Why Do You Care So Much?
Mary Kay didn’t work out for you. That’s fine. Not everything works for everyone. But this entire site feels like an overreaction. You had a bad experience, and now you’re trying to convince the world that anyone who enjoys the business is either lying or delusional. It’s just not true.
I’ve been in Mary Kay for five years. I don’t drive a Cadillac. I’m not a director. But I make a little extra income, I love the people, and it gives me a creative outlet. No one pressures me. I order what I want, when I want. Is it always perfect? No. But it’s not the nightmare you make it out to be either.
You call it “truth,” but what I see is an echo chamber. You attack anyone who says something positive. You assume everyone who stayed is being manipulated. That’s just your narrative. Let people have their own experiences. Just because you didn’t find success doesn’t mean no one else can. You walked away. So why do you care so much?
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“So why do you care so much?”
MLMs like Mary Kay are peddled as an opportunity for most, when in reality, the overwhelming majority of participants must lose money for the system to function. This is unfortunately the reality of all pay-to-play endless-chain recruiting schemes. These losses are not due to participant shortcomings. These losses are integral to the design of the system. These losses are what power the system. It cannot function otherwise.
There is a reason no MLM downline can be profitable as a whole. In the aggregate, the participants will spend much more than they will ever get back from the MLM. In the case of Mary Kay, this difference is literally how MKC makes money. MKC has no other revenue stream. Participant losses, not end-consumer sales, are the very heart of Mary Kay Corporation’s revenue stream. It has to be this way, since MKC has no other revenue stream.
In traditional companies, every participant can make positive income because revenue comes from sales to outside customers, not from the pocketbooks of the sales force. In MLMs like Mary Kay, positive income is possible only for a teeny tiny fraction of participants…funded by the losses of the rest of the participants.
This is why I care.
^^ What DJ said.
We care because far too many have been hurt by MK and other MLM. The financial ruin and debt that comes from MK destroys families and marriages. (Look at how many top directors and NSDs who have been married and divorced many times, including Mary Kay herself.)
We care because women are constantly lied to about this “opportunity.” Executive pay for part-time work! The products fly off the shelves! MK marketing plan is taught at Harvard! None of this is true, and if someone told you any of these, they lied to you.
We care because many of us here did EXACTLY what we were supposed to do, played by MK’s rules, and were successful by MK’s standards. Yet we were hurt, had debt, and made pennies. We saw people cheat their way to the tippy top and later saw them placed on pedestals of “You can do it, too!”
I consistently go back to what I make as a registered nurse/clinical nurse specialist (because MK and MLM huns love to pick on nurses and how hard we work and how little we make). I make damn good money doing what I do, and I assure you that I have a more meaningful impact in peoples’ lives than the average MK director.
Mary Kay didn’t work out for you. That’s fine. Not everything works for everyone.
If by not everyone, it’s more like 98% it doesn’t work for.
This is Mary Kay’s 2024 Income Disclosure for Canada.
https://imgur.com/a/mary-kay-canadian-income-disclosure-2024-hPNN90o
But this entire site feels like an overreaction.
If anything, it’s an under-reaction!
You had a bad experience, and now you’re trying to convince the world that anyone who enjoys the business is either lying or delusional.
Yes, many women in Mary Kay Wagner Rogers Eckman Weaver Louis Miller Hallenbeck Ash’s company do lie. They may not know it as it comes highly polished and breathed by those elite women you are trained to look up to.
It’s just not true.
I challenge you to find on statement out of nearly twenty years and prove it incorrect. Heck, even the last year. Maybe focus on some if the screenshots of the director’s groups? That’s a treasure trove of Truth.
I’ve been in Mary Kay for five years. I don’t drive a Cadillac. I’m not a director.
Then why should I listen to you? 5 years and no car and not a director? Where’s your “executive pay for part-time work”? Unlike many of the women who write here, you don’t have the MK credentials.
But I make a little extra income, I love the people, and it gives me a creative outlet.
Little income is correct, there’s not a lot of profit once you’ve deducted everything first. What’s creative about using company approved copypasta?
No one pressures me. I order what I want, when I want. Is it always perfect? No. But it’s not the nightmare you make it out to be either.
So, no “Dialing for Dollars” at the end of the month? No “Find a way, Make a Way and just put it on your credit card and worry about repayment later”? No “I need you to do 30 Faces in 30 Days?”
Must be a PUC who just chuggs along barely noticed and barely contributing anything other than a name and a credit card.
You call it “truth,” but what I see is an echo chamber.
Again, name one lie and defend it.
You attack anyone who says something positive.
And yet, the women who write here of their own experiences in Mary Kay over the decades HAVE spoken out positively on their own experiences. They have dwelt on the friendships, the support, the skills, the laughs and yes, the sorrows too.
You assume everyone who stayed is being manipulated. That’s just your narrative.
It’s the narrative pushed in the various Director’s Groups on Facebook. They are the masters, or should it be mistresses?, of the power of manipulation. Mary Kay Corp have spent 60 years convincing women that they can make unlimited money while knowing that the structure they use ensure that over 98% will either lose money or just scrape even.
Let people have their own experiences.
Yet, your experience is just the same as that 98% . Barely scraping by. Meanwhile the majority of our authors were directors, career car drivers, the Sash-Wearing Stage-Walkers. The bee-jeweled jacket wearers. You are not talking to some-one who bought a kit and forgot about it!
Just because you didn’t find success doesn’t mean no one else can.
Again, our authors did! It’s just you haven’t actually read a single article.
You walked away.
Yes, and we are offering our hands and knowledge to help others walk away with head, heart and dignity intact.
So why do you care so much?
Because some-one has to care! Humanity has been built on caring for each other. Early hominid skeletons have been found with healed broken bones showing that early human societies cared for their injured. Should our 21st Century Christian based culture be less than that?
Jacob MarleyBusiness! Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence, were, all, my business.”
A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens.