Mary Kay Math Strikes Again

Written by Frosty Rose

We all know that Mary Kay math is complete hooey. From false earnings claims, executive income for part time work, and a complete lack of understanding of how profit works, we could fill an entire blog just with their mathematical shenanigans. While not the most egregious example, I have one of the funniest stories of how this plays out on a weekly basis all across the country.

As many of you know, most sales directors hold weekly training meetings. They may be called “Success Meetings” or “Girls Night Out” or “Monday Night Live” or anything else that obscures the fact that they’re glorified recruiting events on a very small scale. Directors recognize queens of sales and recruiting, demo products to guests, and may get around to training on the same old tired scripts that Mary Kay herself wrote in 1963, as though they’re still relevant.

When I moved to a new town, I was looking for a more local weekly meeting and found the only director in town. Her meeting worked with my schedule, so I gave her a call and let her know I’d be joining the following week. “Great!” she said, predictably.

Importantly, I was a full-time consultant by this point. I had a part time job (you know, the one that actually paid the bills), but I was working Mary Kay a lot! And I was moving a lot of product. I was used to always being queen of sales (meaning I consistently sold more than an eyeshadow per week), and I saw no reason I wouldn’t be sporting that plastic tiara in the new space as well.

What I didn’t anticipate? This director, perhaps recognizing that $90 in sales per week from her tippy top consultant wasn’t going to convince anyone that this was a viable business, recognized the “queen of hourly income.” (Whaaaaaaaaaat?)

This chick actually had a whiteboard at the front of her room where she calculated everyone’s “hourly income.” Now, if you don’t know how that works, or how a director could run a full P&L on a whiteboard for 8-10 consultants and still get any training and recruiting done, well, allow me to enlighten you. You see, “sales income” really has nothing to do with how much money you deposit in your checking account. And it has very little to do with how much it costs you to run your business. No! The formula is ridiculously simple!

Your sales are always the retail amount of product you moved off your shelf and into the hands of a customer. Ran a sale for 20% off? Doesn’t matter, just use the full retail value to calculate your income. Gave a bunch of stuff away to bribe your hostesses? That’s fine, it still counts as sales. Absurd? Obviously! Effective at bloating your income claims? Yep!

Then you divide that retail number in half (wholesale cost), and that’s your income! Divide that by the hours you worked (only counting those hours you were face-to-face with customers, of course! Office time and phone time don’t count!)

The week before, I had held a couple of parties and a facial or two, so my sales were really high, but so were my hours worked. The years have faded the details, but let’s say I sold $800 and worked 8 hours (again, that doesn’t count the time I spent calling hostesses, packing for parties, washing mirrors, mailing orders, going to the bank, etc, etc, etc).

“Great, Frosty Rose! So, that’s $800 in sales, divided by two gives us $400. If we divide that by the eight hours you worked last week, you earned $50/hour. Not too shabby. Who else had sales last week?”

“I did!” chirped Amber Suede from across the room. “One of my customers reordered some products. I sold $100!”

“Great!” responded the director, reflexively. “And how long did that take you?”

“Oh, only about 15 minutes,” answered Amber.

“Wow! Ok, so that’s $100 divided by two, gives us $50 in profit. And only fifteen minutes, you say? So, $50 times 4 gives us $200/hour in profit! Ladies, can you believe that?? Guests, how much are you earning per hour at your full-time job? What choices would you be able to make if you were earning $8,000 per week?” crowed the director. (Notice how quickly that $50 “profit” became a steady 40-hour paycheck!) Cue much gushing from the consultants and guests alike.

“Now, Frosty Rose,” continued our dear director, “wouldn’t you rather earn $200/hour than $50? What would you need to do increase your earnings?”

I’ll admit, my tongue got ahead of my pink-fogged brain at that moment. “Thanks,” I replied, “but I’d rather be able to pay my bills from sales than rely on such inconsistent orders.”

And that, folks, is how Frosty Rose got banned from the only local “Success Meeting” in her new town!

But seriously. I was never going to earn enough from sales to pay my bills. My actual earnings that week, even seeing more new clients than normal, were still only about $200 after discounts and giveaways. And I promise you, eight hours was not at all representative of the time I was investing in my business.

So, how should you respond to these income claims? Ask questions!

  • How much did you give away or discount?
  • What was your actual deposit into your checking account last week?
  • How many hours did you spend away from classes and parties? Calling, booking, coaching, administrative tasks? (Hint, they’re going to tell you to hire an assistant for admin tasks. How much does that cost?)
  • In the past month, how many weeks have you sold this much?
  • What other costs did you incur? Shipping, samples, catalogs, mileage, gas, postage, unrecovered sales tax?
  • How much did you deposit into your personal account from your business earnings last month?

What other questions should we ask as we try to get to the reality behind Mary Kay math?

4 COMMENTS

  1. Back to the ledger…

    – How much total time and money did you spend on your business in the last week/month/year/lifetime? (These are your costs: Orders, postage, gas, samples, sales materials, posters, snacks etc.)
    – How much did you receive back in total the last week/month/year/lifetime? (These are your evenues: Sales revenue, bonuses, commissions etc.)

    Notice how the price of the product does not come in to play when calculating “profit” or “income”. The price (wholesale and retail) only affects sales margin, which is automatically accumulated in the ledger.

    If the second number is smaller than the first (like 99.6% of all MLMers on average), you have an operating loss, and the number of hours spent is immaterial (unless you want to know how much money you lost per hour invested). However, If the second number is larger, subtract off the first then divide by the number of hours spent (for the week/month/year/lifetime) to see your “effective” hourly rate for those periods.

    The consultant must track all of these fine details or they will not know the health of their business. Such detailed accounting is likely never encouraged in any MLM. True business owners, meanwhile, go to great lengths to keep an accurate ledger. This is their primary view into the health of their business, and is also important at tax time.

    MLMers are encouraged to conflate revenue and profit, obfuscating the true health of their business. Just look at the director’s guidance in Frosty’s example above.

  2. Great questions! I’ve never seen anyone provide straight answers on income questions. Also, if MK Corp was truly about empowering women, you’d think they’d provide consultants with a basic ledger or bookkeeping system to actually track and manage their finances like a business. The tech stack can’t be that hard to build. They spent time and resources creating unnecessary apps (that they’ve now gotten rid of) when that would be the more sensible priority. Even a spreadsheet template would make sense. But of course we know tracking any financial information would kill the company all together.

    It just baffles me how I would always hear how good the company took care of and cared about the salesforce, and it saddens me that people don’t realize the company is profiting off of their ignorance and wants them to stay in the dark about the most important aspect of a thriving business —the money!!

  3. Math was my worst subject in school every time but I always found it sort of comforting. When a poem can be either a nice poem about a pretty lady or a metaphor for death and despair, a historical figure both a beloved reformer and a brutal murderer, and cutting edge science can go obsolete overnight as new discoveries are made, good old 2+2 always =4. A triangle always has 3 sides, and pi, even though it extends into infinity and never repeats, always represents the same concept and holds true whether the circle is as small as an atom or as big as the universe. Math is honest. It has its own rules that it follows, and has followed ever since humanity started to think about them.

    When I landed here, I had such a hard time wrapping my brain around the MK math. Numbers don’t lie, but these people do, and torture the numbers into such a mishmash that it’s the mathematical equivalent of watching Bruce Banner turning into The Hulk. Wholesale. Retail. Theoretical income. Dollars earned by minute worked when the moon is in the house of Jupiter on a Thursday. There was so much I didn’t understand because they were treating the numbers like random words instead of Things That Mean Things.

    I really appreciate everyone here who does what they do to Save the Math and explain the truth MLM tries to hide with a lot of nonsense.

    (Now, of course, I math for a living. I get to collect, balance, and disburse around $15 million a year. I was 50 cents off in 2017 and I’m still annoyed by it. Must have misread a 3 as an 8…)

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