1. “My arguments are backed up not by what I say but by results. ”

   Anecdote does not equal data. Sorry but that’s a fact. So basically this man’s argument is based on a single biased data point. With some added mansplaining and victim blaming.

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2. Lolololololol.

   (Sometimes people, with such little understanding and knowledge, are just not worth the effort.)

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3. Tracy, I do love Friday critics. Essentially all his arguments (like most of the critics) are put to rest with the info already on the “Mary Kay Facts” dropdown menu.

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4. “if you crunch the numbers…”

   No, u.

   Crunch the numbers: Corporate annual sales divided by the number of reps is about $1,000 to $2,000.

   Crunch the numbers: The minimum a rep has to BUY (not sell) to remain active is about $1,000 per year.

   Therefore: The average rep is doing what your wife is doing: buying enough to stay active and making pocket change at best. Yet Mary Kay insists it offers executive pay for part time hours. Clearly, that is mathematically impossible. The market simply is not there.

   Crunch the numbers, because they back up our claims, not yours. I hope you and your wife figure that out sooner rather than later.

   Mary Kay lies about their so-called opportunity, just as they lie about not being MLM. MLM business model == MLM company.

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5. for putting in a few hours a week…averaged out it’s $25-32/hr for her effort… I can live with that… She’s not in it to get rich… she’s a stay at home mom, who makes a little money doing girlfriend time… and she’s going to build a team of people who have the same focus.

   So she’s taking home about $75-100/week. But how much inventory is sitting in the closet that she needs to pay off?

   And i love the “she’s GOING to build a team.” Uh huh. Well she wont make money on them if theyre all doing the same as she is.

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6. “and she’s going to build a team of people who have the same focus.

   You hate MLM’s… that’s fine… this is not one. ”

   Dude, you’ve literally explained what an MLM is while denying MK isn’t one.

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7. “Do women buy skincare and makeup…yep… You have no experience in selling the product apparently and therefore have no clue as to what is possible…”

   This struck me as funny. After leaving MK, I began to work as a makeup artist for Dior, and later for Chanel. Let me tell YOU about women buying skincare and makeup! I often had days were one person bought $400 – $600 of product. They would say, “I’ll take everything.” I never had that happen in MK.

   It’s not that I didn’t have experience in selling MK products, it’s that women didn’t want the product! On top of that, you have to actually find the women to sell to. How does one do that in MK? Stalking the aisles of Target or the mall or the grocery store. How demeaning is that?

   Trust me, women who buy Dior or Chanel skincare or makeup understand the value, quality and prestige of those brands. MK is not in that market no matter how many times the SDs bring out that comparison chart and place themselves at that level. If I wasn’t good at selling the product, I could never have survived as a MUA in the prestige market.

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   • Yeah, does this dude actually think his wife can compete with Sephora?

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8. Bro Mary Kay is absolutely a MLM company. You’re funny.

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9. OMG your post just gave me flashbacks of buying all the Bobbi Brown Makeup at the Bloomingdales makeup counter in the early 2000’s… And you are exactly right.

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10. Have you ever asked yourself who’s buying it. I follow about 25 beauty YouTubers and have been for about 7yrs and out of all that time & on all those channels I have heard only 1 mention MK once. If it’s the #1 selling brand how come all these YouTubers with millions of viewers don’t regularly talk about the products and company?
    I’m just curious…

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11. It seems highly likely that this husband’s wife has not been in Mary Kay for very long. He hasn’t looked at the cost of carrying inventory. You have accumulating finance charges and you haven’t yet experienced the upcoming product changes or packaging changes that are designed to make her inventory obsolete and force her to purchase more. Your wife will have to discount those items to move them or worse, offer them as gifts or prizes so your ‘profit’ is even more diminished. Once your friends and family market dries up, it will be a struggle to find new customers and if she is recruiting her customers, her profit from sales will be even less. With this MLM, there is no steady income. Study this site–Pink Truth can show you how even Directors with pink Cadillacs make far from an executive income.

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12. Dude, you are so delusional that you might fall off your unicorn.

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    • White horse for a white knight…

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13. “The 10 people who routinely comment on your website”

    This husband must spend a lot of time on Pink Truth. Why?

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14. “My arguments are backed up not by what I say but by results.”
    Where’s your proof? Results?

    “Your right, my wife makes pocket change… ”
    Before or after her expenses?

    “for putting in a few hours a week…averaged out it’s $25-32/hr for her effort… I can live with that… ”
    Does that time include the driving, calling, harassing? How do you figure she makes that much? Is that what she told you? Be careful. There’s lots of mk teaching on manipulating husbands especially.

    “She’s not in it to get rich”
    I love this quote. I’ve heard it so often that it’s not about the money. But this is supposed to be a business. A losing business that you don’t own.

    “She’s a stay at home mom, who makes a little money doing girlfriend time…”
    yes hanging out with women that she’ll need to milk to get paid for anything. Time will tell in how much money you’ll lose in this mk business and the debt you’ll accumulate to make a little extra. The debt is not worth it.

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15. DRAG HIM

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16. So this website had only 10 readers?
    LOL what number do I fall in at?
    Another day, another man telling a woman she is wrong despite the fact he is wrong.

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    • There’s over 10 named users who have commented on this post. So yet another non-truth from this highly supportive MK husband.

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17. *coughcough Husband Unawareness Program coughcough*

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18. Obviously money is not a concern in this household. The condescending manner in which he refers to wife does not escape me. He is patronizing her for making only 32
    Per hr. He’s happy the little mrs (misses) has a hobby and out of his hair. After all she has the kids household etc. and does need to do something besides lounge around on his dime. 1960 is waving at this guy.

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19. Selling during girlfriend time…..how many girlfriends does she have, cause once they are ALL set up with the whole skincare and makeup regime —- then what? It won’t be much a week much less an hour. But forethought has no place in an MLM.

    When she STARTS building her team, she will START losing her customer base more than likely. And as noted above, if her TEAM is doing the same as her — and why would they do different when you generally associate with those similarly situated? — if her TEAM is situated as she is, wow, the girlfriend gang will be shared to some degree, AND she will be cannibalizing her own customer base. How much per hour……

    Yes, people buy skincare products and cosmetics. JUST NOT MARY KAY. The fact that your wife has fallen for the Kool Aid in the Sky doesn’t mean a significant amount of other people in your circle/world will also fall for it. They are probably running from her/you as we speak.

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20. He must teach “Mansplaining 101” he’s so adept at it. What a tool.

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21. I feel like he is adept at gaslighting and manipulating more than anything. Yes, nomoremlm4me, WHAT A TOOL.

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22. Oh, and now MK is selling “boosters”. I kid you not. They’re actually using that wording.

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