A Mary Kay Bashing Website
I am a Mary Kay consultant myself and have read enough of the comments on your website to realize that this is just a Mary Kay bashing website.
Let me explain to you that I work a “real” job and work my Mary Kay part time. My real job is at a top two in the world printing company and that job really sux. I am simple a number to them, there is no recognition, no reward for doing a good job, only points added to my record when I have to be absent- and with 4 children there are times when a mother cannnot simple be there.
Why don’t you post Mary Kay policies of God first, family second, and career third. What about the positiveness of this company?
If I never reqruited anyone into Mary Kay, which I have, nobody brow beats me, this is my business and I can run how I please as to say I can build it at my own pace. If you and some of these other bashers would get a real job, sweat your ass off for 12 hours a day with little recognititon and even worse pay you would realize that Mary Kay is a Wonderful company to be a part of.
There is no secrets in Mary Kay. Get a real job and then see how you feel about Mary Kay.
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Another one who hasn’t read a darn thing on the site, or she’d have seen heaps of people saying what a relief it is to have the regular paychecks and benefits of a real job. Or how they can’t fathom giving up the security of their job to take a chance on MLM. Or how you’re better off with a normal part time job because you make better bank with that than doing MK full time.
While I think working parents should get more cooperation from their employers, given the cost and scarcity of childcare, a number, a consultant number, is all you are to Mary Kay as well. They care about the orders you place and that’s it.
For most people a job is just money in the bank so they can do what they really want in their downtime.
Oh, and where the hell is “god first, family second” in the first family of MK? The mother burning through husbands and lying to increase her profitability? The father calling the son incompetent, the kids calling the father senile, the son being sued for playing fast and loose with trust money? They should be on Jerry Springer, not considered paragons of godliness.
She works for a printing company but her spelling sux, she simply cannnot seem to understand correct grammar, and when they reqruited her, they did so without her understanding correct punctuation? I’m so confused 😫
Yeah, based on her comment about “points,” her job is probably running machinery. This is sad!
So sad that a little recognition (based on success metrics that are skewed and some aren’t real) makes people go away with all critical thinking and defend a company blatantly taking advantage of them.
“Get a real job and then see how you feel about Mary Kay.”
What a ridiculous narrative that women either do Mary Kay or don’t work at all. I’m certain every single commenter here has had a “real job”, some here have very impressive professional credentials. Also, in slogan only is Mary Kay is God first, family second, career third. And other MLMs steal that line because it’s an effective recruiting pitch. But if you want to make any kind of money, it’s Mary Kay ALL the time.
This!! The ra ra calls, recognition events, prospecting, hosting parties, social media posts, follow ups, delivering orders…it literally never ends and there’s nothing to show for the efforts put in. Even for those with 10+ years in.
And before the huns get going, yes we’re aware that business owners put in a lot of effort and it takes time for them to see their fruits of their labor. But they have something to show for it like ownership and the ability to set up systems where their business eventually doesn’t need them to actually operate it to make money. Even for those at the top, if they rest for one second in MK, things will crumble immediately. MK has to be the priority and nothing about the model is sustainable.
Pink Truth Critic,
If Mary Kay is so great and your job is so bad, why not just quit your job and do MK full time? That seems like the obvious solution, no?
Is it because….(Gasp) You can’t actually support your family trying to sell Mary Kay, or you need things the company doesn’t provide, like health insurance?
“If you and some of these other bashers would get a real job, sweat your ass off for 12 hours a day with little recognititon and even worse pay you would realize that Mary Kay is a Wonderful company to be a part of.”
OP, I’m an RN/Clinical Nurse Specialist. I work 12-hour shifts 3-5 days a week. Don’t you dare lecture me or others about not sweating our asses off or working real jobs. What I do matters immensely to patients, their caregivers, and the community. Also, I receive plenty of recognition for a job well done and am well-compensated for what I do.
If you have solid skills in the printing industry and your current employer “sux,” I suggest you find a new employer. Companies in advertising and media frequently seek print buyers who understand the print industry. You’re not just printing books or magazines. You’re assisting with the selection of colors and layouts of fast food signs, menus, mailers (including junk mailers) and advertisements. — you name it. Take your talents and go elsewhere, and quit lecturing us on not having a “real job.”
Sounds like the OP is a new consultant who is still on her MK honeymoon. She’s fallen victim to the love-bombing, hugging and squealing of her MK “sisters.”
Her upline is GUSHING over her. Girl, you have courage and grit! A woman of action! Rah-rah! Shake those pom-poms!
(Why is she reading Pink Truth?)
Her director probably told her not to 😉
She stumbled onto us looking for hints to “warm chatter”.🗣️
Once again, a Mary Kay defender brings lots of emotion to the table but no facts or numbers.
OP, is Mary Kay really your second job, in the sense that it earns you more money than it costs you? Or is it just a hobby that fills the emotional void left by your real job, the printing job that allows you to afford your Mary Kay hobby in the first place?
I am a Mary Kay consultant myself and have read enough of the comments on your website to realize that this is just a Mary Kay bashing website.
Any bashing of Mary Kay’s company is coming from inside the house. It’s the directors and consultomers who spend their time bitching about the company. We just report them to the rest of the world and hopefully their downlines will see MK for what it is.
Let me explain to you that I work a “real” job and work my Mary Kay part time.
So your “real” job pays for your pretend job, got it.
My real job is at a top two in the world printing company and that job really sux.(sic)
Wow! You sound ‘bitter’!
I am simple a number to them, there is no recognition, no reward for doing a good job, only points added to my record when I have to be absent- and with 4 children there are times when a mother cannnot (sic) simple (sic)be there.
That’s the fault of late stage capitalism, nothing more. But what about “only death or contractions should stop you being at (insert Mary Kay event here)”? Isn’t that putting ‘your job’ before your family?
Why don’t you post Mary Kay policies of God first, family second, and career third. What about the positiveness of this company?
1) God first.. but plentiful Marian shrines abound. Women are encouraged to figuratively bow down to Mary Kay’s effigy.
2) Family second.. but women are encouraged to abuse their children’s relationships with their teachers, coaches and peers for the benefit of Mary Kay Wagner Rogers Eckman Weaver Louis Miller Hallenbeck Ash’s family.
3)Career third.. which is why (general) you can never ever ever miss a meeting or an event. And if you fail to meet the targets set for some-one else to get
their“our car” or “our trip”, well you have let down your “teamies”.If I never reqruited (sic) anyone into Mary Kay, which I have, nobody brow beats me, this is my business and I can run how I please as to say I can build it at my own pace.
Without recruits, how are you going to be successful, in terms recognised by Mary Kay? No Jacket, no Car, no Bees? But you have recruits, I think, however your grammar is confusing.
You are not running “your business” since you have NO input into pricing, into research and development, into advertising.
Your “business” is coercing women to buy over-priced cosmetics and badgering them to join your down-line. We see this time and time again in screenshots from directors groups.
If you and some of these other bashers would get a real job, sweat your ass off for 12 hours a day with little recognititon (sic) and even worse pay you would realize that Mary Kay is a Wonderful company to be a part of.
I think I’m one of the few here who no longer works. But you Ms. PTC seem to be deluded into thinking that we all sit on our butts, munching candy and being waited on hand and foot.
But the others are not. They work.
I have worked. I got recognition because I was a hard worker, a team player. I was rewarded with a salary which meant if I wanted a gaudy cocktail ring, I could go out and buy one. When I needed a car, I went out and picked which one I wanted, I wasn’t told what car and in which colour nor was I overpaying for it.
There is no secrets in Mary Kay.
There are plenty of secrets in Mary Kay which is why it is so difficult to get into directors groups. They don’t want their down-lines to see how much struggling goes on behind the scenes. Here’s another secret, one which comes straight from the horse’s mouth. https://imgur.com/a/mary-kay-canadian-income-disclosure-2024-hPNN90o
Get a real job and then see how you feel about Mary Kay.
May I ask why you haven’t promoted yourself to SD or NSD yet? Isn’t your deserve level high enough? Have you tried working Mary Kay in the pockets of your day? Do you no longer Bee-LIE-Ve in the products? Maybe you need an income producing activity instead of writing letters to people who work as hard as you if not harder at their day jobs?
These ladies know how they feel about both their jobs and their successful attempts at Mary Kay. These were career car drivers, SDs, jacket wears, stage walkers. You don’t know anything close to what they know and what they did.
I’m just sorry that you are a bitter lazy looser.
It’s kinda bs that you value recognition so much that you are willing to put your family into debt. And extra sad that you are so fooled by the “magic” of it all, that you don’t even realize the only reason they are giving so much recognition is to trick you into staying and deceive other woman with the “perceived success” due to all the recognition. I learned at director training that Mary Kay wants you to give a .1c prize with a $100 hug.
And to your income claims…. Print a copy of your schedule c. Black out any private information with a sharpie and send it on over. You know you won’t do it, in all the years I have been visiting this site, nobody has. And if you are saying to yourself “no I mean other people, not ME” … I dare you to get ONE director to secretly share theirs with you. They won’t because they are all faking it till they make it.
I own a manufacturing company and have over 35 employees. I can assure you that our lowest paid employee makes more money per year than I did in my best year as a director.
“There is [sic] no secrets in Mary Kay.”
Except for:
– The sales force is the true customer of MKC…no outside sales necessary for corporate profitability
– On average, 249 ladies must lose money for each person making a true business profit
– MK “wholesale” pricing is actually higher than market retail for products of similar quality, making it nearly impossible to sell outside the downline at cost, much less at markup
– No one is making real money in Mary Kay through product sales. The big money requires significant recruiting and front-loading
– Front-loading benefits only your upline
– Generally speaking, folks don’t buy MLM products from strangers
– Pity purchases make up the vast majority of sales in MLMs like Mary Kay, which is not scalable or sustainable
– The MK compensation plan rewards ordering and recruiting, with no incentives to actually sell the product
– Door-to-door selling went out of favor with the rise of big economy retailers like Walmart and Amazon
– MLM involvement nearly always results in financial and reputational damage
Should I go on?
“…Mary Kay policies of God first, family second, and career third. What about the positiveness of this company?”
It’s sad that grown women still believe this childish manipulation, but here we are.
“God first” for this company means, “the best way to honor god is to sell Mary Kay.”
Family second for this company means, “Your family exists to help you sell Mary Kay, if they don’t, they’re an obstacle.” Poor little tiny toddler Wren is just a prop used to promote her mother’s “business,” unless she’s crying during a meeting and then she’s a noisy obstacle that needs to be punished.
Spare me the Mary Kay “positiveness” BS.