Don’t Blame Mary Kay Because You’re a Failure

The usual “blame the victim” mentality is alive and well. Yes, women who fail at MK (or any other MLM) are victims because they are lied to. They are recruited with representations that this is an actual business. No it’s not. It’s a grand scam. They are swindled into purchasing products. They are conned into spending money on events that are supposed to help them success. But the recruiters know that almost everyone fails because that’s just how the MLM scam works.

I find all your posts very amusing.

A lot of the women in here seem to be having a big hangup about Mary kay and about the way that Mary Kay does business. The REAL PROBLEM is YOU. You are the ones who are all at fault because you didn’t make any money in Mary Kay. It’s nobody else’s fault. It’s not your director’s fault and it’s not the company’s fault. You make your business become what you put into it. It seems like a lot of women in here are in denial that the REAL PROBLEM is themselves and NOT Mary Kay. A lot of the Mary Kay consultants are not trained or do not want to be trained properly.

And It seems that a lot of the women that post in this website have no clue about on how to run a business and what it takes to run a business. You need to be persistent and to work the Mary Kay business correctly in order to make real money in it. I come to a conclusion that a lot of the women in here are bitching and moaning that they have been unsuccessful because they have NOT worked their Mary Kay business they way that they are supposed to.

All of you women are in DENIAL. Face up to it. You are nothing but a bunch of losers. A bunch of incompetent people who don’t understand how to work the Mary Kay business to become successful. You are lazy and you don’t know how to follow directions to succeed. That’s why you are all in here bitching and moaning and bashing Mary Kay.

Let me all tell you something that you need to get thru your thick skulls. There are MANY successful women who are currently doing Mary Kay that are making a very good income. And a lot of these successful Mary Kay consultants and Directors have purchased things like houses and investment properties from their Mary Kay income. They make money becasue they work the business the right way. They don’t slack off like the people who come into this website and complain.

All the women on this website who are bashing Mary Kay are nothing but a bunch of losers. Yes, that’s right. You are all a bunch of losers who don’t know anything about how to structure and run a business to become successful. You like to bash Mary Kay because you are not successful or because you have not been successful as a Mary Kay consultant or as a director.

A lot of Mary Kay consultants and directors don’t make any money in this business because they don’t do $hit to build their business. They don’t follow up, they don’t make the phone calls that they are supposed to do and they just don’t have any business plan.

These are the main REAL REASONS why all of you misfits who come into this website bash Mary Kay. Face it. You are all in denial and it’s causing you to be very negative towards Mary Kay.

Get with the program! Either go get a job for $9 – $10 an hour or become your own boss and work the Mary Kay business the right way and make a lot of money. And don’t blame Mary Kay for being a failure.

22 Comments

  1. Lazy Gardens

    Why is the choice always between low paying menial jobs or oodles of money in their MLM? “Either go get a job for $9 – $10 an hour or become your own boss and work the Mary Kay business the right way and make a lot of money.”

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    1. MLM Husband

      Psychology and demographics? If you are capable of getting a good paying job and know it, would you risk your livelihood on Mary Kay? You might look at it as a lottery ticket, meaning I could do this on the side and if it takes off I hit the jackpot.

      But other than that, they are targeting stay at home moms and those already in low paying jobs trying to move up. When you don’t think you have much to offer to get a good paying job, these tactics are attractive. They present it as a system to success if you follow the plan, and if you don’t it’s your fault you are not a success.

  2. Kristen

    Dear OP,
    Do you also blame…
    Romance scam victims for trusting in humanity?
    kidnap victims for not trying harder to escape?

    Though people can try to protect themselves from being scammed, the real blame lies with the perpetrator. Yes, Mary Kay is a perpetrator. Just ask 99% of those who beelieved, worked their tails off (or not), and followed, to the letter, all the training Mary Kay offered, but lost money. The remaining 1% of MK might be making the $9-10 per hour you referred to.

    The women you mentioned who bought houses and investment properties were trained to tell you that to convince you it’s possible. Do you have factual proof that they paid for these with Mary Kay income or do you just beelieve them?

    You need to blame us for our failures to feel safe that this won’t happen to you. News flash: it already has.

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  3. Neverpink

    I for one am a proud never-MLMer. I’ve never been in Mary Kay. I come here to educate myself since Mary Kay targets women like me.

    I have a stable career, stable income, PTO, 401k, health insurance and weekends off. I don’t have to hassle and harass women to hold “parties” or “classes” with me. MK women aren’t even trained in skincare and aren’t allowed to touch people’s faces. At best, it’s a kitschy sales pitch. It’s not a class. It’s not a “party”.

    I don’t have to worry about quotas (because MK DOES have quotas, whether you want to admit it or not), I don’t have to harass my “team” to buy more product just to make said quota. I don’t have to wear ugly suits. I can, and do, wear what I want! PANTS!

    MK is old, backwards and a scam. Sorry hun, this “misfit” isn’t falling for it.

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  4. nomoremlm4me

    I work for my church (where you will never get rich lol), and I make a whole lot more than $9-$10/hour. At a church! I also have PTO, 401K, amazing health care, etc. For a sales director to make what I make after all my benefits, she would basically have to work 24/7/365, and she probably still couldn’t do it on a consistent basis. I will keep my job, thank you very much.

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  5. AnonyMouse

    “And It seems that a lot of the women that post in this website have no clue about on how to run a business and what it takes to run a business.”

    In all actuality, neither do you, since your Mary Kay “business” is not actually your own business. You are, in legal terms, an independent contractor. Part of the grand MLM scam is that you are actually LESS than an independent contractor, since you do not have the same legal protections as a typical independent contractor. Mary Kay Inc. could decide to terminate your contract at any time for any reason and you would be left with no legal recourse and no residual income from the “business” you built. Try to take them to court, you will lose, because the contract is the contract, and you signed it.

    “Yes, that’s right. You are all a bunch of losers who don’t know anything about how to structure and run a business to become successful.”

    Excuse me while I take my loser a$$ to my office at my business that I own and show this to my employees so we can laugh together.

    In conclusion, I hope you feel better after your little rant. Now that you’ve calmed down, go back and read what you wrote. Let your words sink in. Realize that this kind of toxicity is one of the reasons why I walked away from Mary Kay and all MLMs. You brand anyone who has ever not been successful at Mary Kay “lazy” and “losers”. It’s statistically impossible for that many people to just be lazy losers who are bad at following directions. Your organization is supposed to uplift and empower women. Does that mean ALL women or just women who blindly follow The Mary Kay Way? What does it say about your beloved company that so many women who walk away from it are so burdened by shame and guilt and a sense of failure that it paralyzes them for years? That’s disgusting. It’s toxic. And you are perpetuating it. Wake up.

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  6. NayMKWay

    You can run your Mary Kay business perfectly and you’ll most likely still lose money because no one can overcome the cruel reality of MLM math. It’s very simple:

    In any economic system where there are many times more sellers than the market will bear, the majority of sellers will fail to earn a profit.

    And the corollary is why MLM is a scam:

    Unlimited chain recruiting inevitably results in many times more sellers than the market will bear.

    MLM apologists tickle the ears of true believers with pithy combacks that make zero sense, like “More people are born every day,” or “GE still sells refrigerators even though nearly everyone already has one.” Population growth cannot keep pace with unrestrained recruitment, and GE is not MLM. Sheesh, try harder, scammers.

    After looking at a few MLM disclosure statements and doing some simple math, I concluded that the average MLM had sales of about $1,000 to $2,000 per associate per year. Just this week, Tracy shared the report by Robert Fitzpatrick, and his (far more rigorous) research yielded the same result: 21 companies totalling 5 million reps had $10 billion in retail sales: $2,000 per rep per year. This lousy number is even lousier when it’s distributed as unevenly as it is in every single MLM: a very few do well, a few more do moderately well or break even, and the vast majority lose money. Put it this way: at $2,000 average per rep, if one rep gets $200,000, 100 have to average zero. (The above analysis ignores expenses, the same as disclosure statements do. Actual numbers are even worse.)

    That $2k per year number isn’t just the average over many MLM companies; it’s typical of every MLM company. My theory is that a higher average increases the recruitment rate and a lower average increases the dropout rate, until a steady state of misery is reached.

    A few get rich, a few more get by, and most lose money. As Tracy has said, it’s built right into the system. And people like this writer are always ready to blame the victims anyway. That also is built right into the system.

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  7. Colleen

    I own a small business. Successful for 13 years so far.

    I also have a part time job that I took because it was too awesome to pass up. I even get insurance, 401K and PTO on top of my $22/hr.

    Not only am I successful, I’m incredibly fulfilled.

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  8. Char

    “All the women on this website who are bashing Mary Kay are nothing but a bunch of losers. Yes, that’s right. You are all a bunch of losers who don’t know anything about how to structure and run a business to become successful. You like to bash Mary Kay because you are not successful or because you have not been successful as a Mary Kay consultant or as a director.”—

    I like to match the tone of these Friday folly fanatics, so forgive me if I come across offensive or snobby today. (It’s on purpose; and plus, I’m good at it. ;-)) Being successful in life isn’t always about money; but for this post, I’m going to make it about money and status. Here goes:

    I find her entire email amusing.

    Picture it: I’m golfing at the club with real millionaires and billionaires. Imagine me saying that I know a lady who owns her own business…..as a “successful” Mary Kay consultant. I would be laughed out of the sand trap!!! The moral of this story is, “BIG FISH, SMALL, very small, POND”.

    Let’s talk about “denial”. Relatively speaking, even a MK Director is a big loser in real business life, especially when it comes to the money scale. Imagine what the real CEO of MKI, making millions, thinks of some silly “senior sales director”, buying makeup, and acting too big for her britches as a commission-based “opportunity” saleswoman. Heck, has she ever swung a golf club or attended a board meeting? And, don’t get me started on sharing a hotel room with three strangers.

    So no, I didn’t “fail” at being a Mary Kay consultant, as being ANY level of consultant would be embarrassing, for it screams low-class LOSER in certain demographics. And, wearing an ugly uniform is very blue collar. (Remember, I’m purposely matching her tone and attitude.)

    The author should remember that most things in life are relative. And, never make assumptions!

    Do you think she still wants to talk about losers now?

    NOTE: My above post may, or may not, be personally true. But I can assure you, personally, that a scenario like I mentioned most certainly is. I reiterate, I’m giving her a dose of her own, awful medicine!

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  9. Juliet

    Has the elusive Schedule C ever materialized in a submission to Pink Truth? I, for one, would love to see someone less than an NSD produce one that shows well over $100,000, and ideally consecutive years, although maybe I am shooting too low even with 100k. It seems to be a gobble the money sort of business.

  10. Char

    “A lot of the Mary Kay consultants are not trained or do not want to be trained properly…….You need to be persistent and to work the Mary Kay business correctly in order to make real money in it…..because they have NOT worked their Mary Kay business they way that they are supposed to…..who don’t understand how to work the Mary Kay business to become successful…..you don’t know how to follow directions to succeed…..They make money becasue they work the business the right way….don’t make any money in this business because they don’t do $hit to build their business….become your own boss and work the Mary Kay business the right way and make a lot of money.”

    What is this “right way” that you speak of to “build” your business and make lots of money? I’m asking for a friend who happens to work for the FTC.

  11. BestDecision

    My Senior sacrifices 3 nights/week to build her unit along with answering her phone 7 days/week and working her business at least 5 of those.

    How is it my career isn’t “balanced” when I work my hours and then don’t have to answer my phone, check email, worry about reports, fret over who’s keeping their word, or get dress in full makeup to run a quick errand during my off hours?

    Or, how is MK the more harmonious choice when I don’t have to schedule my vacation around Career Conference, Seminar, Fall Retreat, or Leadership? Or month-ends?

    My Senior didn’t even get $600 in new Consultant production from those her unit added last month. Do you really think I’m dumb enough to believe your attempts to raise MK up on a pedestal?

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  12. BestDecision

    The new Applause says it all! The numbers don’t lie, right? Here’s a few November results:

    —Only 8 NSDs are on target for Inner Circle. Normal is about 13.
    —Only 91 NSDs in the entire country had commission checks over $10,000. So much for “executive income”!
    —The infamous Chelsea Adkins you all post about ordered just under $10,000 wholesale in November. Not sold, but ordered.
    —Only 14 units in the entire country added 20 or more new unit members. That used to be pretty attainable for even Premier Club units. Guess the $30 offer has run out of steam.
    —Only 9 people in the entire country earned their Grand Achiever car in November. 2 were Directors.
    —VERY REVEALING! READ CAREFULLY! Among the monthly Go Give Award winners is a Director that’s been in for 47 years and only has 4 offspring, which means no NSD retirement for her. Another has been in for 30 years and has 7. Another for 26 years and only had a $6,000 commission check. (Don’t forget taxes and expenses will be deducted from that profit.)
    —Pages 2-8 are full of overwhelming details on their new retinol product. I would NOT be excited to sell it to anyone, and I bet the returns are going to be horrendous. $120/set with a use-up rate of 4-5 months and that EXPIRES IN 6 MONTHS. There’s an entire list of products customers cannot use while using the retinol set, which means lower usage and reorders of those items for the sales force.

    Glad to be out? Me, too. Career Conference is online in late April, and I’m betting they won’t have the March-June ordering surge we all experienced. Enjoy your Monday night away from a unit meeting!

    1. Enorth

      “new retinol product”

      Sample texts on page 6. Excerpts:

      — TEXT 1: “ I’ve selected a special group of customers to participate in a test panel… ” (Why is a test panel needed? Is the IBC not sure the product works?)

      — TEXT 2: “…I am preordering the sets for my test panel, so with your exclusive discount, your total … would be _______________.” (What exclusive discount? The product just launched, and the IBC is encouraged to sell at a discount? There goes her profit.)

      1. BestDecision

        Bingo! Applause posts the facts, but then common sense shows it’s less profit than that. The product replacement department is going to be VERY busy with this. But, that’s if they sell them!

        1. Enorth

          And these sample texts are from MK Corp itself! Suggesting IBCs give “exclusive discounts.” Sheesh.

          As for the retinol product:
          (1 fl. oz.) 0.5% MK retinol = $78
          (1 fl. oz.) 1.0% Paula’s Choice retinol = $58 (and I don’t have to buy an additional $50 product to “calm and restore” my skin.)

    2. Mountaineer95

      These Friday critics never, ever offer one bit of evidence to substantiate their claims; yet here we are, using MARY KAY’S OWN NUMBERS from Applause to back up our (correct) claims about the lack of income being made. It drives me batty when they do this!

      And the fact that MK and its directors will sign up anyone with a face, regardless of that person’s actual business capabilities, shows just how much having a professional, successful business mindset matters to them…it doesn’t.

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