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Stop Blaming Mary Kay

I’ve never felt a “need” to have haters, and I had no idea that Mary Kay needed haters. Glad we can help!

With my MK business, I don’t have a store at all, yet I seem to do just fine with it. I have several customeers who are out of state even. I make enough in my business to pay all of my bills and have extra cash for whatever.

MK is also a numbers game. You can’t get discouraged or take it personal when someone tells you no, you just have to play out the numbers. I will admit, direct sales of any kind isn’t for everybody, but why try to turn everyone away? I’ve come across this site and pink truth several times by researching info to help me grow my business, and all I read is negativity. If you spend as much time being positive about something as you do at being negative, you could possibly change.the world.

Everyone needs haters, and if someone is hating on you or what you do, then you are obviously doing something right! I’m sorry that MK didn’t work out for ya’ll, and I’m sorry that you feel you have lost friends bc of it, but don’t blame the company as a whole, or even the vast majority of the consultants and directors.

Just like at any store, you run into people who are inconsiderate, and pushy, and when that happens, what do you do? I’m willing to put $$ on the fact that you either go to another store, or you don’t go to their register. Same thing with MK, you don’t like the consultant for whatever reason, then talk about your concerns with her, and if that doesn’t work, then find another consultant. I’m sure that if you tell the new consultant your concerns, she will damn near leap mountains to make you a happier customer.

Yes, MK may have a turnover rate, but look at the resturant business, or even retail stores, they have huge turnover rates too. All of my customers and even team members are happy with MK as a product and as a company. But like it’s been said several times before, anything worth having is worth working for. And fact is, I know several women personally who are millionaires who made their millions starting off as a consultant just like me.

If your director pushes you, it’s only to help you achieve your goals. She has her own goals for herself and as a unit. The only way to achieve any goal is to work toward it, no matter what it is. And any business you may start, whether it be MK, resturant, or even mechanics, you have to work at it to keep it going.

Also, to truly see any significant profit, no matter what the business is, you have to give it a min of 3-5 years. If you quit before then, then you just gave up. So, stop blaming MK, or even consultants for your misfortune, we didn’t hold a gun to your head and make you do anything you didn’t want to do. It’s pretty funny tho how our marketing plan is taught in top universities including Harvard! Think about it, why would it be taught if it didn’t work?

32 Comments

  1. Kristen

    I’m glad you don’t have inventory. Read the information here about Harvard. It’s not true. Top universities are not actually known for promoting business models that are scams or that 99% of people fail at. You’ve been had, just like I was. I also believed the women who said they were millionaires. I didn’t know that Mary Kay teaches directors to “fake it” so others will be drawn in and join in hopes that they too can be successful. I hope you’ll come back after you realize that you can’t make money in an MLM. I’m sorry but you are not paying all your bills selling Mary Kay. Please don’t insult my intelligence.

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  2. AnonyMouse

    It’s pretty funny though how the Mary Kay business plan is actually NOT taught at Harvard. A couple of case studies have been done on Mary Kay by individuals from Harvard, but that is nowhere near the same thing as being “taught”.

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      1. Destiny Angel

        I’ve been asking them where it is on the syllabus and which school it was taught in. I mean being taught in Harvard Law as a case study, a la Legally Blonde child visitation study or being taught at Harvard Business as to why so few people make money.

        They never know. I feel that if it is so important that your company is held up as an example, then the people bragging about it should be able to back up their claims. Of course, we know why they can’t.

  3. Char

    “If you spend as much time being positive about something as you do at being negative, you could possibly change.the world.” —

    She obviously didn’t read my positive posts this week. I posted what an accomplishment it was to be a top liar in the scamming business. I gave credit for how hard MLMers work at scamming others for their own profit. It’s certainly not easy to keep up with all the lies; that takes a special talent and skill! And….

    We ARE changing the world. We are attempting to rid the world of MLM scams and their perpetrators. We’ve had a lot of success and will hopefully have more. Tracy has done a phenomenal job providing the opportunity to share the news and educate others. Women just this week posted how they LOVE not being involved with the Mary Kay scam anymore.

    And with that awesome positivity, I put my my mini-theme to rest. Happy Friday!

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  4. Kate

    I’m so relieved you brought up the tried-and-true “gun to your head” argument! There’s a new, wonderfully composed piece by Raisinberry about that particular argument you need to read.
    Pink Truth has changed the world- positively- for hundreds of women already.

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  5. NayMKWay

    If your director pushes you, it’s only to help you achieve your goals. She has her own goals for herself and as a unit.

    Yeah no, directors push their teams to order product they don’t need and won’t sell so they can claw their way up the pyramid. And that’s not just a few bad apples; it’s nearly everyone.

    Also, to truly see any significant profit, no matter what the business is, you have to give it a min of 3-5 years.

    Who told you that, your director? I’ll bet she waited until after you signed up to pass on that pearl of wisdom, because otherwise you’d have never signed up. And please, show me where MK Corp puts that warning in their marketing material? They don’t, of course. Instead, they say “Executive income for part-time hours!”

    The fact is, a franchise-style business should be in the black almost immediately. 3-5 years of losses are only expected in start-ups creating a new product or developing a market from scratch. Mary Kay does all the product development and has built-in name recognition; the only reason most IBCs suffer losses is because it’s a flawed system, and an exploitive one at that. The reason we blame Mary Kay is because it’s THEIR FAULT.

    It’s pretty funny tho how our marketing plan is taught in top universities including Harvard! Think about it, why would it be taught if it didn’t work?

    It’s pretty funny how you trot out that lie, isn’t it? Maybe that’s because you don’t know any better. The truth is the opposite: MLM is only mentioned in business schools as an example of how gawdawful MOMs are. I read a first-person account of just that: a Cadillac driver’s son came home from college and told her what he had learned there about MLMs like Mary Kay. Together they went through her tax records and she was stunned to learn she had netted less than $1,000 per year for 20 years. After she recovered from the emotional trauma, she immediately got the heck out of MK, which she called her “best decision.”

    So yeah, we blame Mary Kay. Some of us even hate Mary Kay. But it’s not because we’re jealous haters, it’s because Mary Kay hurts people for their own gain, and that’s wrong.

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  6. Pinkwink

    So curious what “bills” skews paying with her Mary Kay income. The minimum on her credit card? Her cell phone bill? Gas for her car every now and then? No way do I believe Mark Kay is supporting her.

  7. Misscapulet

    “Everyone needs haters, and if someone is hating on you or what you do, then you are obviously doing something right! ”

    Per this pearl of wisdom, Osama bin Laden must have been awesome.

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    1. Char

      “Everyone needs haters, and if someone is hating on you or what you do, then you are obviously doing something right! ” —

      I hate child abusers, so they are obviously doing something right.

      Do they not understand what they are saying?! Or, are they just robots willing to repeat whatever the cult leaders tell them?

  8. cindylu

    So telling our stories is hating or raining on their parade. Being honest is somehow irrelevant. Sorry Direct Sales in MK is not only difficult, it’s pretty much impossible these days. It’s not negative to tell it like it is. Erin Brokovitch was an environmental activist trying to save lives. We are simply trying to prevent other women from getting hurt. (Just like Erin). If warning others against a mlm scam is bothersome, than so be it. We’re not negative. We’re the canary in the coal mine.

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  9. Mountaineer95

    “I know several women personally who are millionaires who made their millions starting off as a consultant just like me.”

    Just…whatever.

    And why is it always entry-level consultants who write these love letters? Why is it never EVER a director? Because directors know the truth: they’re NOT millionaires, their MK “business” is NOT paying all of their bills, and if not for lines of credit and their husbands’ incomes they’d be living in a cave somewhere.

    As Raisinberry said the other day, once you’ve gone through DIQ and have a career car, THEN you can come tell us how wrong we are.

    1. D Murphy

      Exactly, directors know the truth! Question, does having a “business” with MK make consultants eligible for the govt PPP loans? I know of a couple of consultants who received one. If not, I’m reporting them.

    2. NayMKWay

      Right on, Mountaineer95. No Directors ever write in to extoll the greatness of the MK “business,” but we’ve heard of plenty of brand-new Directors who quit immediately after completing DIQ. Hmmmmm. It’s almost as if reaching directorship opened their eyes to something—dare I say it?—negative.

      Also of note: in a decade and a half, no one has submitted a Schedule C to prove to us how wrong we are. I remember when Tracy posted some emails from a kaybot’s SO claiming his girl was making the big bucks selling Mary Kay. Paying the mortgage, new car, yada yada. When Tracy politely requested some documentary proof of his claims, all he had to offer was evasion. And rudeness. Evasion and rudeness. And profanity. Escalating levels of profanity as the conversation went on. Evasion, rudeness, and profanity, but no proof. We’re still waiting.

      1. BestDecision

        I didn’t smell anything wrong with MK until I was finishing DIQ and even more as a new Director, but I was too far in and with a lot to lose if I didn’t stick with it. Until you get that far, you have no idea how bad the numbers really are and how frequent cheating and lies are happening.

        Then, it’s a slow chipping away at your confidence and net income every month and every year until you finally have had enough.

        Not missing the virtual Career Conference fiasco, nor the push for ribbons and titles for Seminar!

        1. raisinberry

          ^^^^ This. None of the secrets of “find a way or make a way” are exposed to any IBC below DIQ. That is PRECISELY why no “top” Director ever does battle here on this site. They can’t even read Pinktruth because they have been told they will “lose their dream”. Kathy Helou called it “pink Porn” to make it a most disgusting prospect to any who venture near. And why? Because every DIQ and Director who is picking up the stench of how it’s done in MK, will be VALIDATED…the blinders come off the eyes…the suspicions realized.

    3. Mountaineer95

      I followed a few links here and ended up on a post from three years ago, and in it this FACT was reported (via MK Corp’s own numbers):

      “(In 2007) the company reported 700,000 consultants and 14,000 directors.” While that number is likely lower today, let’s say there are currently 12,000 directors (and this logic works even if there are as few as 10,000 current directors). When Applause (again, an MK Corp-created and approved document) comes out and lists the top -producing directors by commissions, and lists maybe 200 directors with the lowest having a paltry commission check that puts her squarely in a middle-income level, that means that the REST of those 12,000 or so directors are making less than that per month. Tracy has posted about this reality (using different issues of Applause, over different years) many times and yet not ONE MK fangirl here even mentions it or tries to prove it wrong. Because they can’t. If 10,000 plus DIRECTORS are making less than what a J.O.B. middle-management job with salary and health benefits earns, HOW does this or any other Friday Special IBC actually “know” many women in MK who are “millionaires”? Or even “Thousandaires”?

    1. NayMKWay

      A scene I’d like to see:

      Kaybot to new recruit: It’s a numbers game. Each “no” gets you that much closer to a “yes”!

      New recruit: Each “no”? But when you signed me up, you told me the products “flew off the shelf.” Were you lying to me?

      Kaybot: Um, no, not lying, exactly…just…hey! Look over there! (Runs away)

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