Facts, opinions, and the real story behind Mary Kay Cosmetics.

What Do We Say to People Reading Pink Truth?

Here’s another Facebook post from a private Mary Kay group called “Let’s Talk Pink.”  The misinformation amuses me. Isn’t that what we get accused of all the time? Giving out false information about Mary Kay? And yet they will give out false information about Pink Truth.

The cool thing is that just by them talking about us, more people will be curious and take a look. And we know the stories here are compelling and can change hearts and minds.

No, I was never a director. And thanks but I have plenty of initiative and critical thinking… which is why I have a very successful (real) business.


  1. Kristen

    We (on Pink Truth) were: “People that harass their customers, push for sales, call even after they’ve been told no…” because that is what Mary Kay instructed us to do. It wasn’t just one or two greedy directors. There are MK scripts that put the words in your mouth to ignore it when someone says no and continue to manipulate as long as possible until the person no longer wants to associate with you. I know these comments are a few years old, but Kaybots still dismiss our legitimate experiences as a “few bad/greedy directors”.


    This is what the ENTIRE Mary Kay organization teaches the consultants to do from day one. Can these women stop preaching that we are just a few isolated cases?????

    1. Cat Ballou

      They’ll never stop, because then they’d have to admit the truth. If MK was the fabulous opportunity they claim it is, they wouldn’t be out there endlessly recruiting to replace the consultants who are constantly quitting.

    2. Brainwashednomore

      I was taught no means not yet, to layer the conversations, to figure out their personality and family situation, to invite them to events, to call them for their birthday and give them discounts. Sounds like mk is teaching don’t respect boundaries and they just don’t realize that they want to be a part of mk.

      1. KaybotSibling

        Had this thought the other day: “no means not yet” is very manipulative to those who have mental health conditions that present manic episodes. I think part of this phrase may
        have been derived to target those people directly. I personally love and care about people who have manic episodes and they have a difficult time thinking rationally during them. They are 100% sure about their feelings and opinions when they are thinking normally but doubt themselves and can be easily swayed when they are manic. This phrase is particularly disgusting in my opinion.

    1. Mountaineer95

      Yeah, this Lori Ramsey woman sounds like a real gem. It would be nice to have her MK figures, ie what she has bought in production and where she sits on the scale of “$200 per year in estimated sales” up to “a Cadillac director making minimum wage”. I doubt she’s a Caddy director.

  2. Cat Ballou


    People who own real businesses want to understand anything that may adversely affect their business, particularly the experiences of those who failed in similar businesses. But by all means, Miss Kaybot, warn me that failure comes from a lack of critical thinking skills by telling me not to consider all experiences and points of view.

    1. Mountaineer95

      As someone who owned a legit brick-and-mortar, I totally agree. Putting our fingers in our ears and singing “nana nana I can’t hear you” was not a smart business maneuver and we didn’t do it.

  3. NayMKWay

    Sad how many if them refer to “my Mary Kay business.” You do not have a business. It’s time to wake up and smell the falsehoods, people. Your so-called “business” is just a commissioned sales gig with no benefits, no job security, and lousy pay. Take a good look at how hard you’re working versus how much you’re making. Are the numbers what you were told to expect? No? Then who’s the one lying to you?

    Speaking of lies, how about the whoppers being passed around in that group? If you don’t know something, it’s not OK to make stuff up. That could be actionable as libel. (No, not slander. Slander is spoken; libel is written.)

  4. Destiny Angel

    Lisette “If you’re thinking of going to college, you ask a graduate, not a drop-out…heard that on a DIQ CD”

    What’s wrong with asking both? Especially if the drop -out rate is higher than should be expected.
    If it takes 15 years to get a PhD and only 0.05% of students were getting to that level I’d be concerned.
    It takes 4 years to get a Masters and only 1.675% of students can manage that.
    Only 15.1% of students get their graduate and the other 83% either drop-out or fail.

    That wouldn’t be somewhere I’d want to study. Especially if I’m paying for the pleasure.


  5. BestDecision

    “Lack of initiative” and “drive”. Is that what my pink Cadillacs were? And all the unit meetings I attended and held? What about the weeks I gave up to fly to Dallas and not come away with any real education? So, the DECADE I devoted to being a Director wasn’t enough?

    Please. If they’re all so busy with their businesses, why do they have enough time to create a FB page or their own? And post on it?

    Denial doesn’t mean the facts aren’t happening.

  6. Cindylu

    It’s all just a dream. Sadly when you are living in a delusional pink bubble from the 1960’s, it’s truly unrealistic to expect it to work anymore. In 2021: No one wants to be exploited financially by friends etc. at silly make up parties. Once they see a huge credit card bill and no one interested in the MK products, then the wary ones quit. I read a great analogy that said: “Purchasing from an mlm is like buying a drink for an alcoholic.” The sooner women stop supporting these exploitive mlm’s the better. There is no control over the products and most women loath attending these meaningless, time wasting gatherings.

    1. Data Junkie

      “…it’s truly unrealistic to expect it to work anymore.”

      To be fair, it never worked. Unless you refer to the business model, which involves fooling customers into thinking they are business owners so you can get them to buy product at prices well above market value in quantities far beyond what they can ever use personally or realistically sell to their family and friends.

      In this sense, it still works…for MK corporate. But not so much for the customers who have been duped into believing they are part of the sales force.

  7. Brainwashednomore

    I was taught no means not yet, to layer the conversations, to figure out their personality and family situation, to invite them to events, to call them for their birthday and give them discounts. Sounds like mk is teaching don’t respect boundaries and they just don’t realize that they want to be a part of mk.

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