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This Will Be My Last Visit to Pink Truth

This is actually my first visit to this website and most assuredly my last. I did however have a few things to say. Whether or not they’re posted, that remains to be seen.

I’m intrigued at the rhetoric and anger on this site. In my humble opinion it seems a shame. There is a great deal of passion and excitement expressed here. I hope you will all find peace and solace and can find a way to channel this powerful energy in a more positive way, in some other aspect of your life.

Yes, I am a Mary Kay consultant. I have a college degree and I am a high school social studies teacher. Most of the women I am priviledged to know and work with in my National Area are also college educated and not by any means in a “fog.”

Listen, you all have your individual experiences with Mary Kay that for one reason or another lead you here. I think it’s naive for anyone, whether a MK faithful or otherwise to believe any international company doesn’t suffer it’s abuses. No company, coporation or business for that matter is perfect and free from criticism. In addition, were talking about the sales industry. This type of door-to-door technique has been around for centuries. It’s not a new concept.

Here at Pink Truth It’s all the same, “the evil MLM.” I mean come on with some of this stuff you guys are complaining about. Every company whose main fiscal focus is centered around retail sales, tirelessly trains it’s salesforce to sell the product to make it sound like the best thing to hit the market and to entice the public away from the competitor. You call it misleading, I think that’s really subjetive. If we are to follow the logic of Pink Truth, then turn off your TVs, your radios, don’t read another newspaper or magazine ad! I mean seriously we are a nation of consumerism. The public has to be able to filter out what it does and does not believe.

Every skin care company from Esteé Lauder and Revlon to Mary Kay and Benefit makes various claims about their products. Are they all real? Who knows. If you believe it though and are happy, then ignorance is bliss right? Isn’t that what we really trust in everyday when making a purchase? We’re not little scientists with some at home lab that can break down the moleculer structure of Pine Sol and figure out definatively it’s better or worse than Lysol.

Let’s talk about “recruting.” I served in the US Navy for 6 years. Do you think the US military has ever gone out into the general public and said to the youth of America and their parents, “Hey join the Army we’re so desperate for bodies and I need you to join ASAP so I can make my quota this month and oh yeah, did I mention you’ll probaby die in war.” Be pratical people! Any and every headhunter or talent scout in America is going to give “the pitch” to a potential new hire.

If you open up your own flower delivery service are you going to put yourself out there publically and proclaim, “Well, I really don’t know the business that well, but hey I think I can do a good job for you. I really haven’t made a ton of money yet and really have no staff, but you can count on me.”?Be serious! You’re going to puff up your business and your accomplishments.

I don’t think anyone here is a loser, nor do I believe the fine women who weren’t successful with this venture didn’t work hard enough. My mother always said, “If we knew how to be better we would be, if we knew how to do better we would.”

All I would like to leave you with is this, Mary Kay has it’s flaws and it’s shady people, that’s life. What facet of life isn’t filled with a number of creeps? Jobs, schools, athletics, showbiz, corporations, governments, chrurchs, temples, you name it they’re everywhere. You can’t avoid them. What you can do is rise above it and be an example for others to follow. As a political activist I would love to see all this anger and passion directed toward real issues and real problems. If “busting big business” is your thing aren’t there bigger fish to fry? How about the oil industry? I was intrigued by a posting where this women was bragging about her nice shiny SUV and why would she take that stupid MK car. I drive a really nice car too, but that extra money in my pocket sure sounds nice. If I win and lose it, oh well that’s life baby! You can’t take it with you anyway, so lighten up a little ladies, huh?

To the originator of this webite, take care because you also tread on dangerous ground. You may find you’re not so slick after all! I wouldn’t be shocked to read about the lawsuit confronting you someday soon!

29 Comments

  1. Destiny Angel

    “Let’s talk about “recruting.” I served in the US Navy for 6 years. Do you think the US military has ever gone out into the general public and said to the youth of America and their parents, “Hey join the Army we’re so desperate for bodies and I need you to join ASAP so I can make my quota this month and oh yeah, did I mention you’ll probaby die in war.” Be pratical people! Any and every headhunter or talent scout in America is going to give “the pitch” to a potential new hire.”

    Some-one’s never heard of conscription…
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States

    1. Eyes Wide Open

      This is why education today is in such a state of disarray. Zero critical thinking skills. Zero self-reflection. Tons of boastful pushing of a single thought narrative. Too bad this MK’er missed those skill development courses on her way to a degree in education and Social Studies. After all, isn’t Social Studies this:
      Components of Social Studies
      Geography.
      History.
      Culture and Society.
      Civics and Government.
      Economics.

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      1. Mountaineer95

        Also I’m concerned that a “college educated high school teacher” doesn’t know the difference between “its” and “it’s”. Here’s a hint, lady: “it’s” is ALWAYS a contraction of “it is”, and NEVER possessive. Oh and lol at “priviledged”.

        I wonder why she didn’t channel the energy it took to compose her comments into addressing the actual factual NUMBERS about how little the directors who have $10,000 in production actually make as was broken down in the post just before this one? Why does no PT critic EVER attempt to challenge these numbers? Or any numbers presented here?

  2. pinkpeace

    “Every company whose main fiscal focus is centered around retail sales, tirelessly trains it’s [sic] salesforce to sell the product to make it sound like the best thing to hit the market and to entice the public away from the competitor. You call it misleading, I think that’s really subjetive [sic].”

    Can anyone seriously claim that Mary Kay cares about selling product to an end consumer? Nope – sales to consumers aren’t even tracked. All MK cares about is star orders from new consultants which means a relentless hunt for new recruits.

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    1. Kristen

      Pinkpeace-that’s exactly what I was thinking. Here we go again with the mistaken belief that Mary Kay can be compared to an actual cosmetics company with the goal of selling a product to an end consumer.

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  3. AnonyMouse

    Yeeeeeeaaaaah you can’t sue someone for saying things you don’t like. There are no lies here. Mary Kay Inc., on the other hand, could very well be fined by the FTC for being in direct violation of the Direct Selling Rule. So. Go nuts.

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  4. Data Junkie

    Some questions for you OP…of the total MK product purchased by you and via your downline, what percentage was actually purchased by customers who are not reps for Mary Kay?

    If you don’t track this, you are clearly not in the business of retailing MK products. I would argue that you are, instead, in the business of recruiting new reps and then filling their homes with as much product as possible…much more product they can never sell or use personally…all to the benefit of MK and you, but not them.

    What you “track” reveals the nature (and priority) of your business. So, OP, what is it you actually do “track” in your MK “business”?

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  5. lulutoo

    Good thing she’s not an English teacher! She used the wrong ‘its’ in a sentence and also spelled ‘definitively’ wrong. Probably lots more mistakes but iI skimmed it quickly.

  6. Kristen

    “I don’t think anyone here is a loser, nor do I believe the fine women who weren’t successful with this venture didn’t work hard enough. My mother always said, “If we knew how to be better we would be, if we knew how to do better we would.”

    Well thanks so much for your condescending little approval. We poor women on Pink Truth. We just don’t know how to be or do any better. Lady, it’s you that doesn’t know better. At least she didn’t call us “loosers”.

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      1. Mountaineer95

        As a naturally clumsy person (neurological disorder to blame for that), I STILL have never managed to stumble upon PT. All of the ladies who have should get checked out pronto.

  7. Destiny Angel

    “I was intrigued by a posting where this women was bragging about her nice shiny SUV and why would she take that stupid MK car. I drive a really nice car too, but that extra money in my pocket sure sounds nice. If I win and lose it, oh well that’s life baby! You can’t take it with you anyway, so lighten up a little ladies, huh?”

    Like Priceless Chels, I bought a new to me car. I own it outright. I do not have a lease. I do not have to worry at the end of each month that I have fallen behind on my supposed free car .

    I do not have to hassle family , friends or strangers in order to get the extra orders in order to fulfill my obligations. If I’m a MK car driver, I need to appear like Caesar’s wife. Ignore the whole Harlequinade of orders, front-loading and fake recruits.

    I’m light, I’m not taking it with me. My next car will be a Smart car. Since it won’t needed to ferry around my children, their friends, furniture and such like. I’m out-growing the SUV season of life. And I am so looking forward to not being needed as a taxi-cab/moving vehicle/bus driver.

  8. NayMKWay

    I’m not sure where this writer got the notion we all want to take down “big business.” Tracy has made it clear she doesn’t even want to take down Mary Kay. What offends us is the abuses.

    Sure, most companies, like people, stretch the truth sometimes. Mary Kay, however, survives on bald-faced LIES. “Executive pay for part-time work” is a good example, in particular when the recruit is later told they only failed because they didn’t work hard enough (no matter how much effort was put in).

    “Free car!” is a complete falsehood also, since it is offered in lieu of pay. The affiliate is further obligated to chip in on outrageously overpriced insurance from a single provider Mary Kay has a sweetheart deal with. How is that “free”?

    The reason we speak out against MLM is because it is a fundamentally exploitative business model. It’s a scam. People are roped in with promises ranging from earning a little extra money to easy riches when in fact 99% lose money. That is not hyperbole; it is an established fact attested to by multiple economists. See, for example, the reports by the late Dr. Jon Taylor on the ftc.gov website or the works of Robert FitzPatrick of Pyrid Scheme Alert.

    You say you’re an activist. I put it to you that if you diligently study the MLM business model, you will be just as outraged by it as we are.

  9. BestDecision

    Lord, have mercy on us. Our kids are being taught by someone who repeatedly uses “it’s” incorrectly. She probably teaches them to use alternative pronouns and not the Pledge of Allegiance, too.

    First, it’s Dacia. Now it’s another teacher in MK so far in the fog that she actually tells us that we weren’t lazy but that it’s okay to not be successful despite a lot of effort.

    While you have a Holiday Open House this month, I’ll be over here enjoying Fall and the current season for what it is. Enjoy picking out your cheap Star Consultant prize!

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  10. Pinkiu

    I don’t believe that was to be her last visit here. Once she realizes that it was a front page story, the temptation to read the replies will most likely be too strong to resist.

    I know from past experience that having your beliefs challenged is emotionally tough. I faced that in the boards years ago when I first joined. But it was those challenges to my MK beliefs that caused me to reevaluate them. Slowly, the pink fog lifted and I became a Truther.

  11. Cindylu

    I’ve already found peace and solace. I was able to retire early and be there for my children. Once MK and my director did nothing for me when I became ill, I widened up and realized the truth. MK with its “Faith, Family, Career, Go Give and female empowerment has no credibility. There is no plan when a consultant or Director gets really sick. No one helps with product sitting on shelves. No one sends get well cards or visits you. Sad really that once I became unable to truly sell or recruit due to illness, my Director etc. avoided me. The best thing I ever did was return the product and end being exploited. My SD 25 years later is still just a SD. Recently mlm’s have exploited women during this shut down. Where can you sell or recruit? Not at malls, not by phone with call screening and whenever I see a silly mlm party I let the hostess know the down side of these mlm’s. This teacher may believe we’re negative. She’s unrealistic. Like most whistle blowers: exposing senior abuse, child abuse, those who pollute etc. what PT does is very responsible. We are confident, caring, thoughtful and compassionate individuals. The many years of real experience are a positive force to protect and heal women who have been ruined by mlm’s.

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