Excellent Scrib
I hated all the "suggestions" of making every trek outside my home to be a business opportunity - the grocery store, the mall, the "doctor's office" even, geesh - I'm dying here, cough, cough, would you be interested in a facial or attending a class to be a model, cough, cough, wheeze....
And that pesky trick of having the MK button upside down, so that someone would actually come up to me and turn my MK pin the right way - that was supposed to be a real conversation starter. The first time I attempted that and the person began to reach for my pin, I must have jumped back about 10 feet. I don't like peole in my personal space and I certainly don't like to get in theirs. That trick was never pulled again - in fact I stopped wearing that stupid pin unless I was attending an MK meeting or event. Just felt slimy to me.
These three things you suggest are actually very nice, low pressure to no pressure approaches.
I'm certainly never wanting to ever give it a try again, but maybe this will provide some business for those who are still hanging in with the company. Certainly will bring a breath of fresh air to the women who have been used to being "stalked" by the pink kaybots.
I don’t normally do articles covering the selling aspects of Mary Kay, but from time to time, if I see selling guidance that makes me go, “Wowsers, that’s a pretty non-stalky idea!” I think it’s worth a mention to our active IBCs and directors. Training in Mary Kay sees more pass-around than a kindergarten game of hot potato, so what’s one more source, right?
Today I’ll treat you to three examples of booking techniques I think need to get excommunicated, and three examples I felt were reasonable and even pleasant (meaning they won’t land you in the local police blotter under “Level Three Personal Space Offenders.”) So without further ado, I present to you the Terrible Three:
Take a catalog or sale flyer to every birthday party. But why should you take catalogs to birthday parties when you can delegate that hopefully-income-producing activity to your kids? “Before [my daughter] Sidney goes to a slumber party, I say, "Here, take the (eye color) and the fragrance and spray it on everything. Then take orders.” (NSD Kathy Helou, “Mary Kay Seeks more Youthful Look,” Cincinnati Enquirer, 16 Sep 01.) Isn’t it inspiring to know that Mary Kay’s leaders know how to draw the line between work and play and are passing that work ethic down to their children? I think most of us can agree that parties are meant for cutting loose and enjoying the company of others, not for recruit-and-star-order trolling. I’ve seen MLM diehards attempt to hawk their wares and/or opportunities at friendly festivities and all I could think was, “Why can’t you just enjoy some cake and conversation, as opposed to prattling on about how you’ve got more time to devote to your business now that little Logan is in daycare?” I’ve gotta admit, the little sprout does seem happier; kid’s probably thrilled to hear a woman say his name without the suffix, “Mommy’s on the phone working her business; go watch Dinosaur Train” attached to it.
Host a show before or during a PTA meeting. You’re treading into daaangerous territory with this one, because 1. The parents are already cheesed that they’re missing Hell’s Kitchen reruns and 2. PTA meetings are about as thrilling as watching Ben Stein work a Rubik’s Cube. Pink logic suggests one solution: extend things a few hours by hosting a beauty show right in the middle of the meeting! Husbands will undoubtedly be present, giving you the opportunity to shape your character by facing a whole pack of the brutes armed with only a DISC chart and a deck of “Damn right your wife’s going to say “yes” tonight” one-liners.
I think that happened once or twice on Fear Factor; this one Mary Kay lady got up in front of a bunch of husbands and said, “If you don’t support your wife’s Mary Kay business, she might as well consider herself a single mother!” I won’t spoil the episode’s ending for you, but I will say that ice packs were involved. Remember, if you get a black eye, it only means they don’t have enough information!
Offer your business card with samples everywhere you go: home, office, picnics, parties, play-grounds, etc. I realize that bookings have to come from somewhere, however, I think it’s inappropriate to get them from venues where the last thing on someone’s mind is “Have you ever considered doing what I do?” If you’re with your family at the playground, I don’t think it’s fair to your husband and children for you to slip into the shadows and play Mary Kay cougar to the playground’s highly-recruitable deer population. Oh sure, your NSD might bark, “You must always be thinking about recruiting!” but you need to bark “Family second, career THIRD” right back at her. Of course she’s going to howl like the Wolfman, sister – her commissions are directly affected by your business choices. Let her howl. Halloween’s almost here and the practice will do her good.
Now that you have an idea of what Mary Kay business tactics to avoid, have a peek at these three terrific tactics, now with 100% less manipulation and little pink lies!
Treat hostesses to a special "Hostess Appreciation Tea." A thoughtful touch if you brew up a couple different pots of tea, offer platefuls of petit fours and little lemony tea cakes, fire up the “Bistro in Paris” CD, and offering a platter of warm moist towelettes for guests to freshen their fingers with. That’s it. No selling previews, no mini-shows, and most of all, no recruiting. So help me, as a potential recruit, if you turn this “Tea” into a pitch for the Dream, you might as well throw your soul in that box over there by the door. No, the other one, silly - the one with the pitchfork-shaped tag that says, “Merry Christmas, Beezelbub” on it.
Include a business card or flyer with your bill payments. Because it’s a simple way to advertise your business without Mary Kay Corporate’s centurions setting fire to your thatched roof cottage! Don’t forget to send a business card with the credit card payments! Some MK leaders teach their troops to send Visa the bare minimum each month, so just think of it as layering whoever’s opening the envelope on the other end. For the next three-to-five years. And that’s only if you don’t charge anything else on it during that time. Paging Dr. Ramsey…David Ramsey, please report to the end of the month. Thank you.
Put an "Ask me about Mary Kay" button on your purse or coat. This is a nice, non-intrusive way to attract business. If people want to know about Mary Kay, they will ask, right? And please don’t put the darned button on upside down in the hopes that someone will point it out so you can start the Half-Truth Train a’ chugga chuggin’ down the track! (I just want your opinion, I only want to share information with you, and I just need the practice…all aboooard!)
Keep it simple, sister: If someone ends up asking you about Mary Kay, all you have to do is present the truth of the Mary Kay opportunity in its entirety. Only if you’re doing that can you claim that you are presenting all the facts needed for her to make an educated decision. If you can’t (or won’t) give your prospect that courtesy, you’re a liar, plain and simple. Tell her what you’re pulling down each year after taxes and all those pesky expenses. Tell her about chargebacks, car co-pays, inventory ins-and-outs, Corporate's numerous stipulations on "your" business, and why the phrase, “There are no quotas in Mary Kay” is grossly incorrect. Sure, it’s a lot tougher to present the whole truth because it means you might lose a potential recruit (and that chunky star order that’ll push you over the production bar), but didn’t Mary Kay Ash once say, “Honesty is the cornerstone to all success?”
This week, make the choice to pursue honesty – not just in your booking practices, but in all that you do.
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03 Nov 2009 19:12 | stinkinpinkthinkin
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03 Nov 2009 23:53 | raisinberry
Regarding Sydney taking samples to PJ parties...talk about grooming an "offspring".
She was a one month wonder...as I recall...who of course had a unit near crash state, until her mom NSD "placed" members in her Unit from other exiting Directors. That's one of those "secret" options that NSD's have...placing personel whereever they want. Hear tell, far too many NSD daughters have had their SUCCESS!!!!! manufactured by that secret helping hand. And of course, Downline Directors have virtually no idea that they are competing against advantaged offspring.
Gee I wonder what it does to their daughters perception of "truth"..and "fairness"...and "integrity"? No time like the present to "train in" an acceptable level of fraud. Find a way or make a way!
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04 Nov 2009 00:07 | raw joy
About a month after I recruited, my husband and I were going to a Cardinals baseball game, which is one of our all-time favorite things to do in summer. My recruiter challenged me to get three names while there. I remember thinking, uh, noooo. I just want to enjoy the smells, drink in the atmosphere, sit in the breeze, watch my team play, have some cotton candy. No way was I going to be on the lookout for women to chat up. Guess I wasn't cut out to "work my business."
"Mary Kay couger". LOL. Good one, Scrib.
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04 Nov 2009 00:19 | thinkingpinkstinks
Scrib, my favorite is the wearing of the MK pin upside down. I did this everywhere and no one, I mean no one, said anything to me. I'm sure they knew it was there, chuckled to themselves about what a fool I was, and didn't want anything to do with me. I also carried my tote with Look Books to every football and baseball game, proudly putting the tote where everyone could see it. Was I nuts? Yes. Did anyone say anything to me or want to look at the book? I had a bad experience at my favorite dentist's office. Basically, I had bad experiences in a lot of places. MK wasn't fun. It was humiliating more times than I care to remember.
Oh, and another thing, I have often wondered how the daughters of NSDs got their people so fast. Now I know. I thought you had to earn your unit just like everyone else. Only in your MK dreams!
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04 Nov 2009 01:42 | kenpomom
[quote]. . by facing a whole pack of the brutes armed with only a DISC chart and a deck of “Damn right your wife’s going to say “yes” tonight” one-liners.
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Oh, Scribbie! Thanks ever so
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04 Nov 2009 01:44 | twinkiefree
No, Scrib. You've got it wrong! You don't wear the Mary Kay pin. You put the pin on your baby, or grandbaby, or a borrowed baby! So when people goo-goo over your wee one, they will thus be entranced by the baby's jewelry, and opening up the opportunity for the more important MK booking conversation.
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04 Nov 2009 02:05 | raisinberry
You know what is the most ridiculous thing of all? NoBODY actually did this stuff...no Director I know wore her pin upside down...or held hostess teas, or sent her card in the bill envelope.
All these suggestions are passed generation to generation, AS IF, the "teacher" really experienced success with them.
Take any list of "great booking tools" and 95% of them are hogwash. To this day, my heart goes out to all the waitresses in the world who have to be nice to the,yet another, MK woman asking her to be her model cause she's SO SHARP!!!
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04 Nov 2009 02:41 | onelessSD
Raisin- you're right! I don't know of any Director wearing their pin upside down either. (however, when they were consultants - some did - I guess when you 'rise to the glorious level of director' you are just too good for that ploy!)
There are many things that SD's pass down as gospel truth and have really never done themselves. I remember as a new SD - I was meeting with 3 others at the time (my sr. included) and my sr. was asked to teach the skincare class. She declined because she hadn't done one in years and really had no idea of how it's done these days. I was floored. Then I realized that the higher you go up, the less skills you actually retain. (another ah-ha moment for me)
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04 Nov 2009 03:46 | thinkingpinkstinks
Years ago when MK was started, I believe the upside down pin trick probably did work. How many knew of Mary Kay in the 60's and 70's? I was giving skin care classes regularly because most women were home during the day and not many had heard of Mary Kay. Fast forward to today when most people know that Mary Kay is a recruiting scheme. They aren't about to ask about a Mary Kay pin for fear of the hawk grabbin' its prey.
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04 Nov 2009 04:53 | purpleisbetterthanpink
Ughhh this reminds me of when I told my Sales Director that I was going away to NYC for New Year's to see my college friends. She said that I should bring samples and hold a skin care class. I straight out told her no - I was going to visit friends I never see, and it was a mini-vacation of sorts. She just said "Okay... " in a warmly mocking tone that led me to believe she thought I was a fool.
GROSS GROSS GROSS.
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04 Nov 2009 05:00 | Wiser now
Oneless-your comment about your Sr. not knowing how to do a skincare class reminded me of something. Kind of off topic but when I went to new director training my roommate was an absolutely stunning tall, blonde beauty queen. She had been in the company 6 months and was doing Cadillac production. I felt pretty stupid because I had been a consultant for years before becoming a director. During our 3 days together I found out she had never done a SCC, did not even know what was in the starter kit or what to do with it. Barely could do a facial or knew the products. As I sat there with my mouth hanging open as she told me this, I remember telling her not to tell any of the other directors about this because they might tell someone at corporate (like corporate would even care). She got to directorship so fast because she could bring in the $3600 orders like nobody's business and used her beauty as an advantage. She was a master at getting everyone to sign up and order $3600 and didn't even discuss the other inventory levels. The whole time I was there all the other new directors treated her like she was the Queen or something, falling all over her "Oh I want to learn what you do, bla, bla, bla" She also had chargebacks out the wazoo, huge amounts of debt and ended up only being a director about 2 yrs. Her Nat'l really took advantage of her too and promised alot that never happened. She and I have kept in touch the whole time, she is pretty much anti Mary Kay now and we laugh at all the stupid things we did. Totally one of those flash in the pan people that crashed and burned. Just goes to show you don't have to know how to sell anything but the inventory package!
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04 Nov 2009 05:05 | raisinberry
Chalk up another MK wreckage story. You would think, with all the stories out there, and all we share, that somebody-ANYBODY at Corp headquarters would grow a conscience.
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04 Nov 2009 05:33 | chopportunity
Scrib, great read! Love the clever way you put things.
I did all of the things you mentioned. I took cards to everything, carried my tote with books everywhere, wore my pin upside down, I was obnoxious about it!
I also have to add that it would be easier to recruit suicide bombers than it would to recruit new consultants honestly.
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04 Nov 2009 08:19 | saucylady
This is what burns women out in MK, you always always have to be "ON". I remember fixing my makeup at 10
0 at night just to go to the friggin grocery store for a few things, "in case" I ran into a "sharp prospect". Why or why did we do this to ourselves, or family and everyone around us?????!!!!!! SOOOOOO glad to be out of MK!
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04 Nov 2009 08:23 | saucylady
Oh, thinkingpinkstinks, what do you mean you know now how the daughters of the NSD's get their people so fast? Can you pass on that little tidbit to us? I'm curious what you know
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04 Nov 2009 09:37 | onelessSD
yeah, I've personally met those flash in the pan women too - but that's an amazing story - how can someone fly under the radar so much - and basically be graduated but can't read. Yikes!
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04 Nov 2009 10:11 | MKGinger
I would always sit and listed to the Nationals like they knew what they were talking about...but yes the things you are telling us to do did work in the 80s but that crap is not what works today. What works today is websites like Sephora that have everything, expensive and inexpensive, deals all the time, free shipping, returns, and stores where you can try EVERYTHING. That is what works today. Until the IBCs stop ordering all this inventory corporate will never see that it doesn't work. As long as the money keeps coming in from somewhere.
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04 Nov 2009 10:24 | stinkinpinkthinkin
I know I was only an IBC, but seriously am I the only one who actually had someone try to physically correct the upside down pin or comment on it???
I thought the whole think was really kind of freaky when my director told me I needed to wear it upside down. She said people would comment on it and then I could "give them the pitch"
I actually had someone try to fix my pin!!! They actually reached out to touch me!!!!!!!!!
It really, really upset me - I'm an abuse survivor and I don't like anyone I don't know getting in my personal space, let alone "accosting" me to fix a stupid pin - especially a stranger. I can't even handle having friends I know want to fix my collar or something like that if it's tweaked. I will automatically pull away.
People in my unit made it sound like women always "talked" to them when their pins were on upside down - not that they actually "touched" them or tried to turn the pin the right way. I would have never ever tried this trick if I thought someone would actually attempt to touch me.
This lady said "Oh your pin looks like it's falling off" and then reached out toward me. I literally jumped backward away from her. I reached for the pin to block her hand and then walked away really shaken up. I never said anything about the "opportunity" and she never mentioned anything about the source of the pin being "MK" I couldn't even think about mentioning MK at that point because I was so upset. I wasn't even attempting to speak to her or anyone about MK - I was looking at cards in a Hallmark shop, basically minding my own business.
That was the last time I ever wore my pin in public away from a meeting. I wouldn't even put it on until I drove up in the parking lot and it was the first thing off of my blouse/jacket when I got in my car to leave.
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04 Nov 2009 10:52 | pinkpunch
Scribbler sure has a way with words!
My favorite part of this piece...
[quote]Remember, if you get a black eye, it only means they don’t have enough information![/quote]
Do you think I could use this? I mean, do you think it would hold up in court?Judge says, "And so now why, Mrs. Punchie, did you blacken her eye?
I say, "Because... because she didn't give me enough information! That's why!"
Hey, a girl can dream...fiction...MKers do it all of the time!
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04 Nov 2009 11:20 | CaptainEm
I remember a few years ago when I was student teaching... one of the moms for a Christmas gift gave me a cute little bag of her MK minis... along with her business card.
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04 Nov 2009 14:06 | nomoremlm4me
Just goes to show you don't have to know how to sell anything but the inventory package!
Wisernow, you just hit the nail on the head!!! It's not selling makeup that is your "job", it is selling the inventory package.
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04 Nov 2009 14:35 | Still Breaking The Basic
"Include a business card or flyer with your bill payments."
Pay all bills with MK checks. Spritz the check & remittance stub in case the items are separated and routed for processing. Use a different fragrance every month. Attach a note offering a free gift to the first 10 callers.
Don't forget Halloween. Make up little goodie bags with an assortment of candies, a sample and your business card. Parents will appreciate knowing where the candy came from, and moms will love sampling products from the #1 company in America.
While Linus is busy working the pumpkin patch, he's got Lucy working his business for him as well. Sounds like he's in the Helou unit.
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04 Nov 2009 16:07 | stinkinpinkthinkin
Yep, Still Breaking:
Helou area/unit was definitely a family affair - and you were not thought highly of if you didn't capitalize on your immediately family.
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04 Nov 2009 20:13 | pinkpeace
Gah - bad memories.
I could never figure out the wisdom in putting a business card into a bill payment that was going to a P.O. box hundreds of miles away and being opened by some temp who just got annoyed at having to pull out something extra from the envelope.
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04 Nov 2009 20:20 | pinkpeace
More (sorry, my computer just got wonky):
Do you remember the panic after 9/11 about anything out of the ordinary? I'm specifically thinking when banks got nervous that someone would try to put a bomb or something in the drive-thru drawers. A local IBC added a card and perfume sample to her drive-thru transaction and the bank called the police and the HAZMAT team! Too funny.
I used to ALWAYS wear some kind of MK jewelry wherever I went - God, I was such a dork! In 11-12 years, probably a handful of people ever commented on my pin, earrings, whatever. Meanwhile, I sacrificed wearing really great jewelry in my own collection so I could "promote my business" instead.
You know what's amazing about all of this is that while we were in Mary Kay, we thought
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04 Nov 2009 20:32 | pinkpeace
Stupid computer again! (I keep telling it I don't want to restart it now - but it just doesn't listen.)
Last thought to finish from above:
While in MK, we thought the world revolved around the company. We were a billion-dollar industry! We had millions of consultant! We were America's best-selling brand! Our NSDs were top executives in the business world, making millions!
Then when we got out, we discovered that Mary Kay is at best, pretty much ignored, and at worst, mocked. No one thinks we're "sharp women" because we wear a suit and pantyhose and a glittery pin. They think we're a little goofy. No one goes up to a woman carrying a black bag displaying a brochure and asks her about it. They don't pay attention to your card. They've never heard of your National and they could not care less about the titles of "Future This" or "On-Target That" or whatever is being aspired to in Mary Kay world.
Once you get outside, you see where the company is a joke. Frankly, it's embarrassing to have been associated with Mary Kay. I now let very few people know I was ever involved with that company.
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05 Nov 2009 00:17 | freshoutofpink
Pinkpeace I echo what you said about what we felt about the company when we were in vs. now that we're out!
I remember being so proud of the company too. I didn't understand what a joke it was to most people! That's why your SD will tell you to remain inside the pink bubble.
Recently I went to a director retreat and we stayed at the summer home of our "future national", (been that for about 20 years btw). She said she never talks business while there even though she drives her Caddie to her place. Said she likes to be there incognito! Are you kiddin' me! You came up in the Caddie! All that to say, I'll bet she is in a different world up there and realizes that no one gives a flip if she's in MK or not!
Outside of MK, no one cares if you have this made up title or that made of "future" this or that title.
My own sister said, "Isn't Mary Kay a cult"? I was just getting out at the time and remember thinking that this was the world's perspective on what I did for all those years. I was so embarrassed!
Now, when asked what I do, I don't admit I had anything to do with MK. In fact, I can't believe I wasted anything with that company.
Mary Kay Cosmetics is a joke!
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05 Nov 2009 02:15 | Out of Pink
Freshoutofpink
Outside of MK, no one cares if you have this made up title or that made of "future" this or that title.
I know a director who calls herself "Future NSD" who has been in 15-20 years and only has one remaining offsrping director.
Shouldn't someone tell her that is it just not going to happen - wake up and get a life!!
I, too, am embarrassed to admit that I ever did MK. Anyone who works in the "real" world - in any type of profession can clearly see that this is a joke.
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05 Nov 2009 03:25 | pinkpeace
Ha - I know of one who calls herself a "Future Future National Sales Director"!
(Translation: She has one offspring.)
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As someone with a business degree, I do not understand how anyone could rationalize the structure of a company like Mary Kay.
What kind of company 'grows' itself by introducing new competitors into the marketplace? When you recruit new sales reps, if the money really was found in sales of the product, that's what you'd be doing.
The reality is, the 'customers' are the new recruits. They just don't tell you that. I've blogged about the market inefficiencies of MLMs in the past.
http://www.fashionopolist.com/2009/11/mary-kay-ill-take-that-lipstick-with.html
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05 Nov 2009 05:00 | pinkpunch
pinkpeace wrote:
[quote]Once you get outside, you see where the company is a joke. Frankly, it's embarrassing to have been associated with Mary Kay. I now let very few people know I was ever involved with that company. [/quote]
I know, I feel the same way. It's even more embarrassing to face the current the people, in your life, that you've went on and on to, about how great the company is! 
[quote]Ha - I know of one who calls herself a "Future Future National Sales Director"!
(Translation: She has one offspring.)
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05 Nov 2009 05:24 | Wiser now
I found all the titles, especially the ones that were "ELITE Executive Future Super Duper Whatever" very embarrasing. To me saying I was "Elite" was very self absorbed and unprofessional. I have always been in business and it sounds not only childish but like some imaginary title you find in a childrens story or something. My new favorite one is Sean Key's "Vice President of Sales Force Intelligence" What the ?? is that? To me it sounds very insulting & strange, like someone is in charge of the Sales Forces's intelligence. Oh, come to think of it, I guess someone has to be to keep them in the fog!
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05 Nov 2009 05:40 | icanbecomesane
Once you get outside, you see where the company is a joke. Frankly, it's embarrassing to have been associated with Mary Kay. I now let very few people know I was ever involved with that company.
I hear you PinkPeace! I feel exactly the same way.
2 friends of mine asked if I miss it. They know how hard I tried and for how long. I said no. I didn't want to get into the whole thing. I just talked about how the market is saturated and how I only made a little money here - a little money there. They were kind and understanding. Small consolation though.
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05 Nov 2009 06:38 | Lazy Gardens
Link to [url=http://www.fashionopolist.com/2009/11/mary-kay-ill-take-that-lipstick-with.html]Fashionopolist's blog post[/url] about Mary Kay.
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05 Nov 2009 09:58 | CaptainEm
There is a total of two people outside MK who know I did it. One was a former IBC herself and it was clear she was faking a smile of support when I told her what I had done (this was before I decided I needed out). The other was my little sister who was invited to an MK party with my SD.
I live in fear someone will find out. Fortunately my roommate (who is a guy) is oblivious and never noticed the MK packet my SD gave me. He's my cousin and I would have died if he told the family.
I'm sorry, but even these non-intrusive ways are outside my comfort zone.
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05 Nov 2009 11:01 | company sucks
I just had hysterectomy surgery 2 weeks ago. I was thinking today, if I had to be off at least 4 weeks, like I am doing, would mary kay be paying me short term disability? I don't think so. How nice it is to recover and not have to worry about book, sell, recruit and I still get a paycheck!
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05 Nov 2009 11:25 | Iamnobodysticket!
Dear company sucks, Get well soon! Know that when I had my hysterectomy while an IBC in 2000, my SD told me to take books and samples to the hospital with me, and me, being totally indoctrinated in the MK Cult, did it. What a fool I was! Since I have been out of the bubble, I heard that last yr she (my former jailer, I mean SD), was hospitalized with a life threatening condition and kept timewise lined up on her bed table with her business cards and beauty books. She kept showing her physician her photo on her business card, telling him, "This is what I am supposed to look like!".
Sooooo, you lay on that couch and write your Christmas card, do your holiday baking and eat your bon-bons; and don't think about work til you walk back in tht office door in 4 to 6 weeks! Doesn't that sound so much nicer than knowing you have to cold call customers every night so you can put food on the table??
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05 Nov 2009 12:00 | company sucks
Thanks so much! I can't even imagine trying to hand out anything after I had surgery, I was so doped up I kept nodding off every 5 minutes! I know I was devasted when I was "fired" from MK. Now I finally realize that was the best thing that could have happened!
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05 Nov 2009 13:50 | Still Breaking The Basic
"I could never figure out the wisdom in putting a business card into a bill payment that was going to a P.O. box hundreds of miles away and being opened by some temp who just got annoyed at having to pull out something extra from the envelope."
Remember pinkpeace, Mary Kay told us not to pre-judge anyone. Our next star recruit could be in a mail room somewhere.
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05 Nov 2009 14:47 | saucylady
I just wish I hadn't been in for 14 years, and 5 of those as a SD. I wish I had gotten out a few years before I did, at the time that I would only allow myself to think negative MK thoughts about my directorship while I was in the shower!
Can you believe that? Here I was a smart 50 year old women, 3 sons, married, I've been in real businesses before and always rose to the top of my field, was top salesperson in the 80's out of dozens of male salepeople in the contract engineering business, and I'm afraid I'll "let someone down" if I get out of friggin MK!
I will never allow a business to brainwash me again. It reminds me of AMway! Thanks for letting me vent, I feel better now! I love Pinktruth.
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05 Nov 2009 16:52 | onelessSD
Ladies - I agree. The world (business or otherwise) doesn't give a rip about MK. I used to cringe and get offended when someone would poke fun at MKC, the weird ladies, etc. Do any of you remember the Seinfeld episode mentioning the MK Cadillac? It's hilarious! Kramer is walking around town in the Joseph & the Technicolor Dream Coat (or something like that!) - he's walking around town looking like a pimp - and the lot where his car is parked - the attendant tries to trade him a MK Car - and he finds out it's being "used" - gets caught - etc. (if you haven't seen it - it's hilarious!) But I used to kind of get peeved at that sacreligious mention of the MK car - now- I see it for what it is "a pimp ride".
(hoping you all can laugh along with me on that one!)
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11 Nov 2009 02:19 | anthonysmom
"Host a show before or during a PTA meeting." Or as part of a girl scout meeting...one of my co-workers (a sweet single-dad) just told me that he had to sit through an MK demo when he took his daughter to girl scouts - SERIOUSLY!?!??! They just have no shame.
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16 Nov 2009 01:25 | so.over.it
"Offer your business card with samples everywhere you go: home, office, picnics, parties, play-grounds, etc."
I did this all of the time-everywhere I went. I have to admit, it helped me become more outgoing (which I am thankful for) but now that I have quit being a consultant, I am so happy and relieved that I can go to the grocery store, a football game, and out to eat without having to bring little goodie bags and face my fears of meeting a potential hostess or recruit. Life sure was fun with Mary Kay but 100 times better without it! I am so happy to have my freedom back! For those of you interested in the opportunity-it is great for personal growth but just don't invest too much time or money. And don't take this business too seriously.
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17 Nov 2009 18:03 | Mercure
Remember, if you get a black eye, it only means they don’t have enough information!
That just about killed me! Ah Scribbler-- you're absolutely my favourite writer here. I love the way you phrase things.
(and that so sounds like something i'd say. i'm polite in a refusal for a sales pitch exactly once. if they keep pestering me then i turn into a sarcastic sadistic hellbitch who will start laughing hysterically if she makes you cry. sad, but true.)
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