Don’t Hateshame Mary Kay!

Pink Truth is apparently just one or two women who didn’t put in effort with their Mary Kay venture, and now they’re jealous and they’re taking it out online. We need to take ownership of our choices. And also someone who could have been a national was probably prevented from doing that because of Pink Truth. Great job, everyone. Thanks for the input, random pink truth critic!

I keep reading all these stories and posts and what I don’t understand is why any one of these people involved in this site even cares? It’s masked as a way “to help other ‘victims’ from the mary kay scam” but really sounds like a bunch of whiney, negative, judgemental women. I’m not a consultant nor do I care if Mary Kay is a “scam” or not.

No one is being manipulated or promised anything from what I can tell nor does anyone have a gun put to their head to invest in their involvement is this company so hardly think this page is necessary. If anyone felt pressured to do something that is their own internal nonsense talking. No one can make you feel a certain way, your giving these consultants to much damm credit frankly.

If you really wanted Mary Kay to sink and fall you would not show any attention to the company at all. That is indifference and indifference will kill a company more than slandering and hateshaming ever could. Anyone truly wasting their time slandering a company for selling cosmetics and recruiting other employees suggests jealousy that you didn’t so the work needed to be successful yourself. Otherwise if that were not the case you wouldn’t care.

I find it hard to believe a company that lasts 55+ years without any debt worldwide could do so while silently manipulating victims the whole time. Its more likely that one or two women who “tried” mary kay, invested money, put in little time of effort in to be sucessful got jealous and bitter and quit and decided to take out their feelings of inadequacy online. You know statistically there is study after study that visualization and positive enforcement will create sucess in business then skepticism?

The ones truly harming the potential of future consultants are those on this site. Its like everyone takes god and family before work to mean that every hiccup, diaper rash and diaper change is worth using as an excuse not to work your business and any one who disagrees is part of a manipulative pyrimid scheme…no..we disagree because your flaky and lazy and expect success to fall in your lap.

You exoect to run sucessful business without startup costs. These other businesses made everyone so damn entitled. No real business can effectively run without a stock of inventory and that always costs money. What if your favorite clothes store only carried one item of every size to try on and you haf to order your new clothes? Dumb.

Sorry for whomever got “manipulated” and quit their business and feels burned but maybe take mote ownership of your choices because seems to me while you are criticising and judging these sales directors about their lies etc that they are too busy earning jewelry and free cars etc to be bothered with that childish behavior…this is such a dumb Congo in my opinion and its not your job to save anyone. And shoving your point down potential recruits throats makes you no. Better then the women your complaining about.

How do you know your site hasn’t held back a woman from signing who would have been a national and had a totally different life for their family but you “saved her” so now she and her family struggle pay to pay wishing they had a plan b set up? I dunno just some thoughts

19 Comments

  1. PeachyNotPink

    “If you really wanted Mary Kay to sink and fall you would not show any attention to the company at all. That is indifference and indifference will kill a company more than slandering and hateshaming ever could.”

    If you really want racism to go away, you would not show any attention to the many instances of racism. This indifference will kill the desire of all racists more than calling our their behavior and trying to effect change.

    If you really want domestic violence to go away, you would not show any attention to the victims or perpetrators. This indifference will kill the desire of the the perpetrator to abuse his victim.

    If you really want child abuse to go away….. I think you all get my point.

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  2. ihatemk

    Ok, Kaybot, who CLAIMS is not a consultant (your rhetoric betrays you by the way, you use too many MK platitudes), do you NOT know what women are posting on this site? Also, I do not think for one moment you are a random Pink Truth Critic. Most of these women were directors, Cadillac drivers, etc. Do you even read this site or did you just come on here to bash it and how did you find this site anyway? By the way there are more than 1 or 2 women on this site. Also, do you know the founder of this site is a forensic accountant and not stupid? No, way more then 1 or 2 women and they are NOT jealous of the credit card debt someone is carrying to make whatever carrot MK dangling in front of them. OMG someone who might have made National might have been prevented b/c of this site!!! Well, you said we need to take ownership of our choices, so if someone didn’t make National b/c of this site (ROFL) that was their choice. Truth is, this site probably helped someone not to get even further in debt for this MLM. Oh, wait it is no MLM it is dualmarketing!!! The reason the posters on this site care is b/c the have been DECEIVED by Mk and they are trying to warn others about what REALLY goes on in the MK world and it is also therapeutic for them to post their stories, don’t like, go to a positive MK site. I am sure you can find one. This site is not trying to mask anything it is not a bunch of whiney, negative, judgmental women (you are the one passing judgment on a site that you don’t agree with, go elsewhere), these women are talking about THEIR experience in Mk and how it affected them and their lives and are trying to let others know just EXACTLY what goes on in the MK world. How to get their inventory sent back, the expected call from their directors after making the inventory return call to MK, etc. “No one is being manipulated or promised anything from what I can tell nor does anyone have a gun put to their head to invest in their involvement is this company so hardly think this page is necessary.” Those words come straight out of the MK platitude list and even though no one may have held a gun to their head the pressure was INTENSE to sign up, order the 3600 dollar package, etc. The reason the posters on here pay attention to MK is of the lies, deceit, manipulation, etc utilized by this MLM. There are no quotas. Lie!!! You have to order like 250 every quarter in order to get the discount. BS. Oh, here we go w/how MK been in business for 55+ years. blah blah blah. It is the CONSULTANT who keeps this company in business. It is the CONSULTANT who buys all the product etc. MK doesn’t care what happens to the stuff after that, as long as you are not selling it on Ebay or similar site. Also, if you want to return your merchandise b/c u don’t think MK is for you your director will try to encourage you to have a sale b/c once you send it back you can NEVER be an IBC again (a sob story and 20 bucks should cover that). Actually, NEVER being allowed to be an IBC again would be a blessing. Oh and here we go w/the “If I can believe it I can achieve it” bs. Wishing something to be so DOES NOT MAKE IS so!!! Sounds like all that bs in the book “The Secret” which was a waste of my time reading. Most of these women invested sooooooo much time in MK w/very little reward. How do you think they became Cadillac directors, etc? This site is NOT harming the potential of “future” directors. Once again, if I believe it I can achieve thing can apply here. If someone decides to go for future director, that is up to them, but on this site if they choose to read it, they can learn what the real deal is. No, the ladies on this site did not take family before career to mean every diaper rash, hiccup, diaper change (where are u getting this stuff from anyway) to mean not to work their business. MK claim is God first, family 2nd, career third and in the REAL MK world it means MK MK MK!!! These women are not flaky nor lazy (you can’t drive a Cadillac, drive a car, be a forensic accountant by being lazy) and no, they DID NOT expect success to fall in their lap. These ladies busted the a** for none to little reward if any, the real winner was MK!!! Oh, I see you are a fan of frontloading. That is just a way for MK to get more $ and the platitude “You can’t sell from an empty wagon”. Just more MK bs and just a way for Mk to make you wanna carry inventory. Most people are willing to wait for an order and there is a world of difference between trying on clothes and using makeup. People even order clothes online and wait. Shocking concept I know!! Oh, there are directors out there earning cars and jewelry etc” and they are too busy to worry about this site. A lot of directors tell their consultants NOT to read this site and won’t call it by name. NO one is shoving their opinions down potential recruits throat, anyone is free to look at this site or not and it is THEIR CHOICE!!! Remember, we all must own our own choice according to you and doesn’t appear to matter if that choice is based upon lies and deceit my MK. Oh, it would do my heart happy to know if this site did stop someone from signing up for Mk. The way you carry on about this, it makes me think you are a director, kaybot or something and is upset b/c some of your potential recruits may have checked this site out and are more aware about the manipulations of MK. I don’t believe for even a nano second that you are not associated w/MK and I also think that some things you are discovering may be unsettling for you and not getting what MK promised. When and if you come out of the pink fog, these ladies will be here for you and help you understand that it is not YOU that was the problem, MK was.

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  3. Neverpink

    “I’m not a consultant nor do I care if Mary Kay is a “scam” or not.”

    Then why are you here? If you don’t care so much, why are you writing this rant and submitting it? That’s an awful lot of effort for someone who supposedly doesn’t care.

    There’s also the standard Hunbot bad grammar and bad spelling, plus the added bonus of the tired saying, “no one put a gun to your head”. Are you SURE you’re not a consultant?

    That “free” jewelry is costume quality with spit diamonds. Hardly worth anything. That “free” car isn’t free at all – you have to BUY a certain amount of product to meet your QUOTA to keep Mary Kay paying your lease, hun. Did you read the fine print?

    I feel bad for this person. I feel as though she would greatly benefit from therapy and English classes.

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  4. Char

    Sigh. Do they not comprehend anything we write? Some highlights, because, well, we could be here all day:

    “I find it hard to believe a company that lasts 55+ years without any debt worldwide could do so while silently manipulating victims the whole time.” — Just exactly how do you think they became debt-free? WHO orders from them?

    “You know statistically there is study after study that visualization and positive enforcement will create sucess in business then skepticism?” — An that’s what MK Inc. does, except I would call it manipulation and brainwashing. Plus, you’ve got your businesses confused, Hun.

    Simplified: Mary Kay Inc. is the business. Their deceptive sales and marketing strategy is to convince their customers that they are a “sales force”. This drives sales FOR THEM, MKI., because that “sales force” buys a $hit ton of product…..from them. This is what MLM companies do – all of them. That is MLM! It’s about the company, not the affiliate. What consultants do with product after they buy it, no one knows or cares. The real company made their money.

    “How do you know your site hasn’t held back a woman from signing who would have been a national and had a totally different life for their family but you “saved her” so now she and her family struggle pay to pay wishing they had a plan b set up?” —

    The alternative is to allow her to scam money out of every other woman along the way? You’re disgusting, and how dare you suggest I would be jealous and bitter of that!!! People like this clearly anger me.

    “earning jewelry and free cars etc” — She is obviously very drunk on pink koolaid. I’ll try to reserve some compassion for this current brainwashed fool.

    1. NayMKWay

      Nope, not a consultant. Just a disinterested observer who happens to know:

      1. About how long Mary Kay has been in business,
      2. That they claim to be debt-free,
      3. That they claim the cars are “free,”
      4. That they also give away cheap trinkets and call it jewelry,
      5. That no one put a gun to the heads of any consultants to coerce them to
      5a. Join or
      5b. Buy lots of inventory
      6. The script used by EVERY OTHER CRITIC who has ever visited this site.

      Nope. Nothing suss here.

      (I’ll be kind and not point out all the spelling, grammar, and syntax errors in her writing, but that’s a pretty common thread among critics also.)

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    1. NayMKWay

      I think she conflated two terms and came up with a whole new portmanteau. There’s hating, as in “haterz gotta hate,” and there’s shaming, as in “stop body-shaming me; I just had a baby!”

      Hate-shaming is…, uh…, ya got me. I have no flippin’ idea what hate-shaming is.

  5. Cindylu

    The only hate shaming is in blaming PT for MK’s failures. Products don’t fly off shelves, Training is not free, The cars are not free and many end up in debt. As to becoming an NSD, do they even make executive income anymore? Maybe the NSD’s from the 1980’s and 1990’s. However lately with COVID, eBay selling discounted products etc. then becoming an NSD is an illusion that few attain and maintain. It is shameful that you blame PT for an mlm’s inability to properly advertise their products or ensure the market isn’t saturated. (Wikipedia lists MK as an mlm). Focusing on Recruiting. Front loading, and over priced ever changing products is a huge part of the problem.

  6. Wasrings90

    “What if your favorite clothes store only carried one item of every size to try on and you haf to order your new clothes? Dumb”

    I am going say she’s not really familiar with the concept of shopping resale & internet /catalog shopping….

  7. coralrose

    “No one can make someone feel a certain way”. Hmmm?
    It sounds like the letter writer is feeling irritated and/or angry by what she sees written on Pink Truth (based on the tone & words of her letter). That’s weird. “That must be her own internal nonsense talking” because no one can make anyone feel a certain way.

  8. morningstar

    They will be out of business soon..it is in the air. This business model refused to change over the course of societal pivots for 50yrs now. MK feels so ineffective as a viable entity.
    This is an example and lesson to all what greed and ultimate power eventually does, as the family lives lets’ say outside of the long term financial outcome of the company. In other words, high on the hog.

  9. Mountaineer95

    “…indifference will kill a company more than slandering and hateshaming ever could.”

    -what the what? Source, please.

    “…statistically there is study after study that visualization and positive enforcement will create sucess in business then skepticism?”

    -what the what the what? SOURCE please.

  10. KayNotMary

    “I’m not a consultant nor do I care if Mary Kay is a ‘scam’ or not.”

    This person starts off with an obvious lie.

    “No one can make you feel a certain way…”

    So this website didn’t make you feel annoyed, you did that to yourself.

    “If you really wanted Mary Kay to sink and fall you would not show any attention to the company at all.”

    So, why didn’t you take your own advice and stay quiet instead of wasting your time writing to this website? Way to be a hypocrite.

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