You Are a Conspiracy Theorist

I was the lucky recipient of the below email from a woman who won’t reveal her real name. She talks as if she was at NSD level, and yet she gets a lot of the lingo wrong.

Hi, Tracy. In the past years I have read over quite a few of your comments on that site you wrote against MK. And I would love to say this, whether you agree with me or not. That is what opinions are for.

These women that have been taking up for Mary kay, it is because they truly are doing well and are successful with Mary kay. just because you weren’t, and others haven’t been, doesn’t mean we are all brainwashed or lying.

I’m a 65 year old Grandmother who recently retired from Mary Kay, I worked for MK for 35 years and I loved it all the way up to retirement in January of 2020. I have 7 grandgirls who also work for MK. Out of the 7, Only 4 are at the top right now. The other 3 are full time Mom’s & married so they don’t have as much time to put into it as the other 4 do. MK helped me put my Son’s and Daughters through college and I was also able to afford so much more things that I have always wanted.

I was married for 45 years and My Husband died from Covid-19 on May 13th 2020. When Richard Rogers found out, He paid for my Husband’s funeral, as well as donating $25,000 to Me. When I asked him Why? He said “for being a loyal hard-working Employee for 35 years and for always being kind”.

I had over 4500 Women from all walks of life, working under Me. I even got the pleasure to meeting every one of them at a MK Retirement Party that MK threw for me. All lovely ladies aged from 18-50.

One of the ladies I helped to recruit was on SSI and was tired of a very low income and after 6 years of her talking to me (Me never forcing her to join) She seen my grandgirls join and the 4 becoming successful within a couple months and so, this young woman called me one day and asked if she could join, and I said we would love for her to. That was 3 years ago and She went from $720 a month and living in a travel trailer with no running water to now owning a beautiful 2 bedroom home in Dallas and bringing in over $8500 per month. I am beyond proud of her. Within the first 5 months after she joined, She got a Beautiful Pink Car! Now, She has a Even More Beautiful Pink Cadillac!

I could go on and on and on about all the success stories in my 35 years, but you my dear I believe are a conspiracy theorists, you say you want to help women, yet you call them brainwashed just because they are successful and you weren’t. The only success you have had is what, writing three books on fraud investigating? Which is wonderful for you, as women we should empower one another instead of bringing one another down and that is what you are doing. You believe you are trying to help women, but in reality you’re not. Instead you’re mocking them and calling them a liar and saying they are brainwashed. Shame On You.

I pray you find peace and try to quit bringing women down to your miserable level.

I have also written books on my success and failures. I have had quite a few failures with MK but, always got back on top! If you’re interested, let me know and I would love to send you a free signed copy.

I’m also a Retired research journalist. I have also wrote a book on that.

I have wrote a book on Multi-marketing levels. also let me know if you would love free copies of those.

Good-Luck. And Welcome to Almost 2021 where We Women aspire to inspire women!

I responded: If your story is true, I’d be able to find things about you and your MK involvement online. Sadly, there is nothing. Feel free to send me the pics of the party MK threw to you, one of your big commission checks, etc. Tell me about the retirement plan MK has for you?

She said:

It is all very true. I have a 401k retirement from MK. If you have a PO box I will proudly send you copies of my books. it is funny, you say you can’t find me, yet you do not know my name, so how can you find me? I’m guessing you tried by my email address? If you knew anything you would know that the name I’m using on my email address is not even my Name. It is a fictional character from one of my books that is waiting to be released spring of 2021! I do know one name I know you have heard of, because you’ve written junk about her. Kristin Sharpe. Lovely lady.. also Proud to call her My own blood. Beautiful, elegant and graceful.

Are you against Mary kay, because you weren’t pretty enough? Or maybe because you didn’t think that you were good enough and you didn’t have enough confidence?

Also it takes money to make money, any job in the world right now…literally. I knew Mary Kay Ash, she was such a beautiful and sweet lady, kind. and the fact that you would debunk or try to anyway her company even after death, is very sad and speaks volumes for your character. I think my next book will be about you and people like you. Thank you for the inspiration.

When I called her on the “not pretty enough” comment, and mentioned that her 401k would make her a corporate employee, yet I know she’s not in Texas…. I got the following response:

People are right about you, you take words and twist them. NOT once did I ever say you are not pretty enough. I simply asked if you felt like you were not pretty enough.. major difference, you would think you would know that being educated as you are. I also never said I was not in Texas, now did I? just because my family, and other blood relations are not in Texas doesn’t mean I’m not..

38 Comments

    1. Char

      “I’m also a Retired research journalist. I have also wrote a book on that. I have wrote a book on Multi-marketing levels. also let me know if you would love free copies of those.” —

      She has to be spinning us a yarn.

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      1. TRACY

        My best guess is that she’s a friend of Kristin Sharpe and is offended that we’d call out Kristin’s unethical tactics. She’s been around MK enough to know a little about it, but not enough to make her fanciful story believable. And of course, she is no author of any book(s) with that type of grammar. I’d speculate on her appearance, but that wouldn’t be very nice of me, would it?

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  1. BestDecision

    Her grammar is horrific, and she’s contradicting herself. 401K does NOT come to sales force members. No retirement or benefits because they’re Independent Contractors.

    Sorry, ma’am, but your alluding to Tracy, or any of us, not being “pretty enough” as a reason why we aren’t still in MK is grossly ignorant and appalling. I’ve seen some hags walking across that stage, but, most importantly, are the ugly hearts running rampant in MK. Quoting scripture to throw a snare around a God-loving customer, lying about net profits, lying to husbands, dropping kids off at daycare but bragging about what a good mother you are due to MK…all of it is disgustingly wrong.

    While MK people are still hoping for Cyber Monday orders and calculating end of month production, I’ll be enjoying the start of the Christmas season. No worries about car payments, chargebacks, or who won’t show Monday night on my Zoom unit meeting.

    Glad I’m gone!

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  2. Mountaineer95

    So far:

    “And I would love to say this, whether you agree with me or not.”

    Yeah, that’s not a sentence.

    I know that I cannot critique every attempted sentence in a Friday post (well, I COULD, but who has the time to read all of that?) so I’ll stop here. I think. 😉

    1. Mountaineer95

      I won’t edit this whole pile of nonsense, as it’s evident just how bad it is. One of my favorite parts:

      “I loved it all the way up to retirement”…so why did you stop loving it AFTER retirement? Maybe because there IS NO retirement with MK?

  3. Kristen

    I was an IBC for only six months or so but I was conned into going to seminar so maybe I have some cred here. I certainly don’t have the experience that most of the women on Pink Truth have, but this site has empowered me more than MK ever did. When I left, I was filled with shame that I never could talk about. I too had high hopes that I’d be rich, glamorous and successful. But I failed miserably. I didn’t know anyone else felt like me.

    This email is filled with suspicious statements.

    “Now, She has a Even More Beautiful Pink Cadillac!”

    This sounds like something a little kid would say, not to mention all the inappropriate use of capitalization. This whole set of emails is very interesting. A “published author” who doesn’t know to use the word “an” instead of “a”? She is clearly somebody who desperately wants to defend MK but obviously lying about her success and those around her.

    “I was also able to afford so much more things that I have always wanted.”
    This statement makes me guess that she is a new IBC, probably hopes she will be able to say this someday, maybe she’s in her early twenties?

    In any case, even if she can’t write, spell or use grammar appropriately, it’s theoretically possible that this is her real story. It doesn’t take writing skill, honesty or coherent thought to be successful in MK. It merely takes denial, the ability to memorize scripts, and a total abandonment of guilt for the theft and shaming of any woman you come into contact with just so you can make minimum wage.

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  4. Mountaineer95

    So…three of your “grandgirls” are not in MK because they “are full time Mom’s & married“ ? Why aren’t they making their “executive income in part time hours”?? That’s what you promised to hundreds of women…that they could and would make tons of money working few hours per week all the while devoting most of their time to their kids. So why will it supposedly work for so many other women but not for your own family?

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    1. Mountaineer95

      And this:

      “I had over 4500 Women from all walks of life, working under Me. I even got the pleasure to meeting every one of them at a MK Retirement Party that MK threw for me.”

      Are you seriously saying that over 4500 women attended your retirement party? And that you had enough time during this party to “meet every one of them”? Lady, do you even read what you’re typing?

      Explain to me how: 1) you had a party with over 4500 attendees, and 2) how you were able to meet EVERY SINGLE ONE of these 4500 attendees during this single party. This is OBVIOUSLY a lie. It’s not physically possible to “meet” every single woman out of your entire 4500 attendees in one party. So if you’re clearly exaggerating (and dare I say flat out lying) about this unimportant part of your “story”, what else are you lying about?

      Nobody should believe a single thing you’ve written here. How much more full of @#$& can someone be?

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  5. EyesWideShutNoMore

    Nothing makes me cringe more than “I seen.” All credibility goes out the window. Makes me wonder if this lady’s “books” are just emails she’s printed and put into a binder.

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    1. raisinberry

      So right. I cringe at all my typo’s and bad grammer…a fact I asked Madam Tracy to edit, to no avail. Over the years , you’ve all gotten raisin’s stream of consciousness…errors and all.
      But clearly that was truth…what we are asked to believe here, is that a “writer” wants to expose our falicy. Hmmm, sorry. We know too much.

  6. NayMKWay

    She wants to stay anonymous, but would love to send you free copies of signed books? I suppose she could use a pseudonym, if she knew how to spell “Jane Doe.”

    She wrote a book about multi-level marketing, yet doesn’t know that 1) it’s not called “multi marketing levels” or 2) that Mary Kay adamantly insists that they are not multi level, but “dual” marketing?

    She claims to have 3 granddaughters (sorry, “grandgirls”) who are married and full-time moms? That means she has at least three great-grandchildren, from three different women, at age 65? That’s mathematically possible, I suppose, but highly unlikely. This was more likely written by a poorly educated starry-eyed youngster who thinks 65 “is, like, really really old, right?” And how could she have been self-employed for 35 years and not know that the self-employed use an IRA or SEP, not a 401(k)?

    I think my favorite bit was the Random Inappropriate Capitalization, except she forgot to hit her overworked shift key when she wrote “Mary kay” once.

    Criminy, we do attract a certain type, don’t we?

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    1. Mountaineer95

      Great catch on the supposed grandkids’ ages and her supposed age of 65. Unless maybe she really is a grandmother that many times over and is just in full denial about her “actual” age.

  7. Destiny Angel

    I have also written books on my success and failures. I have had quite a few failures with MK but, always got back on top! If you’re interested, let me know and I would love to send you a free signed copy.

    I’m also a Retired research journalist. I have also wrote a book on that.

    I have wrote a book on Multi-marketing levels. also let me know if you would love free copies of those.

    If this lady has written books, I’m guessing it’s all vanity publishing.

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  8. Heather

    Dear Emailer,

    I call shenanigans on everything you typed. Every single word. From having a 401(k) to a retirement party with 4500 people to being a published author to Richard Rodger’s paying for your husband’s funeral AND giving you a big, fat check, it’s all crap, and you know it. Heck, I don’t even know whether or not to believe that your husband died from COVID this year since your tale is full of nothing but falsehoods and snake oil.

    Regarding your retirement party with 4500 people there – the math doesn’t add up one bit. There are 1,440 minutes in a day, meaning you would need 3.125 days STRAIGHT to spend ONE minute with each person. Again, I call shenanigans.

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      1. Heather

        Nurses have been the most trusted profession for the greater part of 30 years. The only year we did not rate #1 was in 2001 when firefighters/first responders ranked first. We were right behind them.

  9. raisinberry

    it is funny, you say you can’t find me, yet you do not know my name, so how can you find me? I’m guessing you tried by my email address? If you knew anything you would know that the name I’m using on my email address is not even my Name. It is a fictional character from one of my books that is waiting to be released spring of 2021! I do know one name I know you have heard of, because you’ve written junk about her. Kristin Sharpe. Lovely lady..

    I’m calling fraud. First off, Tracy, a Forensic Accountant, can find anybody. And she uses linguistics, and grammer and pieces comments together to structure a narative. No chance you are legit.

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    1. Heather

      Exactly. With enough information, anyone in forensics can track you down and find out who you are. A good friend of mine is a forensic computer analyst for the state police. She can find ANYTHING and is damn good at her job. Fake name attached to an email address? Oh yeah… she’ll be able to tell who you are, where you live, what size undies you wear, AND what your last Starbucks order was.

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  10. Misscapulet

    This might be the best critic yet! I giggled throughout. She is an author with no command of the English language and she had nearly 5000 people at her retirement party. That must have been some venue!!

  11. Kristen

    I wondered why all of these critics have the same arguments:

    1. You failed because you didn’t work hard enough!!!!
    2. You’re just negative, bitter and sad and want to drag women down!!!!
    3. Nobody forced you to do anything (covers all the unethical stuff they advise you to do)!!!!
    4. You don’t know what you’re talking about!!!!

    It’s because they were brainwashed to believe this through REPETITION.

    The brainwashed fight hard to hold on to what they’ve been programmed to believe. Psychological studies have shown that even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the brainwashed will hold on to their beliefs. It’s just too devastating to come to terms with the idea that everything they’ve worked towards is a lie (at best) and harms others (at worst).

    I actually feel sorry for these women because they are still trapped and fighting to hold onto a lie. I also think that this “blaming the victim” thing (attacking this site) is like blaming a rape victim for dressing too provocatively. It helps them feel safer, like if I don’t dress in a tight skirt, I won’t get raped. If I don’t think negatively and I’m not lazy like these women surely are, I won’t fail in Mary Kay like they did! It IS in my control!

    I don’t think I’m a victim in a negative sense, as in powerless, but I was a victim of fraud and manipulation in Mary Kay. No, nobody held a gun to my head, but the truth was withheld or distorted on purpose. Internet scammers don’t hold a gun to your head either but that doesn’t make it just okay because the victim could have said no. Wrong is wrong.

  12. Martha Hyatt

    I sold Mark Kay for 4 years but I saw the potential pitfalls each step of the way. I was pressured to order large amounts of product but refused to. I saw new consultants pressured to order $4,000 worth of cosmetics with no experiment in sales and no base of customers. I wanted to tell them to start out slowly so you are not discouraged and new products will come along but you will not be able to buy them because you have too much inventory already!!!
    I saw the pressuring to a certain amount just so you can get a “star” on your ladder. I kept reminding myself that I was in MK to make extra money and not to get a .50 cent star on a pin.
    I saw ladies get “ nervous stomachs” and “panic attacks” because they were trying to sell enough to keep their MK vehicle. They would end up ordering a huge amount of product just to keep their sales at a level of car ownership. Once I ask a SD if she could make a car payment with all the money she was spending in product to keep the MK car? She looked puzzled and I think it finally clicked with her that she was spinning on a hamster wheel. Is a pink car really worth going bankrupt and poor health??? I say forget the car and just sell the product and make extra money. I sold MK at the hospital where I worked. Obviously I had to keep it low key so as not to disrupt work. I made approx $250 PROFIT a month just from selling to co workers, family, church friends and neighbors. I never dreamed of quitting my job at the hospital and trying to qualify for a car. I saw the high pressured tactics to get ladies to put their whole life into MK and thankfully I did not fall into that. All in all i made about 2,500 dollars a year CLEAR PROFIT after all the expenses of samples, training trips and brochures. That was my purpose…..extra money on the side.
    I was pressured constantly to get recruits. I finally told my SD that I was not good at that portion of the business and I wanted to just stick to my sales. She said “Selling the product is ‘today’s money’ but ‘recruits’ are tomorrow’s money”. Clearly she wanted more recruits to pad her commission checks. I finally told her that is she did not like the profit she gets from my sales then I would find another director who would not constantly pressure me to recruit.
    After 4 years I simply grew tired of it but all in all I loved the products and the extra money was certainly nice.
    I could never be a SD because I would encourage people to start out small and don’t go into debt. THAT ATTITUDE WOULD NEVER GET YOU TO SD AND THAT IS FINE WITH ME

    1. BestDecision

      Today, lots of Directors are calculating how much they’ll order tonight to prevent a car payment. It’s endless. You described it perfectly—a hamster wheel! Never enough bookings, enough sales, enough recruits, big enough unit, enough offspring. Director cars (Premier Club and Cadillac) are maintained quarterly through Dec. 31, but Grand Achievers, which include Consultants who have earned that level, are maintained on monthly production.
      Today is a day many, many get stressed about.

      Funny, working in healthcare wasn’t as stressful, was it?

    2. Char

      Hi Martha, that’s a very nice post and thanks for sharing. Sorry in advance for my post. I genuinely don’t mean for this to be personal towards you. It’s a big picture post!

      1) You’re telling a story from your perspective. What folks need to understand is, with consultants like you, Mary Kay would probably be out of business. It’s a big mistake not to consider the company’s perspective. Your piddly resales didn’t do squat for them.

      The real business MKI doesn’t want consultants like you, as they are an MLM company. They make their main sales profits off of new recruits placing big orders. Upline makes commissions from recruits. Thus, it wasn’t about you Martha, and your actions were basically collateral damage and taking up oxygen. Mary Kay legally has to advertise that their consultants can resell, some do, but that’s not their preference. Case in point, “I was pressured constantly to get recruits.”

      2) You stated, “I made approx $250 PROFIT a month just from selling to co workers, family, church friends and neighbors.”

      You profited off of people closest to you??? And, you sold to them at double price when they could’ve easily bought it for less? With my friends and family, I’m always directing them to the best deal and highest quality product I can find for them. It just doesn’t seem right ripping friends off for my own profit.

      Point is, I’d be embarrassed to say I profited off of friends, family, etc., regardless of the amount. Imagine me saying, “Remember that new church member who came in as an abused woman needing some comfort and shelter? Well, *I* sold her some Mary Kay and *I* made $100 profit. Yay me.”

      This is really directed at the whole MLM system, not you. Think about it. MLM companies want you to prey on the people closest to you. It’s disgusting. And, they don’t even really want you to resell to them. Your friends and family are only a potential pool of recruits to them.

      * And gosh, I hope you didn’t attempt to rip-off sick patients in the hospital where you worked. You didn’t say that, so I’m hoping that’s not the case.

      I’m sorry again for being so frank and using your post as an example. I just feel that sometimes “profit” isn’t always a good thing. After all, drug dealers profit too.

      The MLM “industry” has perfected their scam so well, that I think some don’t even think of it the way I described above. It never crosses their mind because of the elaborate presentation they get from the company. They make it all sound so innocent and empowering.

      1. Char

        I want to add someone else sharing the sentiment about preying on friends and family from this Reddit post today:

        “My ex director (I quit MK) would always tell us that she would recruit and book appointments at her kids sports games and recitals. Has this ever happened to you? I can’t imagine how awkward that is and frustrating too. I’d be so annoyed if I was trying to watch a child’s sport and someone was trying to recruit me to their MLM. “

        Isn’t it fascinating how scams can twist something and make it sound like an attractive advantage? “Think of all the people you know you can sell to? Do you have a big family, large church congregation, lots of friends? Do your kids play ball? What about those families? You can approach them. I’m sure they’ll want to support your “business””.

        Ummm, no. You are using them and your relationship to try to make a buck off of them – and from an MLM scam no less. It’s not even a legitimate business for the affiliate. It’s all just so wrong! People don’t want to be bugged at games, church, in the hospital, at family reunions, recitals, or while shopping at Target!

  13. Vickie

    Thank you!!!! I’m on that hamster wheel!! I’m retired and 66 years old. I only have 1 customer who orders her products from me every 3 months. I also order for myself as well. I start to sweat when I see my T status and panic. I don’t need this stress at my age. I love the MK products and have used MK products since I was 25 years old. I worked at a major corporate insurance company and I couldn’t promote my business as I could have lost my job. Therefore, I didn’t have a large client list. I’m tired of this worrying, sleepless nights, and panicking!!!

    1. nomoremlm4me

      Vickie, if you really must use MK products, you can get them on Craigs List or Ebay just as cheaply (or even less) as you can at your consultant price. No worries, no stress. Let your consultant status go.

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