You Chose to Be Negative
It breaks my heart that all of you ladies have such a sad impression of Mary Kay. One of the things that you all don’t understand is that you don’t make full-time money in Mary Kay unless you have a full-time sales director position.
I know several top consultants personally, and they aren’t working 40 hours per week with their business right now. They have other jobs or are choosing to spend 5 hours per week with their business because that’s how much time they want to set aside. And they’re still making money!
Girlfriend time is one of my favorite parts of Mary Kay. Yes, there are events that we have to pay for, but the reason for that is because there are expenses related to putting on those events. The National isn’t “making money” off of the events by any means. But, if she’s going to plan a dinner for certain consultants who it specific goals, someone has to pay for the food, right? It’s only fair that the consultant attending should pay for the meal and the rental space if she is going to benefit in some way by means of training or other information.
My favorite kind of Mary Kay girlfriend time is when it’s unexpected. This past Christmas, I couldn’t fly back to Indiana to be with my family, and after a very emotional evening, I showed up on my director’s doorstep unannounced on Christmas Eve and she welcomed me with open arms. She could have turned me away and said that she was spending time with her family, but to her, I am “family.” We’ve gone to movies together, had several sushi dinners, and sat for hours just enjoying each other’s company…and this from my ADOPTED sales director who doesn’t gain anything from helping me with my business. (And she has helped me, immensely).
I know my comments are not going to change your opinions of Kim or of Mary Kay. Your comments, however true you may feel they are, do nothing but hurt people’s feelings and spread untrue statements. If you aren’t happy with Mary Kay, fine, own that. But, don’t smear other women because of your own insecurities.
If any of you truly gave your businesses an honest effort and didn’t make excuses, my guess is that you would have been successful. Instead, you chose to be negative and bring other people down with you. How sad. I hope you ladies learn what Mary Kay is really all about someday. Joining this company has been the best decision I’ve ever made in my 27 years on this planet, but that’s me. Best of luck to you all in your future endeavors.
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“And they’re still making money!”
That’s called revenue. They are not turning a true lifetime business profit. The qualifying minimums plus the costs of training, travel and conferences make sure of that.
“If any of you truly gave your businesses an honest effort and didn’t make excuses, my guess is that you would have been successful.”
Many of the contributors here were successful by Mary Kay standards. But once they woke up to the reality of the continued downline harm necessary for this success, they decided they could not, in good conscience, continue.
Contributors to this site are concerned with the downline masses exploited by the upline and MKC. PTC, you are standing up for MKC and the ones doing the exploiting.
Who sleeps better at night…and at the end of the month…and approaching the end of Seminar year?
How can the comments hurt people’s feelings that AREN’T reading such a “negative” site?
27 years old and has it all figured out. Sure. Without any solid financial facts backing her claims, her comments mean nothing. Unfortunately she is believing every lie and script her upline is feeding her.
But this isn’t the way it’s presented. Future IBCs seem to be told from the beginning they’ll make full-time income on part-time hours. Now, this person says only full-time sales directors make that money. Which is it, cuz it can’t be both.
I was once 27 and an emotional superfund site. But I never even thought of my coworkers and boss as a way to get my warm fuzzies. Hell, they were half of my problems, but even if I’d trusted them it would mean my troubles were always with me.
“This past Christmas, I couldn’t fly back to Indiana to be with my family, and after a very emotional evening, I showed up on my director’s doorstep unannounced on Christmas Eve and she welcomed me with open arms.”
That’s unhealthy and needy and so far outside of professional norms it almost loops around the universe to meet it from the wrong side. Shooing a crying young woman off her front porch on Christmas eve would have made her look like Scrooge and she either A) couldn’t figure out how to get rid of you politely or B) thought it would be something she could use to manipulate you later – “what do you mean you’re not ordering this month, after I welcomed you into my house at Chrismas when you were so upset?”
I can guarantee that she resented having to feed, soothe, and entertain you, and that her family resented having this emotional stranger plonked down in the middle of whatever their plans were.
Besides that, blurring the lines between friendship and business can backfire in a huge number of ways, from perceived favoritism from the rest of her downline (and we’ve seen plenty of MLMers who won’t hesitate to Mean Girl you into oblivion) to a sense of betrayal when she can’t or won’t accede to your every whim.
As a 27 year old, it’s time to learn to cope with Big Feelings in a healthy way, whether that takes therapy, self help, or a big hard think about what’s missing from your life and what you really want. If you want friends, go make friends, and NOT through MK. I mean real friendships with no strings attached; people who will welcome you into their home on Christmas because they care about you and want you around. They will like you for who you are, not for what you can do for them, but they have to know you feel the same way about them and don’t view them as potential sales targets.
Ditch the MLM and go do normal young adult stuff. Those are years you’ll never have back, as I’ve learned to my sorrow.