No Paycheck Just For Signing Up

I don’t know what you all expected. Mary Kay never promised to hand you a paycheck just for signing up. It’s a business. You can’t just coast and hope people will come knocking. The tools are there. The training is there. The support is there. You just didn’t want to do the hard stuff.

Every time I read something on this site, it’s more of the same. Blame the director, blame the company, blame the system. But you know what you never do? Look in the mirror. You were uncomfortable with follow-up? You didn’t want to go out and talk to strangers? You skipped events and ignored coaching? That’s not the company’s fault.

No one said it was going to be easy. But it is possible. You just didn’t want it bad enough. Or maybe you did, but not more than you wanted comfort. And that’s the difference between people who make it and people who quit and write bitter posts online.

5 COMMENTS

  1. “Mary Kay never promised to hand you a paycheck just for signing up.”

    They also don’t pay you for selling product. They do, however, pay you to front-load your recruits. The bigger the front-load order, the bigger the paycheck.

  2. Puh-leeze!

    I started with a “full-store inventory” because that’s what my director told me to do. Booked 8, held 5 parties in my first two weeks, because that’s how you’re successful.

    I got up, dressed up, and showed up, because that’s how you “go up.”

    I paid for thousands of dollars of private coaching, hundreds of dollars of makeup tutorials. I did every training Mary Kay offered and then some.

    I pumped breast milk in three airports and two convention centers to “make it work” and “use my family as my reason.” I missed my son’s birthday for Leadership. I showed up to Seminar still bleeding from a miscarriage.

    I had a full-blown anxiety attack on the phone with my director about how much I DIDN’T want to warm chat. Then I fixed my mascara and walked in and did it anyway.

    I did bridal expos and vendor events, festivals and fairs. I recruited women from the library’s free “mommy and me” events, from church, from my other jobs, waitresses, and more.

    I followed up until people blocked me. Did things on my director’s advice that make me ashamed of my behavior now.

    I was Queen of Sales and Recruiting in my unit every year I was a consultant. I put my director into her first car (that she promptly lost), her senior into national qualifications (which she fell out of in 5 minutes).

    It took two therapists and months in this community to accept that it was not, in fact, all my fault. I blamed myself and took personal responsibility to a fault.

    It does not matter what you do. “The System” is rigged against you. Mathematically, in every business like this, less than 1% of participants will make any money. And you can’t overcome math with positive thinking, I don’t care how well you pay attention to Mary Kay’s “trainings.”

    So come at me with anything else you like, but do not come at me with “you just didn’t do the work.”

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    • Agreed. I did MORE than all the stuff they said it would take to be successful. Even felt with my drunk director telling me I was no fun at Seminar when I wanted to sleep. Never felt better than when I called corporate to tell them they could have their Directorship back. I didn’t want it anymore. 20+ years I can’t get back. Smh.

    • Oof. That is so hard to read, Frosty. Thank you for sharing. My guess is yours is a much more common story than this PTC realizes or is willing to admit.

  3. I don’t know what you all expected.

    Executive pay for part-time work was the promise.

    Mary Kay never promised to hand you a paycheck just for signing up.

    Since Mary Kay Wagner Rogers Eckman Weaver Louis Miller Hallenbeck Ash is dead, it’s hard to say what she would be promising now. However, those who claim to be protecting her legacy promise more than a paycheck.

    It’s a business.

    No it isn’t! A business implies that (general) you have control over all aspects of said business. Under Mary Kay Corp, every detail has to be what and only what MKC wants shown.

    You can’t just coast and hope people will come knocking.

    And that is why you have to call, text, e-mail, call, text, e-mail over and over and over until your weary mark either blocks you on social media or reluctantly agrees hold a sparely attended “party”.

    The tools are there.

    (narrator’s voice) There are no tools.

    The training is there.

    (narrator’s voice) There is no training.

    The support is there.

    (narrator’s voice) There is no support until ” you match your energy to the director’s time”! In other words, she will not deign to notice you until you have ordered an appropriate amount dollar worth of products.

    You just didn’t want to do the hard stuff.

    Another PTC who hasn’t read any of our “I-stories”. These ladies were the “cream of the crop”. The career car-drivers, sash wearing stage walking, ring and bling-wearing pinnacles of envy.

    Every time I read something on this site, it’s more of the same.

    Yeah, that’s because you are reading screen-shots from the directors’ groups!

    Blame the director,

    After all, it’s only her commissions that are affected by your orders or lack there of.

    blame the company,

    The company doesn’t care about (general) you. It cares only about your money. A fact that all companies around the world agree on.

    blame the system.

    The FTC blames the system. Not just me and others.
    https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2024/09/ftc-staff-report-analyzes-70-mlm-income-disclosure-statements

    But you know what you never do?

    Read this pretty little picture?
    https://imgur.com/a/mary-kay-canadian-income-disclosure-2024-hPNN90o

    Look in the mirror.

    I do that several times a day. It’s just I don’t need to justify why no-one wants to buy over-priced make-up.

    You were uncomfortable with follow-up?

    Some people are.

    You didn’t want to go out and talk to strangers?

    ibid.

    You skipped events and ignored coaching?

    I’ve seen Mary Kay SDs so-called “coaching” video’s, they are laughably pathetic.

    That’s not the company’s fault.

    Since the “company” doesn’t step in to stop any of the crap the NSDs/SDs do, yeah it is!

    No one said it was going to be easy.

    Points back to the whole “executive pay for part-time work” discussion.

    But it is possible.

    Sighs, Mary Kay’s own Canadian 2024 income disclosure disagree with you.
    https://imgur.com/a/mary-kay-canadian-income-disclosure-2024-hPNN90o

    You just didn’t want it bad enough.

    How can you prove this? Our former IBCs and SDs claim differently.

    Or maybe you did, but not more than you wanted comfort.

    No, they no longer wanted to be a part of a company which scammed other people.

    And that’s the difference between people who make it

    And have you made it? I suspect not.

    and people who quit and write bitter posts online.

    Says the woman writing bitter posts online!

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