Buying a House With Your Mary Kay Sisters

What a complete waste of a beautiful home. It won't be long before it is back on the market though. We all know that MK does not pay the rent!

Geez, I wonder what it's going to cost the consultants for their Monday night "free training"! Enough to cover the mortgage?

love that MKA shrine... and who says they don't put God first?? Mary Kay Ash *IS* God!

The signs are the biggest violation. If Corpse didn't know about it before, they do now.

OMG! What a beautiful home. I wonder whose husband has the money to float this venture since we all know that these poor ladies won't be able to in the long run.

Holy crap! That's insane. not to mention, are they allowed to "infer" Mary Kay on the sign like that? All the meeting places I've seen that have signs are very carefully worded. "Consultant training" or "Success Training" or something like that. This is nuts. These women are out of control. Wake up - it's not your own business. Corpse can shut you down at any point!

Me thinks (IMHO) the signs are ok because they say MK not Mary Kay and of course, they stayed awsy from the color pink. However, they really aren't supposed to sell out of any training center....that is why we go out to the trunk of the car after the demo....we sell out of the trunk

PP

wish them luck, they are gonna need it. I bet they have a pinkkoolittaville in the kitchen too-

I was on a lease with 9 other directors in my town. Of course the idea was "training" but we did facials, classes and interviews as well.
Corporate would not even allow us to list our business name on the building directory in the hall! We did have to fill orders out of a cooler in our trunk.
Not to mention is was in a bad part of town and still cost us $2,500 a month with a lease of 2 years.
Finding a meeting space is the bane
of a directors existence and I can understand the need but, before they signed on the dotted line, someone must have checked with corportate.
So how does it happen that they could get by with this? It all depends on who your national is and how much pull she has. It's just another case of favoritism and nobody knowing what's happening at Mary Kay. Sometimes they enforce their rules and sometimes not. And yes, it is out of control!
That town now has a great big beautiful hive where they can sting everyone they bring in. On second thought, maybe that's why Corp broke their own rule.
Doesn't this stuff make you crazy!?!
Unfairness for many and money for them, that's the Mary Kay way!

There is no way Corporate knew about this prior to purchase, and after today, they are sure to pay a visit.

If these ladies went ahead in ignorance, they are going to pay a terrible price because if MK pulls their agreements, they are going to have to join ACORN and open a brothel.

Oh brother! I've been in this kind of situation before, and I guarantee the fur will fly as soon as the first SD who loses her directorship defaults on her portion of the mortgage.

This looks cute and wonderful, but I want to see the behind-the-scenes with maintenance, upkeep, taxes, etc.

What a pink nightmare!

Tracy, make the

margins work on

the comments!

If there are quite a few owners on this property, I see many fights. Oh, it will be a mess.

Oh yeah ANOTHER reason I can list for leaving...
This POOR dear! IF you look at her profile she has sent out 300 "MK kisses" and recieved NONE! Isn't that the way it is with MK though...
Effort on your behalf = 100%+
Effort of the "others" in your "unit"= 10% IF you are lucky...

Oh and she judges pageants (nothing against pageants) but I wonder if contestants rate higher if they are wearing super berry or some other gosh awful pink lipstick???

Oh can she post all those MK pictures in her profile? She has pics (from the MK website) of "satin hands" and the likes. Facebook and Mary Kay should not let her post them as they are not HER property....
Wake up and smell the pink puke!

Raisin - you are hilarious! I can tell we are going to get along just fine at the meetup!

I wonder if these ladies approached ACORN in the first place, though?

MK Woman: We'd like to open an illegal retail shop, swindle under-informed American women into dropping their drawers and bending over, and use the money to finance our own campaign for National Sales Director. Do you have any advice for us?

Acorn rep: I think that sounds like a good idea. Just make sure to keep them in the pink cloud...

Ciavyn! too funny!! Definitely sounds like an Acorn thing.

I can't believe these ladies did this?!! I would think/hope that Corp would pull the plug on this venture, and when that happens, I feel sorry for the gals that got suckered into this foolishness. It won't be pretty.

Am I the only one who can not read the whole article & comments? The margin is cutting off on the right side.

I cant read the whole thing either.

My SD/NSD told one of the girls in my unit that it was perfectly fine to stock and sell her product at the front desk at a gym. I told her I didn't think it was a good idea. Whenever we'd ask my SD/NSD about any MK rules, she would always say to do whatever we wanted until someone told us "no". Great role model, huh?

I had a place I rented with a few other directors (crappy little space in the bottom floor (basement) of a building) for a year. We didn't have many issues. Another director in my nat'l area owned an office condo and rented it to a bunch of other directors. They were always at each other's throats about EVERYTHING. I think these girls buying this house together is an absolute recipe for disaster...

These women are completely pink brainwashed! MK gives capes away as prizes. Are they pink? LOL They can wear their capes to the meetings (covens) in this house and be pink witches. Scary, but appropriate for Halloween coming up. This house is located in Fort Smith, Arkansas. Bentonville, Arkansas is where the Walmart corporate headquarters is located. There is probably a Walmart on ever corner in Arkansas. How can you compete with the huge Walmart Cosmetics Department? Today 09/16/09, there are 27,189 entries on Ebay. Some entries have 300 and 200 items. You can buy a ginormous amount of deeply discounted MK from Ebay. Why go to this house???

Oh my gosh! The expense of it all! I can't imagine..the signage alone had to cost a fortune. Looking at the photos just makes me think $$$$ going out that will not come back.

I shared a training center with several Directors for over five years. It was a storefront and reasonable at $125 a month. Because I was established with meetings, I attracted a lot of adoptees. I consistently offsprang adoptees rather than my own offspring. I found it irritating that the higher up the Senior Director,the harder it was to collect any kind of reimbursement for expenses for adoptees.

I know the Director whose name was on the lease took a huge hit, especially when Directors came and went. Most of the Directors in this area now use free restaurant meeting rooms. I found it highly unprofessional to get into my suit and hose and deal with the teens who worked at Donatos. That was the beginning of the end for me.

I feel SO FREE now because I don't have to worry about all the things I worried about for so many years as a Sales Director. Funny, I carried an extra 20-25 pounds on my body the entire time I was a Director. Not anymore! The weight literally melted off of me effortlessly. Coincidence? I think not!!

Raisin - that is so funny

love the humor today.

It may also violate city ordinance laws as well. It looks like it is in a residential area.???

RM sold out (& still does) of her house all the time. She is now advertising MK in her house "business" window by sneakily putting MK magazines that say Mary Kay in print &/or gift bags in her mk room window. Again, a violation of city ordinances.

oh, I forgot...most City Ordinances will NOT allow the storing of business "inventory" in the home!

Geesh, now how many mk women have rooms & rooms of inventory storage

MK Agreement - rule #4....I understand that display or sale of Mary Kay® products in public, retail or service establishments of any kind is inconsistent with the terms of this Agreement.

Its kind of a pretty little place!

Well if it doesn't' work I think it could definitely be changed over (at not a whole lot of extra expense) into a bordello.

Although...if this is in a residential neighborhood the neighbors might have an issue with Ray-Ray hanging out in front.

Or..maybe it already is! These women aren't going to pay their rent selling Miracle Sets...I wonder if they tell possible recruits they could use one of the bedrooms upstairs for afternoon delights?

Oh, and since it used to belong to a florist, its already zoned business so they probably don't have to worry about that.

If you can't read the whole thing, it's because your screen is too narrow. If you have a sidebar open (like for bookmarks), close it to give yourself a wider window and you should be able to see the rest.

[quote]Oh, and since it used to belong to a florist, its already zoned business so they probably don't have to worry about that.[/quote]

duh :s I did read that. It also states that it is Commercial/Residential

For a minute there I thought Mary Kay's picture on the mantle was one of Scrib's photoshop creations. Creepy. Creepy. Creepy. Creepy. Creepy.

I was wondering if Mary Kay Ash's - ashes were in that "urn" on the table in photo #3

What a beautiful home. The kitchen is a touch too small, for my liking. The food table looks yummy. LOL I bet Corp does nothing about it.

I do feel like a fool about something. I just saw a Cover Girl commercial on tv with Rihanna. I remember being told years ago that MK saves money and keeps their costs down by NOT using celebrities. Last time I checked, Cover Girl mascara is priced anywhere from $5 to $12. The whole Cover Girl line is inexpensive. So tell me again, why MK's product prices are so high - especially when MK doesn't use celebs to promote their products?

Tracy, I still don't see the whole "comment".

looks like we're used to the narrower browser width

What a frickin' nightmare. Surely Acorn would be happy to help them.

I hope the bank accepts product as payment for the mortgage. If not, they're screwed.

I don't have anything opened on my screen. Just pulled up PT like I always did and like all of my other sites.

The Pink Truth sidebar looks like it's moved about two inches to the right, blocking off a portion of the article and comments.

(thank you)

puc4now - Kudos for that comment!

It is a cute place.

Oh the nightmares and conflicts I can imagine if something goes south (as it can and often does in these situations.)

Corporate does seem very arbitrary in enforcing the rules. I once saw an IBC set up as the make up person for a portrait studio in a mall. I don't know if she sold product out of there too, but everything MK was prominently displayed and obvious.

I too am having issues with the right hand margin...and I have nothing else open, and I can't make my screen any wider.

*sobs*

In the top upper right hand of your browser corner (I use Firefox) you will see a minus, then a square, then an x - if you click the square it will widen or narrow your viewing/Browser. That should help you to view the whole thing.

My page is expanded already and I am still missing the right margin.
Darn!

I am too- unable to read the whole article because of the overlapping toolbar. It has been this way for a couple days...and my screen is as wide as it can be...

On the subject of the article...wow, I can't really take the whole thing in! I am in the process of buying a house right now and the market is crazy out there...don't let anyone say different. For one property there will be 10 offers...outbidding the listed price...so someone shelled out a chunk of change for sure. And, how sad that MK Corporate will most likely do nothing. I agree...they will pick and choose..and I doubt that the group that created this did not check ahead to make sure that an investment of that size would not blow up in their faces. They got a green light somewhere.. This is flagrant...and unlevels the shaky playing ground of MK sales for the poor woman who is going up against that banded group of directors/IBC's...who could compete with that? Wow. Thats amazing.

Okay, the name MK Studios combined with pink balloons, and shirts in the windows that say PINK something or other....spells a Mary Kay house to me.

But they get upset when ToP uses the word "pink"?

I really think that in these tough times, they shoul open a brothel on the second floor of the house. They can use their MK training in this endeavor too! Like.. "what would be better for you? The beginning of the day or the end of the day?" And.."how would you like to pay for that? VISA, Mastercard or the wife unawareness program"?

The business slogan downstairs reads "Enriching women's lives." The sign for the upstairs business could read.."Nobody can screw you like Mary Kay!"

PUNKED!!! That is HILARIOUS!!!!

Well my screen is wide and I still have no idea what tidbits I am missing on the right margin....

And the sign in the hallway:

"We sell our souls for a buck. All other parts half price on training nights."

Punked!!

Duped!!

Looks like there's going to be a lot of unit frontloading to pay the monthly mortgage payment.

Do they have a pink doghouse for the husbands?

How about "Buying a House for Your MK NSD" for the Kaybots? Cause that's where their $$$$$ are really going.

That painting of MKA really gives me the heebie jeebies. It's like one those creepy paintings in the movies where the eyes follow you.

Out! that is SO true!! they follow you and then there's the urn...

I cant figure the ff browser width.
going to the evil empire. the pic
with the chairs all jammed in
what do the 2 or 3 that show
up to go up feel like? All
those chairs and nobody there

look at the pic with the balloon
buffet, in the mirror above see
the blue suit all alone looking
out the door and no one is show
ing up!

look at the manikins in the
front windows wearing PT shirts!

I resaved the page and refreshed it but I still cant read the whole message

I cannot see the right side of the article either and my browser is fine on every other Webpage.

I'm frustrated. My broswer is set correctly. I can read everything okay until I click on the "read more" & "comments". Than the whole right side margin is cut off and so much that I can't even piece together what is being written. Love coming here everyday but if I can't read it I guess I won't be here much. I never had this problem up until a few days ago.

it wont take long
the other mk sd in the area will be sure corps knows about this place. i
t will cause enuff trouble that something will be done about it to take it down.

jealousy will take it down.

Out - so true - I think they've always carried "Our Beloved Founder" a bit too far. Does anyone remember a couple of years ago (maybe even last year) how the company had for the Court of Sales if you get to the $48K level, you get a portrait of MK - (in addition to whatever trinket you chose) - that must have been the portrait - so think of all the credit card debit that Director is carrying, and now a mortgage?! So scary - especially in today's economy - oh that right, she's just "choosing not to participate" - I forgot!

I'm sure the margin
issue is just a
temporary problem. It
usually gets fixed in
within a week.

What a nightmare in the making this is! I was on a 4 year lease with 11 other directors. The problems started when some of those directors either stepped down or lost their units. They were still on the lease and expected to pay their part. But 3 of them did not. So the rent goes up for the rest.

When I decided to let my unit go and leave MK, I was expected to pay rent but they wanted me to turn in my keys. It was a mess. My former Senior talked to several nationals and top directors claiming that I was doing all sorts of things on the property, including drinking and bringing in suspicious people. I was using a room to have meetings with volunteers of the ministry I work for. I also had a Bible Study meeting there.

It was such a bad idea to sign a lease with that many women and for that length of time. Finally the lease ended a few months ago and I am finally free. I can't even imagine being a joint owner with other Sales Directors. This is insane.

There are so many hidden cost such as liability insurance, maintenance, upkeep and utilities. We fought about everything during that 4 years.

Did anyone notice that Melissa has Pam Shaw as one of her Facebook friends? Maybe she has her approval on the house purchase!

LOL...I don't normally make comments, but I JUST HAVE TO THIS TIME!!!

I'm thinking "Women in Big Girl panties playing store!!"

I don't know what to tell you. The page is fine for me in both Firefox and Internet Explorer. If you're using IE6, that might be the cause of the problem. But at this point I don't see any problem that I can fix.

and another friend is Gloria Mayfield Banks on facebook. She knows the right nsds it looks like.

The page is working fine in Internet Explorer 7. I know that my theatre website does weird stuff for folks who aren't upgrated to the latest version. Are you ladies all using the latest version of IE?

Comments have been cut off for a couple of months now. Here's what I see in the latest version of Firefox:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/sheila7667/comments.gif

Additionally, as of this week, if you don't type the "www" in front of this site's URL, you won't get this site. Instead, you get this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/sheila7667/website.gif

Trying to add links one last time.

What you get without "www" in front of pinktruth.com.

[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/sheila7667/website.gif[/url]

And what the cutoff comments look like in the latest version of Firefox:

[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/sheila7667/comments.gif[/url]

The cutoff comments in that picture are because the screen is too narrow. Close sidebars as I've suggested above, or change your screen resolution to fit more on the screen. It's not even *that* wide from the left side of the site to the right side of the center column. I don't have it set up for wide screens, but if yours is still being cut off, youv'e got to change your settings.

ha! I'm doomed.
Change my settings?
What does that mean?
I have explorer 8.0
recently downloaded..
:s

I have IE8 and my monitor screen is 16" wide. I see all of the comments with a 3" margin on each side. I have 4 other windows open (but minimized) with no problem. I've never changed the screen display in the Control Panel, so I am in the dark about what might be going wrong for others.

Thanks for the tip, sheila. I couldn't figure out why just typing in pinktruth.com wouldn't work anymore. I google searched and got in that way.

With the building exterior, the urn, MKA's picture, and the empty chairs, it looks like they're preparing for a funeral or a memorial service.

In internet explorer, click on the word "page" on browser between printer symbol and the word "safety". Then click on "zoom". Mine is set to 100%. Also, check "text" size maybe that will make a difference. Hope this helps.

Hey, I "zoomed out" and now can read everything. The text is smaller, but it works. Now, I just need to get more magnification in my glasses. If it's not one thing, it's another.

I can't even imagine the mess that this will be for an SD that resigns. First, she'll have all of her debt to be sick about, lose all of her so-called MK girlfriends and also be stuck to a mortgage payment. :s This is a really bad idea. I wonder if they have anything in writing about the what "ifs". Oh, forgive me, only smart and real business women do that, so I'm sure they did not. Plus, if they were to put in writing something about leaving MK, wouldn't that be considered negative thoughts/thinking. :s

PinkPunch - if they were to put in writing something about leaving MK, wouldn't that be considered negative thoughts/thinking

Oh Dear, how to write that clause is a dilemma. How about this?

"If I, Dazee Drecktor, become a lazy good-for nothing who stops working her business, I agree to continue to pay my part of the mortgage although I will be banned and shunned and spoken ill of by my erstwhile best friends."

Other people's BFF = Best friends forever
MK BFF = Best Financial Friends

I could always read the main page before why doesn't it work now?

I did that 'zoom' thing and I can see the comments in full now, but the font is tiny! I too have IE 8.0. Everyhting on the site is fine until I click on 'read more' or 'write comments' and then the picutres expand (or in the previous post the table expands) beyond the margins and everything is cut off.

same here, cdn. The Comments box expands past and beneath the right margin. That's why it is unreadable.

I wonder why the margin thing wasn't a problem before? I never had a problem with it until a few days ago.
I can zoom out and reduce from 100 to 75 and the margins are better but I can't read it because the print is too small. I have Firefox and IE too. Thanks everyone for the tips though
Oh well...
Our vsitors probably can't read the comments either. Bummer.

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Tracy, I notice that the margin problem didn't start until the "Why you should become a Mary Kay sales director now" article. The articles below it on the main page don't have the same problem, at least for me. Also the thumbs up/thumbs down feature is not present.
Just an observation from my computer.

Maybe we got the Pink Swine Hacker Flu!

I can't read comments
either and I have a
screen that is more than
24". If I click on the
print icon near the top
Ican read everything ok
though.

I've had enough bad roommates to not even want to think about owning a house with that many women!

Well the weirdness is only on this post. I've read old posts and there's no issue. Who knows? Maybe it's just a glitch with some of our computers or something.

It's great to be back to PT. Couldn't log in for a while.

This is incredibly stupid ! It's maddening that these women put themselves at such risk. Haven't they ever watched Judge Judy? Never co-sign anything with anyone unless you're willing to lose the cash or end up in court.

How could they be so so blind? I'm sorry; I don't mean to name call but damn, what the hell were they thinking? Were they thinking at all???

I, too am having probs with the margins
on my 'puter screen. Only started
since we had the missing daily chats
that Tracy placed a comment about
on the message boards. I've tried
resetting my settings and such, but to
no avail. I can read the whole
article if I click on the print icon
at the top of each article but
then I have to slide my tool bar
spacer back and forth to get all
the information. It's frustrating
to say the least.

I don't seem to have a problem on
the discussion board posts, just
with the article you post for
reading and comments.

Now as to this post. I'm VERY sur-
prised these women are getting
away with this. I've seen so many
things done, which were supposed to
be against the "rules" Such as I
thought it was not OK to set up
booths at city events. We have
several city-sponsored events in my
town yearly. It never fails that
I see at least one booth with Mary
Kay - and they are selling the
products.

Also at our "Success Center" they
sold products at every meeting.

They would fill the roll-up bags
with the standard products and
offer it at a "sale price" for any
person who was participating
in a facial . In addition they
passed around the LOOK book and
let people order whatever they wanted
We all brought our supply bags in
to our respective unit rooms and were told to come with additional product
in the car to retrieve if one of
our guests wanted to purchase some-
thing.

I think the MK people around here do
whatever they want. It seems you
have to be dishonest in order to
make any money.

I always thought it was stupid to
not allow a person to sell items in
public - such as at fairs or city
events. After all, you were putting
the company's product in the public
eye. Silly me, I forgot MK is not
concerned about "selling" there stuff
to customers, just the people who
"work" for them

Also, we had a MKA Foundation event
sponsored here when I was still a
consultant. Our local minor league
hockey team sponsored a "Pink at the
Rink" two years in a row. The one I
went to had a gazillion MK consultants
set up all around the mezzanine level
of the stadium, selling everything.
Corpse supposedly endorsed this event
as it raised over $40,000 dollars for
the Breast Cancer Fund.

Guess they didn't care then either
what was being sold or how :s . I find
it odd that no one knew since we
had the lady (can't remember her
name) who was MKAsh's personal
assistant there for the event.

That is my dream house, I would do anything for that. Of course I am a broke college student. I will be several years before that will even be a REMOTE possibility for me.

wonder how long before mk inc makes them shut it down.

I just recieved a request
for items, from my director,
for an upcoming yardsale to
"raise funds" for our
training center.

I'm not sure why the need
the funds. I don't go to
the meetings anymore and
haven't for some time.

Wonder how long it will be
before the house from this
article is doing a yard sale
to "raise funds" to keep
its doors open?

first of all, the margins have finally corrected themselves - thanks Tracy!

Second, the foolishness of these women amaze me. The cost of purchasing the house, furnishing the house, decorating the house, the utilities, taxes, the list goes on. Sheer foolishness!

Hey, did anyone see the portrait pictures of the Directors on one of the walls? All lined up like the Nationals in the MK Museum - oh I forgot - they're just thinking positively... all the way to bankruptcy court!

ruby.......donate your mk crap!

Lazy Gardens wrote:
[quote]Oh Dear, how to write that clause is a dilemma. How about this?

"If I, Dazee Drecktor, become a lazy good-for nothing who stops working her business, I agree to continue to pay my part of the mortgage although I will be banned and shunned and spoken ill of by my erstwhile best friends."[/quote]

Lazy, the sad thing here is that, that's exactly how the SD's do see it and that's not considered negative at all, in their world! :s

I'm curious to know how, in the world, does an SD that resigned/stepped down get out of a mortgage payment?
If she can't, by law, she allowed to reside and/or use the house.
Boy, they are soooo lucky that I wasn't on that mortgage!

I have to agree with PinkApostate...what a colossal waste of a beautiful home!

And the photo of Mary Kay Ash on the mantel...super creepy!

I can read the whole thing now,Thanks!

Interesting that this Facebook page seems to be gone. Can anyone else log on to the MK dreamhome la-la-land page? Or, are the ladies having problems already? Hmmmmm....