You’re a Conspiracy Theorist
I was the lucky recipient of the below email from a woman who won’t reveal her real name. She talks as if she was at NSD level, and yet she gets a lot of the lingo wrong.
Hi, Tracy. In the past years I have read over quite a few of your comments on that site you wrote against MK. And I would love to say this, whether you agree with me or not. That is what opinions are for.
These women that have been taking up for Mary kay, it is because they truly are doing well and are successful with Mary kay. just because you weren’t, and others haven’t been, doesn’t mean we are all brainwashed or lying.
I’m a 65 year old Grandmother who recently retired from Mary Kay, I worked for MK for 35 years and I loved it all the way up to retirement in January of 2020. I have 7 grandgirls who also work for MK. Out of the 7, Only 4 are at the top right now. The other 3 are full time Mom’s & married so they don’t have as much time to put into it as the other 4 do. MK helped me put my Son’s and Daughters through college and I was also able to afford so much more things that I have always wanted.
I was married for 45 years and My Husband died from Covid-19 on May 13th 2020. When Richard Rogers found out, He paid for my Husband’s funeral, as well as donating $25,000 to Me. When I asked him Why? He said “for being a loyal hard-working Employee for 35 years and for always being kind”.
I had over 4500 Women from all walks of life, working under Me. I even got the pleasure to meeting every one of them at a MK Retirement Party that MK threw for me. All lovely ladies aged from 18-50.
One of the ladies I helped to recruit was on SSI and was tired of a very low income and after 6 years of her talking to me (Me never forcing her to join) She seen my grandgirls join and the 4 becoming successful within a couple months and so, this young woman called me one day and asked if she could join, and I said we would love for her to. That was 3 years ago and She went from $720 a month and living in a travel trailer with no running water to now owning a beautiful 2 bedroom home in Dallas and bringing in over $8500 per month. I am beyond proud of her. Within the first 5 months after she joined, She got a Beautiful Pink Car! Now, She has a Even More Beautiful Pink Cadillac!
I could go on and on and on about all the success stories in my 35 years, but you my dear I believe are a conspiracy theorists, you say you want to help women, yet you call them brainwashed just because they are successful and you weren’t. The only success you have had is what, writing three books on fraud investigating? Which is wonderful for you, as women we should empower one another instead of bringing one another down and that is what you are doing. You believe you are trying to help women, but in reality you’re not. Instead you’re mocking them and calling them a liar and saying they are brainwashed. Shame On You.
I pray you find peace and try to quit bringing women down to your miserable level.
I have also written books on my success and failures. I have had quite a few failures with MK but, always got back on top! If you’re interested, let me know and I would love to send you a free signed copy.
I’m also a Retired research journalist. I have also wrote a book on that.
I have wrote a book on Multi-marketing levels. also let me know if you would love free copies of those.
Good-Luck. And Welcome to Almost 2021 where We Women aspire to inspire women!
I responded: If your story is true, I’d be able to find things about you and your MK involvement online. Sadly, there is nothing. Feel free to send me the pics of the party MK threw to you, one of your big commission checks, etc. Tell me about the retirement plan MK has for you?
She said:
It is all very true. I have a 401k retirement from MK. If you have a PO box I will proudly send you copies of my books. it is funny, you say you can’t find me, yet you do not know my name, so how can you find me? I’m guessing you tried by my email address? If you knew anything you would know that the name I’m using on my email address is not even my Name. It is a fictional character from one of my books that is waiting to be released spring of 2021! I do know one name I know you have heard of, because you’ve written junk about her. Kristin Sharpe. Lovely lady.. also Proud to call her My own blood. Beautiful, elegant and graceful.
Are you against Mary kay, because you weren’t pretty enough? Or maybe because you didn’t think that you were good enough and you didn’t have enough confidence?
Also it takes money to make money, any job in the world right now…literally. I knew Mary Kay Ash, she was such a beautiful and sweet lady, kind. and the fact that you would debunk or try to anyway her company even after death, is very sad and speaks volumes for your character. I think my next book will be about you and people like you. Thank you for the inspiration.
When I called her on the “not pretty enough” comment, and mentioned that her 401k would make her a corporate employee, yet I know she’s not in Texas…. I got the following response:
People are right about you, you take words and twist them. NOT once did I ever say you are not pretty enough. I simply asked if you felt like you were not pretty enough.. major difference, you would think you would know that being educated as you are. I also never said I was not in Texas, now did I? just because my family, and other blood relations are not in Texas doesn’t mean I’m not..
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Truly successful people don’t need to tell anyone they are successful. And the only reason she would hide her identity would be to keep anyone from verifying her claims.
A 4500 person retirement party?
She’s lying…and not just about the party.
Yep, and there’s no way in heck any of the Rodgers clan would pay for a funeral, let alone donate some people’s yearly salary to some random hun. They’ve never done that for anyone. Not even real NSDs or ones who have been lining their pockets for longer than this one.
If she’s so all fired successful why did Rogers have to donate $25K?
A 4500 people party during Covid, none the less.
I didn’t even think of that – holy superspreader event, Batman! And right in the middle of the lockdowns for both the so-called retirement party and the funeral. So she’s either lying about both those things, or else she held two potential superspreader events that could have sickened who knows how many people. Neither option is a good look…
To be fair, she said the retirement party was in January, and lockdowns didn’t start until mid-March. That’s literally the only benefit of the doubt I’m willing to give here.
Ah, yes, the reversion to misogynist, mean girl insults when Tracy called her on her bullcrap.
Tracy is lovely and I’ll take anyone who shows their true face online over the faked up, caked up, filtered into oblivion huns.
And bashing someone because they’ve “only” written 3 books is like calling someone lazy because they’ve only run 3 marathons.
Are you against Mary kay, because you weren’t pretty enough? Or maybe because you didn’t think that you were good enough and you didn’t have enough confidence?
or???
NOT once did I ever say you are not pretty enough. I simply asked if you felt like you were not pretty enough.. major difference, you would think you would know that being educated as you are.
The fact this woman lies so very easily is enough to not take her words with anything other than a grain of salt.
Please please please let me know the titles of your books! With writing like that, I want to make sure they’re never on my shelf.
“I have wrote…” OP, you are proofreader’s nightmare.😱
I can confirm this.
Having written books doesn’t mean they’ve ever been published. If they have, I’d bet that it was a vanity press that will print anything if you throw money at them.
Our lovely correspondent’s books, that is. I know Tracy’s are legit.
You can self-publish on Amazon, these days. There’s plenty of “courses” out there to show
the gulliblewant to be next “Superstar” author how to wite proper and make their first billions for a modest fee of $495 or so.Hi, Tracy. In the past years I have read over quite a few of your comments on that site you wrote against MK. And I would love to say this, whether you agree with me or not. That is what opinions are for.
Please do not fail to spare us the usual trite platitudes of an MKBot.
These women that have been taking up for Mary kay, it is because they truly are doing well and are successful with Mary kay.
For one women to do well in Mary Kay, 249 are not. Their success comes at the cost of overwhelming failure.
just (sic) because you weren’t, and others haven’t been, doesn’t mean we are all brainwashed or lying.
It’s not lying if you bee-LIE-ve it’s the Truth.
I’m a 65 year old Grandmother who recently retired from Mary Kay, I worked for MK for 35 years and I loved it all the way up to retirement in January of 2020.
Congratulations on your retirement.
I have 7 grandgirls (barf) who also work for MK. Out of the 7, Only 4 are at the top right now. The other 3 are full time Mom’s & married so they don’t have as much time to put into it as the other 4 do.
I’m thinking this is what in the Trade we call a “Fibette”. MKCorp would have been all over this up-lifting story . They love a good
riches to ragsrags to riches story especially when it involves several generations of the same family.MK helped me put my Son’s and Daughters through college and I was also able to afford so much more things that I have always wanted.
By exploiting other women no doubt.
I was married for 45 years and My Husband died from Covid-19 on May 13th 2020.
My condolences.
When Richard Rogers found out, He paid for my Husband’s funeral, as well as donating $25,000 to Me. When I asked him Why? He said “for being a loyal hard-working Employee for 35 years and for always being kind”.
Tax right-off IF it happened. And by “kind” Ryan meant exploiting other people for his enrichment.
I had over 4500 Women from all walks of life, working under Me. I even got the pleasure to meeting every one of them at a MK Retirement Party that MK threw for me. All lovely ladies aged from 18-50.
I hope you didn’t have that many people at a party during the height of Covid. Paparazzi told their huns not to talk about the convention after which many people contracted Covid and several died.
https://www.insideedition.com/paparazzi-accessories-silent-after-at-least-5-die-from-covid-19-following-mlms-convention-loved
https://behindmlm.com/companies/11-deaths-linked-to-paparazzi-covid-19-las-vegas-event/
One of the ladies I helped to recruit was on SSI and was tired of a very low income and after 6 years of her talking to me
AKA my constant low level nagging, neging and bragging.
(Me never forcing her to join)
“I tell myself this in order to sleep better at night!”
She seen my grandgirls (barf) join and the 4 becoming successful within a couple months
Only because you were actively funneling women into their downlines to exploit them.
and so, this young woman called me one day and asked if she could join, and I said we would love for her to.
Bingo! You finally got her to break!
That was 3 years ago and She went from $720 a month and living in a travel trailer with no running water to now owning a beautiful 2 bedroom home in Dallas and bringing in over $8500 per month.
Running the figures through Zillow, buying a house could happen. Not sure about how nice the areas are though.
I am beyond proud of her. Within the first 5 months after she joined, She got a Beautiful Pink Car! Now, She has a Even More Beautiful Pink Cadillac!
Again, another “rags to riches” story Applause would love to share.
But does she still have the car? Not that it matters to you, you have made your money from her and when she fails, her downline rolls up into your greedy little hands.
I could go on and on and on about all the success stories in my 35 years, but you my dear I believe are a conspiracy theorists, you say you want to help women, yet you call them brainwashed just because they are successful and you weren’t.
You claim to have been a “research journalist” and yet you appear to have not even looked at Tracy’s own “I-Story” or the “I-Stories” of any of the other women who write far more eloquently than you, Ms. PTC, about their experiences in Mary Kay Wagner Rogers Eckman Weaver Louis Miller Hallenbeck Ash’s company.
The only success you have had is what, writing three books on fraud investigating?
And a highly successful career on fraud investigation as well.
Which is wonderful for you,
Damned by faint praise.
as women we should empower one another instead of bringing one another down and that is what you are doing. You believe you are trying to help women, but in reality you’re not.
And yet, we get testimonials from women thanking us for our help in getting them out of Mary Kay and returning their products in order to receive as much of their money back as possible.
Instead you’re mocking them and calling them a liar and saying they are brainwashed. Shame On You.
Citation required.
I pray you find peace and try to quit bringing women down to your miserable level.
Some religious shaming. Wouldn’t be a PTC Friday without that.
I have also written books on my success and failures.
I mean I have a Hugo Award. Admittedly it was as part of AO3 but still. Also I’m not sure if self-published books count.
I have had quite a few failures with MK but, always got back on top! If you’re interested, let me know and I would love to send you a free signed copy.
Did you take her up on her ever so generous offer, Tracy?
I’m also a Retired research journalist.
Here’s something for you to “research”, Mary Kay’s 2023 Canadian Income Disclosure Statement. While you are researching that, try to research a single down-line in which every single person makes a profit.
https://imgur.com/a/mary-kay-income-disclosure-2023-LFdntKd
I have also wrote a book on that.
I have wrote a book on Multi-marketing levels. also let me know if you would love free copies of those.
I hope you had a proof-reader.
Good-Luck. And Welcome to Almost 2021 where We Women aspire to inspire women!
How are your “grandgirls” doing now, over four years later? And does your prized recruit still have her Cadillac?
You have a HUGO! I’m going all fan-girlish here.
Not mine, sadly. The fanfiction website Archive of Our Own (AO3) received one for fan-based media so the collective authors and artists are technically Hugo Award winners.
“Within the first 5 months after she joined, She got a Beautiful Pink Car!”
My response is: That sounds like a lie. Even Cecelia James daughter, mallory james has a black car (sorry I don’t know the mary kay lingo of what kind of level she’s at) but she doesn’t even have a pink car and I’m sure her mom does all she can to help her!
I call bs! I tried looking her up and found nothing online as well. Mmmm… sounds fishy! Sounds like she’s a writer allright; in fiction! LoL
It is all very true. I have a 401k retirement from MK.
No you don’t because that’s not what Mary Kay offers their consultomers. Corporate staff are a different matter.
If you have a PO box I will proudly send you copies of my books.
Gosh! Such an offer. Did you take her up this time Tracy?
it is funny, you say you can’t find me, yet you do not know my name, so how can you find me?
So, you can’t find me otherwise you’d have proof of my lies.
I’m guessing you tried by my email address? If you knew anything you would know that the name I’m using on my email address is not even my Name.
Obviously not proud enough of your accomplishments to sign your own name to them.
It is a fictional character from one of my books that is waiting to be released spring of 2021!
Oh noes! I missed the publishing day. Did she have big parties at Barnes and Noble to celebrate?
I do know one name I know you have heard of, because you’ve written junk about her. Kristin Sharpe.
What have we written that is junk? Citation please!
Lovely lady.. also Proud to call her My own blood. Beautiful, elegant and graceful.
If Ms. Sharpe is your blood relative, why are you hiding your identity? Are you secretly ashamed of the connection?
Are you against Mary kay, because you weren’t pretty enough? Or maybe because you didn’t think that you were good enough and you didn’t have enough confidence?
Wow! That’s the Triple Jump Conclusion Olympic Gold Medal there!
Also it takes money to make money, any job in the world right now…literally.
Not for the ordinary workers it doesn’t take money from them.
I knew Mary Kay Ash, she was such a beautiful and sweet lady, kind.
To your face, she probably was. Image was her business after all. Behind your back? Who knows?
and the fact that you would debunk or try to anyway her company even after death, is very sad and speaks volumes for your character.
MKC is just another company, one of hundreds if not thousands that sell make-up and skincare There are websites on the internet which show the negative side of working for them or how bad their products are. If this company is unable to stand up to the scrutiny of people on the web without criticism, then it’s not a good company.
I think my next book will be about you and people like you. Thank you for the inspiration.
Cool, can I be the fat French-Canadian? Striped top, beret, string of garlic round my neck, baguette under my arm clutching a glass of red wine and smoking a Gauloises?
People are right about you, you take words and twist them. NOT once did I ever say you are not pretty enough.
See the bolded statement above. Your own words quoted here.
I simply asked if you felt like you were not pretty enough.. major difference, you would think you would know that being educated as you are.
Major league defensiveness here.
I also never said I was not in Texas, now did I? just because my family, and other blood relations are not in Texas doesn’t mean I’m not..
You’ve told so many “fibettes” it’s difficult to tell.
Oh my goodness. I would hope that someone with no clue on how to capitalize, write a sentence and even speak incorrect English would be able to 1. make it to the top position in any company; 2. Write any books that would make it past the shopping around stage. (Perhaps they are self-published?)
I’m also a Retired research journalist. I have also wrote a book on that.”
I have wrote a book on Multi-marketing levels. also let me know if you would love free copies of those.
Wow, y’all! She “has wrote” a book! On, uh, “research.” And expects us to be impressed! And expects us not to be impressed that our gracious hostess here at PT has written THREE books.
This professional writer will now go and gargle with Listerine to get the taste of butyric acid out of my mouth after reading that poorly edited dreck.
Suddenly my screen name doesn’t seem as funny to me….
A “research journalist” with terrible English skills.
I’m calling bullshit on all of it. No house, no neighbor, no grandkids, no husband, no retirement party or paid funeral. The whole thing is a lie.
Bingo!
Is it just me or does her timeline seem to not add up?
She is 65. She got married at 20. She’s got seven grown up granddaughters, four of them very successful in MK.
That means she needs to have had four kids when she was between 20 and 25.
Then all four of her kids need to have had at least one, in most cases two, daughters when they were between 18 and 25.
And then at least half of the granddaughters need to have thrown them selves into MK as soon as they were coming of age.
I mean, it is possible. And I haven’t counted on the possibility of kids before her marriage, twin pregnancies etc, etc. But is it plausible?
Also, she retired in 2020. But she claims to have recruited the young lady living in a trailer, now successful two bedroom home owner, three years ago. Ergo: 2022.
Not to mention her career as a research journalist. Before her 35 years in MK, I suppose? The years before 25 when she must have been busy with taking care of all of her kids, most of them infants or toddlers.