We know there are plenty of hidden agendas in Mary Kay and plenty of truths that aren’t told until long after you’re sucked into the pink vortex. But this happy Mary Kay consultant wants us to quit saying bad things about the company, because anything that happened to us in Mary Kay is our own fault…

I just feel so sad that there are so many sick people out there…they couldn’t control themselves or discipline themselves, so all they do is blame others and spread slander and libel… talk about Go-Give: how would they feel if they were disparged like that in public?

I have realized that the most important reasons why the people on your site didn’t succeed in MK wasn’t because they didn’t treat their businesses like businesses (or their lives–or they wouldn’t have charged so much on their credit cards with no plan to sell the inventory), but the reasons are that NOTHING good can happen for people who are so evil, mean-spirited, venomous, whiney, hateful, etc.

They complain that a few directors may have misled them…but yet the way they talk about other people is atrocious!!

Most of the “facts” that they talk about are NOT facts…everything in Mary Kay is spelled out if they took the time to read…

Most of the Consultants and Directors DO sell the product…I personally sell about $300/week just on my website…I sold $200 in one day last week…quite a return on my $50/year!! Except for one of my sisters and one of my daughters, NONE of my 500+ customers is family or friends!! I guess all of those people are stupid, too…

But your people don’t believe in learning how to sell to anyone but their families or friends; they don’t believe in investing in sales aids or marketing; if they maxed out their credit cards or did anything else they thought they shouldn’t do because someone “told” them to…they have more problems than MK or anything could fix!!

If they were foolish enough to order, order, order and not sell or develop a customer base, that’s on THEM!!

Anything that is ordered has a shipping charge attached to it (shipping costs are even wrapped into what is bought at a store)…but according to YOUR people, a shipping charge is WRONG when MK does it!! That’s the kind of illogical, childish thinking that your people engage in.

In our unit and area, we have SALES contests…booking rallies, etc. We SELL the product…people I don’t even know wouldn’t order and pay for $150+ on my website if they didn’t like the product… unless, of course, they are as clueless as the people on your site are… that’s what the people on YOUR site would say…

no one put a gun to their heads to do anything, buy anything, attend anything…are they that weak-kneed?

The FDA/US government sued many companies that made false claims about one thing or another…if everything Mary Kay has said has been such lies, why hasn’t the Company been sued?

Well…you talke about us being in the “Pink Fog”…you people are wallowing in self-pity and self-hatred that you then try to blame others for YOUR failings. Most people in MK—like most people in the world, period–are good, hard-working, honest people.

I teach all of my people how to market and sell the product…those who really want to learn, that is. I have some people like some of the people here…they actually think that all they had to do was order the starter kit and then sit down and eat bon-bons and money would fall from the sky.

If people think they got “financially ruined” by Mary Kay…that’s THEIR fault…they should have had more common sense and not spent money they didn’t have with no plan to make money or daily discipline to wiork consistently. If they were too cheap to even invest in business cards and complained about putting their customers on PCP–knowing that there is competition out there no matter what the product–no wonder what ever customers they had didn’t stay.

Like I said before, it’s like spending a lot of money to set up a brick and mortar store, then rarely opening for business, or doing any advertising or marketing (they are NOT the same…); and then wondering why their store failed.

Well, I really feel sorry for people like you who have to build themselves up by pulling others down…I know that what goes around, comes around…and those of you who feel that you have to be so foul-mouthed, hateful, catty, etc….will have all of that come back to you one way or another…no matter how “cheerful” you say you are…

But you all are SO hateful…nothing anyone says to you will ever get through…

God bless you anyway…

6 COMMENTS

  1. “If they were foolish enough to order, order, order and not sell or develop a customer base…”

    PTC, no one, and I mean no one would be silly enough to just keep ordering product before selling unless they were somehow pressured into doing so. The real is question is why is this so common in MLMs like Mary Kay? Why does almost every MK rep have an abundance of product on hand that they are unable to sell?

    Could it be that the system is set up to encourage front-loading and over-ordering at rates that greatly exceed market demand? If you look at the compensation plan of MLMs like Mary Kay, all the incentives are associated with ordering and recruiting, with no incentives, rewards or recognition for actually selling.

    This problem you speak of (ordering more than you sell) is baked right into the system. The compensation plan is the smoking gun. You can’t just wish this away.

    If you eliminate upline commissions, and drop the price accordingly, IBCs would have a fighting chance to make money at this just from selling. But no one is making any real money in Mary Kay from selling. All the big money makers in MK have a huge downline. Even you admit to having a downline.

    So, if there is no money to be made selling product, that leaves ordering and recruiting. Is there any question, now, why everyone in MK orders way more than they can ever hope to use personally or sell? You can blame this on rogue directors if you want. We will continue to place blame where it really belongs: The underlying MLM system, which encourages participants to order way more product than they can ever hope to use or sell, and to recruit others to do the same.

  2. Anyway, let’s take a look at the numbers here. She SAYS she sells $300 a week on her website (proof?) Assuming she sells it all at full retail (as if) and follows the standard “keep 40%; reinvest 60%” that gets her $120 a week. Times 52 weeks a year gets her a whopping $6240 a year.

    And IF she’s selling $300 (proof?) at full retail (as if) to her sooper loyal (alleged) 500 customers that gets her $15,600 gross a year, meaning each spends the bank-busting sum of… $31.20 a year. That’s what, a lipstick and a half?

    I wrote a check for $4.2 million last week. Ok, it wasn’t my money and I didn’t get to keep any, but it shows the difference between a business and Gordana Gekko here.

  3. Mary Kay training says that each customer will purchase, on average, $400/year. If today’s PTC has 500 customers, she should be averaging $3,846 per week in sales, just from reorders.

    So, PTC. Is Mary Kay lying? Or are you?

    • Dos she not read all the comments on the posts that prove we did everything right for a long time and nothing good happened?!

      Has she ever googled Mary Kay lawsuits? There are heaps!

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