People Are More Likely to Fail Than Succeed
A comment from a gentleman who believes that people are more likely to fail than succeed at anything they do. What an outlook on life! Why do anything at all in life? What a sad life you are going to have if you’re most likely going to fail at everything!
Every negative you described appears in every sales opportunity on the planet. There will always be things out of your control. What is in your control is your attitude and response to these negatives. Your work ethic is in your control.
If your dumb enough to buy your way into a sales goal to achieve recognition, you will not succeed. That is bad business. If you open a McDonalds and buy 1000 big Macs to hit your sales goal, you’re a terrible business owner and a hollow shell of a person who believes that is success. And you will never succeed.
What you describe is not exclusive to MK. People are more likely to fail than succeed at anything they do, and we as sales people are entitled to nothing we don’t create for ourselves. The problem isn’t MK or MLM, it’s the people in them that blindly believe it’s an easy way to make 6 figures or better. They’re naive. And shame on the recruiters who aren’t straight with their distributors, hut again this isn’t exclusive to MK or even MLM.
As an insurance broker I talk to agents daily who blindly believe they are guaranteed to make 100k in passive incone just because someone else did. Only 10% of agents make that type of money or better. The other 90% are hardly ekibg out a living. But let’s blame the insurance company or better yet the insurance industry as a whole instead of taking responsibility for our poor business savvy, naivety and weak work ethic.
I challenge you to show me one business opportunity where 51% or more of the people succeed long term making an above average income. And back it up with facts. You cannot do it. 70% of businesses fail within 10 years. If you can prove me wrong, I will quit my job and sign up under you, then pass your lazy ass.
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This troll is all over the antiMLM reddit sub. Primerica dude if I am not mistaken.
“The problem isn’t MK or MLM, it’s the people in them…”
Victim blaming? Check.
He’s right that it takes a special person to make it big in sales. But MLMs don’t target sales professionals, and they don’t even emphasize retail sales. They target anyone willing and able to gamble their own money on an elusive opportunity in hopes of being in the 0.4% of participants who don’t lose money.
In traditional companies it is not only possible but also likely that all participants will make positive money. In MLMs like Mary Kay, downline losses are required for upline and corporate profitability.
OP fails to acknowledge that the tiny sliver of MLM participants that DO make a meaningful profit are not doing so through product retailing. In all other sales positions, selling the product to outside parties is the vehicle to success.
Only in MLM companies does the sales force need to buy the product personally to be able to qualify for commissions when selling to others. In MLM companies, your profitability is directly tied to the losses in your own sales organization. Large profits cannot be had without proportionally larger downline losses.
Ultimately, OP fails to identify the true customer in every MLM: The downline.
He’s all over the business sub-reddits as well, getting his metaphorical ass handed to him. He labours under the usual delusion that a hierarchical management structure is a “Pyramid Scheme”.
Interesting spelling choices aside:
“…you’re a terrible business owner and a hollow shell of a person who believes that is success”
So this person is a psychoanalyst in addition to being a business guru?
“If you can prove me wrong, I will quit my job and sign up under you, then pass your lazy ass.”
Not even sure what this translates to? Possibly: “Do well, and I will do better?” But in a narcissistic way.
Ironically, he says to name any business opportunity where 51% or more of participants make “above average” income, then he says he will “sign up under you”. Only in pyramid schemes (and MLMs) can you “sign up under” someone.
The burden is on him to identity just one MLM downline that is profitable as a whole, or anyone in MLM who is making any real money through retailing the product to outside customers. The very nature of MLM precludes both scenarios.
He’s in luck. The $20 e-start is still on-going. I’m sure there are plenty of “successful” Mary Kay Girls who will be eager to help him start his own small business.
Every negative you described appears in every sales opportunity on the planet. There will always be things out of your control. What is in your control is your attitude and response to these negatives. Your work ethic is in your control.
Not every sales opportunity demands I sign up every-one I know or meet to be a competitor like MLMs do.
If your dumb enough to buy your way into a sales goal to achieve recognition, you will not succeed. That is bad business. If you open a McDonalds and buy 1000 big Macs to hit your sales goal, you’re a terrible business owner and a hollow shell of a person who believes that is success. And you will never succeed.
If I open a McDonalds franchise, the company knows I have enough assets at hand to make it succeed. They know I have a hinterland free of any other McDonalds to encroach on my business. If I buy 1,000 Big Macs, they know I have the potential to sell that number and make a profit for both of us.
What you describe is not exclusive to MK. People are more likely to fail than succeed at anything they do, and we as sales people are entitled to nothing we don’t create for ourselves.
The “Book, Sell, Recruit” method is inclusive to all MLMs, though. Because these are not sales jobs, they are recruiting jobs.
The problem isn’t MK or MLM, it’s the people in them that blindly believe it’s an easy way to make 6 figures or better. They’re naive. And shame on the recruiters who aren’t straight with their distributors, hut again this isn’t exclusive to MK or even MLM.
The insidious problem with MLMs is the fact that the scripts are polished enough that people are lured in A specialist job recruiter knows their industry and what salaries are the norm at which spine points. Mary Kay/MLM uplines rarely know because it is not in the company’s interest to allow scrutiny of those figures.
I challenge you to show me one business opportunity where 51% or more of the people succeed long term making an above average income. And back it up with facts. You cannot do it. 70% of businesses fail within 10 years.
In an era of mega-corps this is increasingly true. I am not going to search through each and every business arena just to spite you. Though most places I’ve seen say less than 35% of new start-ups last more than 10 years.
With the way the current global economy is heading, small businesses are going to have a harder time in future.
If you can prove me wrong, I will quit my job and sign up under you, then pass your lazy ass.
Lucky for you the $20 e-start promotion is still running and there’s plenty of eager beaver Mary Kay girlie-pops who’d love to sign you up. Here’s a snapshot of what you could be earning.
https://imgur.com/a/mary-kay-income-disclosure-2023-LFdntKd
“If your dumb enough to…”
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“The other 90% are hardly ekibg out a living.”
What’s an ekibg? Is it small? What does it eat? How much do you feed it?
Yeah you are an insurance broker and think in today’s insurance world passive income is a thing? As a licensed insurance agent i can assure you that you have zero idea what is going on in the industry and the people you work with aren’t paying attention either.
The agent i work for had been in the biz for over 40yrs, and he has never seen the industry in such disarray. Still In all of his years he’s never ever ran his office as just waiting for the commission checks to come in. He’s involved in the community, he meets our insureds after 5pm or on weekends at their homes.
We recently had a new agent use our office for a bit while he looked for his own space, even tho he was taking over an office where an owner was retiring and has an establishedbook of business, this brand new to the business owner was networking most of the time he was at our office.
If you’re in the insurance business today I promise you no matter the policy type life, casualty, property theres no serious agency owner keeping an office going on passive income, and there hasn’t been for most likely the last 60 years.
From January 1 through December 31, 2024, Primerica paid our life-licensed sales force members an average of $7,757
from the Primerica Canadian income disclosure.
$7,757 /12 = $646 a month (minus expenses., of course)
As of April 1, 2024, Canada’s federal minimum wage is $17.30 per hour. So 10 hours a week at a minimum wage job would bring you as much money with NO EXPENSES