I love getting emails like this!!!

When I read your site, all I see is a bunch of excuses. You didn’t do well because you didn’t want to work hard. You skipped meetings, you didn’t make enough calls, and you didn’t try to hold appointments. You just wanted it to be easy.

It’s honestly funny how you act like you were tricked or something. The truth is, you didn’t want to push yourself when it got hard. Real business owners keep going even when it isn’t fun.

I know plenty of women who started with the same training and tools you had, and they made it work. The big difference is they believed in themselves. They didn’t sit around blaming everyone else.

You can keep saying it’s the company’s fault, but really, you just didn’t stick with it. That’s on you, not Mary Kay.

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  1. “You can keep saying it’s the company’s fault, but really, you just didn’t stick with it. That’s on you, not Mary Kay.”

    Broken record time…sorry for the repeat…

    OP, if you cloned the most successful Mary Kay participant and fill the sales ranks with these clones, the failure rates would be exactly the same.

    Endless-chain recruiting schemes like Mary Kay have built-in failure rates. It does not matter how hard the sales folks work. Only a tiny fraction can ever turn a profit. This is why no MLM downline can be profitable as a whole. The upline profits come directly from downline losses. There is no way around this.

    Nice try OP.

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  2. When I read your site, all I see is a bunch of excuses. You didn’t do well because you didn’t want to work hard. You skipped meetings, you didn’t make enough calls, and you didn’t try to hold appointments.

    I don’t actually think that you have read anything here. Those women who were in Mary Kay were successful in terms that Mary Kay recognises. They eventually realised that being a “success in Mary Kay” wasn’t a viable long term option.

    You just wanted it to be easy.

    If it’s not easy, why do a lot of the prepared scripts claim it is? Why do sales directors with decades of experience claim “any-one can do it”?

    It’s honestly funny how you act like you were tricked or something.

    Not tricked, just not told the whole truth. Not given enough unbiased information to make a truly informed decision.

    The truth is, you didn’t want to push yourself when it got hard. Real business owners keep going even when it isn’t fun.

    A “real business owner”? Are you trying to tall me that you are not the She-E-O of her own business? That’s another talking point of Mary Kay Wagner Rogers Eckman Weaver Louis Miller Hallenbeck Ash’s company.

    Further a “real business owner” doesn’t have to buy order sell a pre-determined amount so the person above her can get a car, trip, ring et c.

    I know plenty of women who started with the same training and tools you had, and they made it work. The big difference is they believed in themselves.

    A few names would be nice so we could track them. Not the NSDs of the super special future ultra executive sales directors. Just an IBC who makes her money from sales alone? Or maybe a SD who doesn’t have a huge team whose team all make above $19k per annum in sales alone?
    No, you can’t because no-one tracks sales, especially not MKCorp. They track commissions alone.

    They didn’t sit around blaming everyone else.

    Sadly Mary Kay’s own published figures show differently.
    https://imgur.com/a/mary-kay-canadian-income-disclosure-2024-hPNN90o

    You can keep saying it’s the company’s fault, but really, you just didn’t stick with it. That’s on you, not Mary Kay.

    Sadly, the figures are stacked up against every single person who joins an MLM, not just Mary Kay. According to the FTC, in order for one woman to succeed, 249 have to fail. Mary Kay’s own income disclosure agrees with it.
    However, if you had actually read the “I-Stories” here, you would have realised these women WERE successful in the limited terms that Mary Kay Wagner Rogers Eckman Weaver Louis Miller Hallenbeck Ash’s company recognises. They were career car drivers, had the rings and blings, they had the SDs jackets.
    They didn’t join up and expect to be Bezos after a week.

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  3. Let me guess: you’re failing in MK despite doing everything “right” but not ready to face reality, so you “stumbled” onto Pink Truth. In your confusion and anger, you’re lashing out at PT because you can’t blame the Company; the Company is Good, and you’re trying to convince yourself.

    How’s that working out for ya? When you’re ready to face the truth about your feelings and MK, you’ll find a lot of good support and help here.

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  4. I’ve answered this 100 times and here’s 101:

    5 cars. Large unit. Unit clubs. Trips. Kate spade. All the junk. Worked hardddddd. A few giant paychecks.

    Turned it all in. Why? Because I could work less at a j.o.b. and make more. I actually don’t work at all now and homeschool my girls and somehow make more than I did in Mary Kay. Mary Kay pays crap for the work you do and time spent away from family and all the other expenses that comes with leadership. Mentally and emotionally I was SHOT. The constant stress of month end. Don’t come at us like that. You could have booked a party in the amount of time you spent writing your speech. We’re all out and happy and free, and I feel you’ll be here soon too. Can’t put a price tag on diving off the hamster wheel back into reality.

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  5. Hand raised!

    I worked it hard for 20+ years.
    -Never missed a meeting (even went after being in a car accident),
    -Attended all events for 20+ years (leadership, seminar, career conference and retreats)
    -Was on all conference calls even at 5am while pregnant
    -Warm chattered 10 faces a day for weeks
    -200 facial boxes out for months
    -Got 10-20 referrals per face at parties
    -Tables at Fairs, Wedding Events, Craft Fairs, Teachers Back to School events at Staples
    -Got into schools to honor teachers
    -Got into doctors’ offices to honor the doctors/ office workers
    -Worked my networking portfolio
    -Attended Networking Meetings and Paid for seats at Chamber of Commerce
    -Bought leads from Google
    -Scoured Facebook groups
    -Booked from bookings
    -Went back to my high school/ college friends
    -Hit up my entire extended family, some of whom I never had spoken with
    -I sat at the feet of my NSD, my Senior, other NSDs, anyone who would try to teach me anything.
    -I gave up my weekends with my family
    -I gave up way too many hours with my babies because I was told they wouldn’t remember anyway…I REMEMBER!
    -I gave up a healthy relationship with my spouse because I was running for a goal that is not possible to meet doing everything the right way.
    -I spent DECADES on the phone
    -I spent DECADES following up
    -I read hundreds of “Get your mind right, your attitude right, your expectations right, fix YOU” books
    -I went to therapy
    -I hired more than 10 different business coaches
    -I hired in home assistants
    -I hired out of home assistants
    -I hired someone to clean my house and mow my lawn
    -I drove hours to have no one open their door
    -I drove to apartments lugging my crap up 4 flights of stairs
    -I had dogs pee on me
    -I had drunk people at the parties
    -I had my husband sit in the car while I went to appointments because I didn’t feel safe

    I DID EVERYTHING with an amazing attitude!

    The only thing I had to show for it was some wonderful customers who stuck with me for 20+ years. They were really sweet ladies.

    For the amount of things I was willing to do on a consistent basis (20+ years)…..$20,000 (before out of pocket expenses) was not what I worked this hard for.

    For this time, effort, and amount of headaches, I should have been a TOP NSD….Nope…Just a Director trying to hide the fact (out of shame) that I had a huge credit card debt and an even bigger whole in my heart from lying to people that this was the best thing going.

    You can take your comments that I am lazy, and that I didn’t try, and that I didn’t work it as a business. Open your eyes.

    smh

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  6. I’m sitting here today on a Friday having just gone to the hospital to get some lab work done. I now work as a professor at a university and can organize my day, for the most part, as I like. Today, I have no scheduled meetings or classes and so I can take 10 minutes at 10:40 am to read PT and respond.

    I’ve worked hard in my life to reach the level I’m at in my academic career just as I worked hard when I was in MK. The difference is that in my academic career, I’ve been rewarded with authentic promotions and recognition based on my hard work wheras in MK it was trinkets and ribbons based on recruiting and my credit card. My career path in the academic world was based on me. My effort and achievements in teaching wheras in MK it is totally based on others and my wholesale purchases – not sales. In MK it’s completely up to the “other” if they will host a class or not, if they will join or not, if they will start ‘qualified’ or not, and how big of a package they start with. While I could try to influence this, I had no control of their final decision. I can’t tell you how many times I was cancelled on; showed up at a house and no one answered; ready to have a recruit sign paperwork only for them to change their mind.

    I love the freedome of my job now. No one is breathing over my shoulder. I get my work done for my students, the community partners I work with, and for the committees I serve on. That feels good. And…I don’t have to go into debt doing this.

  7. “I know plenty of women who started with the same training and tools you had, and they made it work.”

    Great. Maybe you can persuade them to come here and post their actual numbers: specifically, annual profit (revenue minus expenses), and hourly pay (profit divided by total hours worked).

    Oddly enough, no one ever does that.

    You and your friends have the power to prove PinkTruth wrong, if the numbers are on your side.

    So go for it. If you can. We’ll be waiting to see what you come up with.

  8. “Real business owners keep going even when it isn’t fun.”

    Real business owners don’t need to withhold important information so their customers will buy from them and then ambush them with all of the extra fees after they’ve swiped their credit card.

    Real business owners don’t need to go to weekly brainwashing sessions to keep going because they actually have a legitimate good and/or service they don’t need to overhype to sell.

    Real business owners don’t need to harass strangers in grocery stores and restaurants in a desperate attempt to meet their quotas (because yes, you have quotas in Mary Kay).

    Real business owners develop their own products and services and decide the pricing.

    Real business owners don’t need to run around crowing about their business ownership.

    Real business owners don’t rely on a paycheck from the company that employs them as a 1099 contract employee BECAUSE THEY ARE REAL BUSINESS OWNERS.

    I’ve been in Mary Kay. And now my spouse and I own a successful business. The two are not comparable. Sit down.

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