than fake love. We actually do care about you. Please reconsider this 5th try at MK.

      1. Alice Owens

        Good Afternoon,

        Just checking my email….and noticed your reply. Let me try to address it.

        When Nehemiah tried to re- build the city there was naysayers on the wall trying to tell him why he should not rebuild the city. Well that’s what’s happening now! Today. That didn’t stop him; nothing mystical about it : it’s written for the people had a mind to work! And guess what the city was rebuilt. I have a mind to work and Guess what! my Mary Kay business shall be re-established. I AM optimistic as opposed to being pessimistic. Now let me continue to service my clients while it is that I also I develop my business and secure my relationship with my newly found friends and future family members. Love y’all! ❤

        1. MLM Radar

          “Servicing” clients is not something that’s normally talked about in polite company. But I digress…

          You’ve got part of your bible interpretation correct, but you’re missing a very important point. God will help you grow your business if (1) you’re acting according to God’s rules, and (2) growing your business is part of God’s plan for you.

          If your business is a “Fake it til you make it” pyramid recruiting scheme, selling overpriced low-quality products, you can be sure that’s you’re NOT following God’s rules.

          But I can bet your Director loves you for it. Every time you try DIQ and fail, you hand her a fresh group of recruits that she can exploit for her unit ordering quota. She doesn’t have to work for them. She just has to watch you fail, and it’s payday for her. Ka-Ching!

          Do you understand that if you somehow DO make Director, none of your earlier recruits will be reassigned to back to you?

          Do you understand that if your Director really was interested in helping you make Director, you’d have finished DIQ a long time ago?

          1. JustSayinSweetie

            There’s no way she’s being for real. I mean, ok maybe…but surely not. Please tell me you’re being sarcastic in this. I’m dumbfounded as to why you think your 5th time on the merry-go-round straight from the pits of hell is going to go better than the previous attempts. Sounds to me as if the Good Lord is telling you to quit being deceitful and gullible and is trying to shut that door to save you but you keep yanking the doorknob out of His hands. Lady, He’s trying to help you and you’re running all over Him! Stop for a second and truly THINK about what you’re saying, reread what you’ve put on here. And I’m willing to bet measuring the amount of “pink caddi’s” one acquires in this lifetime is the exact opposite of what He measures success by. There ain’t a single pink caddy in heaven, sweetie. Not one. He would never allow such a ridiculous and sinful symbol of idolatry that was obtained by lying, stealing, cheating, hurting others, and ruining your marriage/life in His home. So back it up a bit and realize what you’re doing.

            Or just tell us you’re playing an epic prank and this is all just sarcasm.

  6. Cindylu

    Faith, family career (Golden Rule). It all sounds nice until I realized, it was a huge lie. It’s actually Career, money, lying. The Golden rule doesn’t endorse lying, financial abuse or psychological abuse. MK’s misuse of scripture and spirituality are blatant. There is no free training. Nothing is free including the pink cars.

  7. NayMKWay

    The bio of Jabez is all of two verses in I Chronicles 4. Apparently, Jabez’s delivery was tough, because his mother literally named him “pain.” We can infer she meant it as a curse, based on how Jabez responded in his prayer. Here’s the entire text:

    ‘Now Jabez was more honorable than his brothers, and his mother called his name Jabez, saying, “Because I bore him in pain.” And Jabez called on the God of Israel saying, “Oh, that You would bless me indeed, and enlarge my territory, that Your hand would be with me, and that You would keep me from evil, that I may not cause pain!” So God granted him what he requested.’

    I’ve never read the book “The Prayer of Jabez,” but whatever its contents, it seems all anyone wants to focus on is the first three phrases: “bless me, enlarge my territory, let Your hand be with me.” Sounds like words to live by, but there was more to the prayer. “…keep me from evil, that I may not cause pain!”

    This site has given irrefutable evidence that the main product of Mary Kay is pain. Financial pain, emotional pain, relationship pain. If you want to live your life by Jabez’s example, keep away from the EVIL that is Mary Kay, lest you inflict pain on everyone in your life.

    And do not gloss over the very first sentence in the story: “Jabez was more honorable than his brothers.” It is not honorable to trick people into signing up, or to convince them to buy inventory they do not need. And it is not honorable to join yourself with a corporation that encourages that way of doing business. So don’t do it, if you expect God’s blessings.

  8. SuzyQ

    Just reread this and it all comes back. What a horrible time in my life! Alice Owens, you are in serious denial. Have you heard of “The Secret”? That was all the rage too and it pushed me over the edge. So I quit. And just as a there you go thing… the directors I have followed who were in my Bible study group have never made NSD and we are talking 10+ years ago. But, you do you. We will be here when the 5th time is over.

  9. JustSayinSweetie

    JustSayinSweetie 1 min ago
    There’s no way she’s being for real. I mean, ok maybe…but surely not. Please tell me you’re being sarcastic in this. I’m dumbfounded as to why you think your 5th time on the merry-go-round straight from the pits of hell is going to go better than the previous attempts. Sounds to me as if the Good Lord is telling you to quit being deceitful and gullible and is trying to shut that door to save you but you keep yanking the doorknob out of His hands. Lady, He’s trying to help you and you’re running all over Him! Stop for a second and truly THINK about what you’re saying, reread what you’ve put on here. And I’m willing to bet measuring the amount of “pink caddi’s” one acquires in this lifetime is the exact opposite of what He measures success by. There ain’t a single pink caddy in heaven, sweetie. Not one. He would never allow such a ridiculous and sinful symbol of idolatry that was obtained by lying, stealing, cheating, hurting others, and ruining your marriage/life in His home. So back it up a bit and realize what you’re doing.

    Or just tell us you’re playing an epic prank and this is all just sarcasm.

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