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Robert FitzPatrick of Pyramid Scheme Alert has conducted extensive research on multi-level marketing companies (MLMs). The research can be difficult with companies like Mary Kay, which are privately owned and therefore don’t release hardly any information about the dismal earnings of the sales force. (Who would want to admit the financial truth unless forced to? And don'tcha think that if consultants were doing so well in Mary Kay across the board, that the company would be out there touting these statistics left and right?)

On the other hand, certain companies using MLM models that are similar to Mary Kay’s way of doing business, do release public information about their representatives. Robert studied figures for Amway (Quixtar), Nuskin, Nikken, Melaleuca, Reliv, Arbonne, Free Life International and Cyberwize.com.

From this research, Robert compiled figures on a “per 10,000 representatives” basis for each company, in order to allow comparisons to be made between the companies. This research has revealed that 99% of sales representatives in these MLM companies suffer significant financial losses. The research further revealed that on average, no net income is earned by MLM distributors from door-to-door retail sales (direct selling of products).

The research was complicated ever so slightly by the fact that the MLMs generally report figures for only active participants. Naturally, this excludes all participants from throughout the year who may have also failed. Robert determined that if all participants over a five-year period were to be included in the calculations of earnings, the failure rates would be even more devastating.

The success stories in MLM systems lie within a very small group of people, positioned year-after-year on the type of the pyramid. Those people with high earnings are included in a company’s figures each year, while “failures” from years past aren’t reflected in the current year’s statistics.

Here are some of Robert’s general comments on MLM, based upon his years of research into multi-level marketing and direct sales companies:

  • Another element of maintaining the MLM myth of legitimacy and a viable income opportunity is based on the claim that, regardless how it operates, MLM is still “legal.” As a legal enterprise, “success” in the business is then said to be the result of “hard work” and “following the system” recommended by the organizers – as would occur in legal businesses. Failure rates and financial losses among those recruited into MLM – regardless of their scale – are then treated as an outcome of normal business risks and markets forces or the fault of the individuals who lose.
  • The big numbers, which are cited by the scheme’s promoter as providing “extraordinary income potential,” are based on overrides from the deepest level of the “downline.” Only a tiny few can ever recruit to this level. This is mathematically predetermined from the start by the MLM structure and pay plan. The pay plan itself dooms the vast majority to financial losses, not factors of “hard work” or “following the plan.”
  • The trick of the scheme is to cover up this reality and to convince each and every enrollee that he/she can succeed by building this large and deep downline. Recruits are told that the program is a formula for wealth that “anyone can do.”
  • Though virtually none of the “sales representatives” ever earns a profit or has any “customers,” a pyramid scheme can be made to appear as a “sales company.” This is because each new recruit makes a purchase of products and the commissions are all based on the purchases of products by other recruits. There may be virtually no end-users, just a long chain of “distributors.”
  • Such a scheme can never stop recruiting. It can never stabilize since it has no true customer base. For as long as the scheme operates and expands, the opportunity for recruiting declines, thereby further reducing the opportunity for income. Profit in such a scheme is not true profit but only a transfer of money from the latest recruits to the earlier ones.
  • Yet, the laundering of money through product purchases can camouflage the entire operation as a “sales company” based on “products” – not fees. The product sales in a recruitment scheme are induced by the false promises of income tied to ongoing inventory purchases. No purchase may be required to join the scheme, but monthly purchases are required to “qualify” for the unlimited income” opportunity.
  • Even as millions of consumers are solicited into MLM and then quit after losing money, most do not understand why they lost. They are shown the luxurious lifestyles of the top promoters and are told that “anyone can do it.” The promoters convince them that they personally “failed” and that it was “their own fault.” Most have no idea of the sheer scale of people joining, losing and then quitting. They are led to believe that they are unusual in their “failure.” Consequently, they not only do not complain to the government authorities but they do not even warn friends or relatives to stay out of MLM. Shame and disappointment are covered up with silence. The recruitment program continues largely unabated.
  • As has been previously illustrated, the massive failure rates among those who invest in MLMs have almost nothing to do with the individual recruit. These multi-billion-dollar consumer losses are due to the pyramid business model. Retailing is unfeasible and the recruitment-based income plan is designed so that most will lose. It cannot be otherwise. For a few to win, basic mathematics requires all others to lose. “Anyone” cannot do it.

And here are some of the numbers that come out of Patrick’s research in this study:

  • A statistical review of twenty-one (21) MLM companies representing 5 million sales people and “projected” retail sales of $10 billion reveals that even if retail sales are assumed to be occurring, the average MLM sales person is not earning a net profit from retail sales.
  • Yet, even using the MLM industry’s own restrictive method of accounting, analysis of available data reveals that more than 99% of all “active” consumers who invest money and time in multilevel marketing never earn a profit. Some lose hundreds, others thousands of dollars.
  • MLM companies sought to make the figures appear more favorable by limiting the calculations only to the sales representatives who stay “active” for a year, or only counting those that are active during one selected month or several months.
  • The income numbers are not “profits.” The costs of doing business (buying inventory, car expenses, phone charges, purchase of marketing materials, training seminars, etc.) are not deducted, nor are taxes. Actual net income, where any exists, would be much lower than the numbers presented.
  • A review of the payouts of six of the larger and best-known multi-level marketing companies and one other more recently formed MLM reveals that more than 99% of all distributors do not earn a profit from company rebates [commissions].
  • The actual retail sales levels of the vast majority of MLMs is exemplified by Amway/Quixtar, the oldest and largest of all multi-level marketing companies. Amway was compelled by government order to provide its retail sales data. It disclosed that less than 20% of its products are purchased by anyone other than its own sales representatives.

So there you have it. Almost none of the participants in MLMs are making a profit from product sales. Almost none of the participants in MLMs are making a profit from commissions. If you read the actual report, you may be sickened at the grossly huge amounts of income paid to a teeny-tiny fraction of one percent at the top of the pyramid. It’s sick. Really.

Especially when you again consider that those at the top aren’t really making profits, they are just being paid money by the lower levels of the pyramid. Those lower level people are paying their money for an opportunity to potentially be at the top some day. Some may say they’re paying money in return for products that they could/should sell at a profit, however the fact is that almost no one turns a profit from product sales. So they are in essence just paying money to the pyramid-toppers.

Probably the most common argument I hear against these facts is “Mary Kay is different”. NEWSFLASH! Mary Kay is not different from the companies in the study. Mary Kay bases its business on the exact same chain of endless recruitment, minimal retail sales, and loading new recruits with inventory packages.

MLM is MLM is MLM… You can dress it up and give things different names, but it’s all the same scam. And that, my folks, is why nearly everyone who particpates in Mary Kay loses money. Anyone who can’t see Mary Kay written all over the above research has her eyes closed.

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Pax   |2009-08-24 07:54:07
avatar Dear lurkers, if you just stop a minute and insert the name Mary Kay in wherever you see the word MLM does any of that make sense.

Mary Kay is no different than any of the companies studied. The only difference is that MK is privately owned and is not compelled to disclose this information. If they did, guess what? The information would be the same.

Get out while you can. Save yourself the heartache of losing money your family may need to stay afloat.
raisinberry   |2009-08-24 08:23:23
avatar This also leaves you with only one more conclusion. The women who were your Director and National, along with the extended influence of associated downline, have only 2 places to stand in this. They either know that they are making money off a duped and deceived downline, or they are ridiculously stupid and naive and living in denial.

Would either one represent to you, a worthy mentor to follow?
Rachel   |2009-08-24 10:29:25
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Amway was compelled by government order to provide its retail sales data. It disclosed that less than 20% of its products are purchased by anyone other than its own sales representatives.


Of course, there's no way we can find the real numbers here for Mary Kay. But it's been around for long enough that you have to expect the profile to look similar. The market is thoroughly saturated, and the eBay and CraigsList entries tell the story.
optimisticconsultant  - Why so much negativity?   |2009-08-24 11:49:32
Nobody forced you to spend money in Mary Kay..Believe it or not you did! And you only have yourselves to blame! I have been lurking for quite some time now and am appalled at all the whining...Move on with your lives!
dupedbypinkfriend   |2009-08-24 11:54:44
avatar Optimistic, why so much optimism? You have been presented with facts, by people with years and years of experience in MK, who are not benefiting from your orders. Yet, you choose to believe those who make money from your orders, while pretending it is all about you.

My bet is that you have not been in Mary Kay for very long, and you'll be singing the blues in time. We'll be here for you then!
optimisticconsultant   |2009-08-24 12:08:41
I highly doubt it! If it didn't work out for me I would not come to a website to complain about it!
freeandempowered   |2009-08-24 12:10:57
optmistic consultant...

First, I'd like to say welcome. As you were first a lurker, and now a poster, it shows that while you may not understand why we continue to "whine", something compels you to keep coming back to see what we are "whining" about.

Keep lurking. Keep reading. And keep posting. As with many of us, you'll slowly begin to understand why we "whine" and then...when you least expect it, you'll find yourself a "whiner" too. And we'll welcome you with open arms.
didpinkawhileago   |2009-08-24 12:59:34
Hey wait, OC- I know you from other MK truth boards and you say the EXACT same thing at all places! If you are doing so well, why the need to post everywhere?? You could be out warm chattering and doing facials etc. Stop posting and get back on that hamster wheel you are so proud of!
raisinberry   |2009-08-24 13:12:37
avatar We're not whining...we're WARNING.
Rachel   |2009-08-24 13:39:23
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Nobody forced you to spend money in Mary Kay.

Right. Nobody forced us. They set themselves up as experts, and advised us to spend money. They told us it was the only way to be successful, and that we could trust their advice because when we make money, they make money.

We are here to tell others that it's not true. When we spend money, they make money. And most of them aren't as successful as they look, and their advice is not very knowledgable.

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And you only have yourselves to blame!

Are you seriously suggesting that people who lied to us have no blame for the actions we took based on their lies? 

Please try to learn a bit about the world before you disrespect us. People are wired to take advice from those who know more than us. Our SDs are set up to look like they know more than us, but also set up to give us bad advice. The company gives us misleading information, and holds back information that could be useful to help us make good decisions.
icanbecomesane   |2009-08-24 13:44:45
avatar Hey Optimistic Consultant,

See you when the fog clears.
pinkpunch   |2009-08-24 14:46:41
avatar OC wrote:
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Nobody forced you to spend money in Mary Kay..Believe it or not you did!


Ummm, we were "also" told to hang in there and be optimistic.  Sound familiar, to you?  It must b/c that's your screen name. But as you climb with your so-called business "Dream" you may not want to be soooo optimistic when you do hit that slippery slope...and you will hit it.  The optimisim that you are being subjected to is false b/c you are being lied to. The women on here were optimistic with their MK, that's how they ended up here to begin with.   Just b/c we're are not optimistic about MK does not mean that we lead pessimitic lives. It means that we've been there, done that, lived it, learned from it and moved on to become stronger, smarter women that help others and prevent the same things from happening to others. I do not and will not expect you to comprehend what I've just said b/c it's obvious that your head is...well...up the ash.   You'll learn soon enough that it wasn't a great place to be.  

raisinberry wrote:
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We're not whining...we're WARNING.


Exactly!
TRACY   |2009-08-24 14:51:12
avatar Nobody FORCED the MK recruiters to lie about "executive income" and "50% profit on each item you sell" and "full-time earnings for part-time hours"....
Out of Pink   |2009-08-24 15:01:33
Dear OC,

Your post says a lot about you.

1. you don't take MK serious - you don't have any real goals.
2. you don't mind being lied to from those above you.
3. you have not given much of yourself (time, talents, energy, money) working as a consultant.
4. you have not lost anything valuable that means something to you because you sacrificed your time to devote everything to building a business.
5. you have not had a dream snatched away from you because it was never real in the first place.
6. you have not looked back and seen what a fool you have made of yourself in front of your family , neighbors, and friends and all those ladies you stalked.
7. you have not lost a dear friend when you realized that she was only using you.

The women here at PT did have goals and climbed up the success ladder to high levels. I found this website a few years ago when it was under another name while I was still in love with my new job as a consultant. I pretty much had your thoughts…whiners!

A few years passed and I found myself again at this website and saw time and time gain stories and experiences just like mine. I am not alone.

Stay a consultant!! Get your experience!! Give yourself completely to your job!! Work for free and tell all your friends how much money you are making. In a few years when you are exhausted and confused as to how can THEY make money and I don’t seem to be…then come back and read some more and you will begin to see those like yourself. If you care about people – you will try to make a difference to help someone else not make the same mistakes.
Angelwoman   |2009-08-24 16:19:16
Optimistic consultant is probably Richard Rogers (Mary Kay's son) who is laughing his booty off to the bank with the money; he sucks up off the sweat of housewives. If it is not him, it is a bloodsucking NSD or SD, who hobby is bossing IBC's around for their commission profit and job title and the "coveted" pink caddy. LOL
Black Nova   |2009-08-24 16:22:18
avatar What a great article. Patrick sure knows his stuff.

Keep up the warnings, PTers! We're making a difference.
PUNKEDBYPINK   |2009-08-24 17:56:54
avatar Dear OC,
We consider this site a public service to women (and men) so that they don't make the same mistakes we did. There are lots of public service organizations out there that want to spare others the pain ofmwhat they went thru ie MADD,beacuse someone lost a loved one to a drunk driver. What do you tell her. Get over it? Amber alerts to better the system of locating missing children. What do you tell them? You're child was kidnapped and murdered. Get over it and move on? I think not, OC. We are here to prevent a different kind of loss and believe me, if we could pass a law, WE WOULD!! These losses have destroyed marriages, friendships, families and finances. We will not get over it and we ARE NOT going away, so get over it!
pinkflew   |2009-08-24 19:40:27
This article is SOOOOOO true.  My brother in law for the last 31 years has tried to find "the" company that was all it said it was. He has been in every MLM company ever presented to him. He has lost tens of thousands of dollars.  At one point he was in big trouble with the IRS and had to pay lots and lots of money, fines and penalties because his upline gave him horrible advice about putting his  earnigns in a bank account that was not legit. He totally believed them. Now he is nearly 70 with terminal cancer, nothing to show for  all those years except debt and an office full of manuals, books, tapes you name it from every MLM company imaginable. I cleaned that office the other day and thought how very sad. He was so sure somewhere out there was the company who really did do it right. It got to the place that nobody wanted to see him coming - he was just approaching you with the latest MLM scam he was in. He sometimes made a little money and that only mnade it worse. Spurred him on. When that comapny proved to be terribel he searched for  another. Didnt' have to search far - seemed someone always knew of the next company and "recruited" him. Now HE has no retirement, for years had no health insurance then had a major heart attack right before he got on Medicare so had massive  medical bills to pay off. My husband and I politely litened to every single pitch and watched every single company he got in prove to be exactly the same story. And sadly I didn't realize Mary Kay was the same thing. I have been out for several years and STILL paying off debts. I am down to about $10 thousand left to pay off. Now that I am away from it, the other day when I cleaned his office I thought wow. Mary Kay is just up there on the shelf with all the others - Amway, Shaklee, Melaluca, Reliv, Nuskin, LD Telephone cards, you name it.  (And by the way all those  health herbs and vitamins did him a lot of good, huh, since he is dying of cancer....)  Each company had the same basic pitch, same materials, same "training" just plug in the company name.  How could I think Mary Kay was any different? Run run away from it all. Have a real JOB. Have a real RETIREMENT fund. Have something to be proud of when you look back on your life that you genuinely served others and not years of wasted effort with nothing to show for it but debt. If  my Brother in law had invested  all the money he spent in these companies in just a plain ol savings accoiunt I doubt he would hve any debt.  Now I am 47 and have very little in retirement and still paying off debt. I saw the warning signs but turned a deaf ear and blind eye. So hard to admit you have been duped. Lurkers, save yourselves. Save yourselves before it is too late. No we are not whiners - we are WINNERS for waking up. And we want to reach out and save others.
ifeelfree   |2009-08-24 20:19:10
avatar Now come on OC. Nobody forced you to come here and read at Pinktruth..Believe it or not you did! And you only have yourself to blame! I have been here at Pinktruth for quite some time now and am appalled at your whining...Move on with your life!

Hey, it works both ways OC.
raisinberry   |2009-08-24 20:54:31
avatar pinkflew, you didn't know because Mk breaks its corporate neck to try and convince those who are easily persuaded that it is a "dual marketing" company...as if that means anything at all. It is all an elaborate ruse. They think that by confidently declaring the words "dual marketing" that everyone will say,"Why yes, of course." One of the first things I did as a new recruit was tell anyone I knew that Oh no, Mary kay is NOT a "pyramid scheme"..it is not one of those "multi-levels". Just as I was taught, I said no it's a dual marketing company because Money comes in from two areas.

What a nitwit. I guess we all wanted to BEE-lieve.
amentopinktruth  - Am out of mk yea!!   |2009-08-24 20:55:13
Hello Every, i finally made that phone call.And now am out of mk and right after i hang up my sd called me.Am so happy i got out before i place another order.Thank god for this website.This is for oc she needs to get a life and wake up from the pink fog. 
dupedbypinkfriend   |2009-08-25 07:10:21
avatar Pinkflew, thank you for posting yours and your BIL's stories. What a testament to avoid MLMs like the plague.

Overabundant optimism combined with denial will send you to some pretty dismal places. Are you listening, OC?
pinkflew   |2009-08-25 07:38:17
You know, another thing I didn't make clear in my post is that my BIL gets VERY LITTLE in his social security check nor does his wife. He didn't put a lot in over the years. You may not believe it will be around when you retire but I have a friend who had something awful happen to her and had to go on SS disability. Thank goodness she had been a nurse for years with a good income so gets a pretty good check. IF she had quit her JOB and done MK where would she be right now. You never know what can happen.
raisinberry   |2009-08-25 09:52:11
avatar pinkflew, you are touching on one of the things us older MK casualty's really are warning about. Not only do you make pin money even if you are good at it---not only do the expenses eat your profits, not only are you manipulated into over ordering-not only are you baited to be a "speed of the leader" roll model, not only are you peer pressured into attending everything which costs big $$$, not only does your debt and compounding interest skyrocket, you ALSO have been distracted from saving, investing and adding to social security...because you are SO HAPPY FOR THE TAX DEDUCTIONS of a home based business that is losing money! AND, someday you will be a NATIONAL and make the financial RUIN you are living in, all better! Yipee!

Don't for ONE minute think that Mary Kay is a "business". It is nothing of the kind. It is a gang of "kept in the dark" pollyanna's, unable to confront reality, not allowed to ask even minimally negative sounding questions, or be forced to hold a rubber chicken (be publicly humiliated) being led by the most narcisistic and limited pseudo-businesswomen pretenders.

They simply isn't any way to defend Mary Kay Cosmetics, on any level for any reason. They KNOW whats going on and they PRETEND it usn't, using the more gullible among their Sales Force to sell it to the unsuspecting.

It is just so hard to believe they could orchestrate this much fraud, on this scale, with so many players...but they have had 48 years to perfect it.
The Scribbler   |2009-08-25 10:12:19
avatar Hello, OC! Please ponder this with me; and don't worry, I'm not going to make you sign anything, although I'll sure twist your arm to get you to listen!

In the Air Force, I supervised a troop whose wife gave birth to her baby at the civilian hospital downtown. Generally, military families use military hospitals, however, in this case, the military hospital had screwed up the last birth this couple had and lost the child. The couple opted to go with the civilian hospital for their next child, which was born healthy, well, and (of course) cute.

Question:  Was this couple negative for telling others, "The military hospital screwed up and I'm not giving them the opportunity to do it again; that's why we're having this child downtown." Should they have just sucked things up and said, "You know, the military hospital isn't so bad. It was just one bad apple doctor -why sure I'd recommend that you have your high-risk multiple pregnancy there! No need to be negative, right? Maybe it was our fault; yes, that's it!  We must not have worked our birth hard enough or made God our birthing partner!"

By sharing their experience with others, this couple was warning them of what they had gone through, in the hopes that other couples would take the information they gave and use it in their own personal choices.

So it is with Pink Truth. You can do whatever you like, OC, but the information is here to help women like you make better choices. If you've been lurking a while as you say, you will have discovered that it's not just personal accounts being told here.  There's a great deal of quotes - straight from MK leaders and their training documents - listed here.

For example, is it negative for me to tell women that NSD Stacy James teaches her followers to only explain the top three levels of inventory in interviews? (It's true, BTW.) Wouldn't you agree that only explaining the 3600, 3000, and 2400 levels in an interview is "forcing someone to spend money?" And knowing this, would you call NSD Stacy James a "bad apple" for doing this?

If you're as smart as I think you are, you'll take a deeper look at what your leaders are teaching you.

And if you won't, well...

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It's gotta be hard to breathe underneath all that pink sand, to say nothing of the brain damage that can result from a prolonged lack of oxygen.
ttp   |2009-08-25 13:59:23
avatar This article highlights what we are trying to warn people about. The MLM business model is flawed! It just cannot sustain itself. Is financial ruin not enough of a kick in the rump?

Pinkflew, your story is a wake up call to anyone reading it. Your BIL spent 31 years of his life chasing a dream, all for NOTHING!

It is so frustrating to see the "Optimistic Consultants" of the world come on here and give us the "I think they can do it better, it won't happen to them, you didn't work your business" spin. Do you think we just sit around tapping our pencils against the desk making up stories?

SERIOUSLY, IT WON'T HAPPEN! You're no smarter than any of us. You will not beat the system. Thousand and thousands have tried before you.

It's a flawed business model, it's a flawed business model, it's a flawed business model.

And PT is here when you're ready.
icanbecomesane   |2009-08-25 14:08:26
avatar Hello Pinkflew,

I am so sorry for your heartache.
Thank you for sharing your story. It will connect with someone reading today and they will begin their journey out of MK.

You just made a positive difference in someone's life.
saucylady   |2009-08-26 23:07:11
I've spent 12 years in MK, 5 of them as a sales director, I'd spent 5 years in Amway years ago, I was in Melaleuca, Univera, etc. It is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH that MOST PEOPLE (probably 99%) don't make money. People can deny it all they want, but give it time, and you will either lose or not make $$ in ANY mlm. And don't fall for the lie when a company says they "aren't mlm" like MK does. Any, I repeat any business that relies on sales of products AND recruiting is basically a mlm (multilevel marketing) business. STAY AWAY FROM THEM ALL! Please.
recoveringmkaddict   |2009-08-30 18:34:19
avatar I have been in for 12 years and each and every tax return showed a loss, and I made anywhere between $20-60K during those years. The higher up you go, the more your expenses are. I thought it was OK to show a loss and no tax accountant working with me ever spoke up.

Oh...and my debt was $48K and is down to $32K. I will be working without a paycheck for the next few years. Plus I have a pittance saved for retirement. Thank goodness for my husband's dedication to a REAL JOB all these years. I'm humiliated that I didn't do the same. I believed the women around me who are super-pros as keeping up appearances.
MindingMyPzNQz   |2009-09-10 01:03:11
avatar I do not work for MK, but two other MLM companies. Stampin' Up! as a hobbyist, and now Jockey Person to Person. I have been involved in MLMs for many years, and always started out with a bang. None of the companies I have 'worked for' have ever recommended that I carry a lot of stock.

With S/U! I HAVE lots of my own supplies for my own use as well as home parties and stuff, but never bought anything that I didn't want to use myself. "Do you have this set?" someone would ask. "No. But the catalogue shows the true size right here." I would reply. My up-line had it all... but SOLD it all. If she used it, they bought it. Not me. I did not have it on hand just so the client could touch it. I'm really just in it for my discount! *L*

When I started JP2P, I didn't want to run into the same thing as my previous home 'clothing' party (UndercoverWear) where when it petered out to NIL bookings, I was left with a TON of line samples that I couldn't wear, use or give away. I decided to play it smart this time. Other than my starter kit, all the samples I have ordered are in my size. "Do you have this in a small?" someone will ask. "No. But they have an excellent return policy if the one you order doesn't fit." I reply. So far so good.

To do this type of job you HAVE to be assertive (pushy) to keep the bookings going... I am not 'assertive' so I know the ride will not last long. I do love the clothes, and so far (since May) the people/company have been very nice and supportive.

I didn't go in with blinders on, though. Bottom line: It's an MLM.

If you are going to do it/stick with it... Do it smart. Nobody minds waiting a week or two for their purchases. ...and don't get fooled into having a sample of EVERYTHING... That's what catalogues are for.
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