Don’t Run Your Mouth About Mary Kay
Someone left this as a comment on a post at Pink Truth. It’s a shame that Norma doesn’t know Mary Kay isn’t a Job. You don’t own anything. So if she thinks she’s telling people the truth when she is trying to recruit them, she has already failed.
Before you run your mouth and say things you really know nothing about check your facts.
MARY KAY is a business model studied by Havard Business College and many other entities and has been proven over and over again NOT TO BE A PYRAMID. It has multiple levels to build your business and your income.
So here is my story. I have a business with Mary Kay, I follow the steps of finding leads, booking appointments, coaching Hostess so Appointment holds, teach hostess and her guest, if any, how to care for their skin with products customized for their skincare care needs and concerns, I offer purchase options, give an invitation to consider doing what I do (no pressure) and invite her back to teach basics of glamour or other spa like experiences.
I earn money by selling product with a 50% discount. So if I sell $110.00 I make $55.00.
I have never recruited anyone with pressure, I give them the truth of how business works with an emphasis on WORK. Because it is a JOB, a business we own and it requires a commitment of time, planning education, and the knowledge that you are in business for yourself BUT NEVER BY YOURSELF.
Please just don’t hate on something you deep down think you would like to do, or maybe have done without the necessary commitment to your success.
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“Or other spa like experiences.”
Hahahaha.
Putting products on your face, hands, or feet in your home is NOT a spa-like experience.
For retail 50% is actually a TERRIBLE mark-up over wholesale. You think it sounds impressive but it’s terrible; it tells me you’re not making any money. I also know by the time you give hostess discounts, any sales you offer, offer gifts with purchase, you’re not keeping that measly 50%.
“MARY KAY is a business model studied by Havard Business College and many other entities” It was ONE case study, way back before the turn of the century. Being studied by a major university is NOT always a good thing: they study Theranos, Enron, Bernie Madoff and bubonic plague.
“I earn money by selling product with a 50% discount. So if I sell $110.00 I make $55.00.” Oh you sweet summer child, please take a business accounting course. You have expenses to pay. That $55 is not yours to spend.
https://www.pinktruth.com/2007/09/02/mary-kay-math-gets-a-reality-check/
“I give them the truth of how business works with an emphasis on WORK”
Really? Do you tell them that no MLM downline can be profitable as a whole? Do you tell them that 249 participants must lose money for each person turning a profit, no matter how hard everyone works? Do you tell them no one makes real money selling product, but the real money-makers do it through recruiting and front-loading? Do you tell them that upline profits are tied directly to downline losses?
Do you tell them the dangers of mixing money and relationships? Do you tell them that their friends and family will look down on them because of their MLM participation? Or how most sales in MLM are pity purchases from loved ones? Or how happy their loved ones will be when they finally quit MLM?
If you don’t share these things, you are not sharing the truth.
Still spouting the same old lies. She thinks we don’t know anything about Mary Kay cosmetics. Yet some of us (not me, but others on the blog) are former top directors who used to spout those same lies. That is, until they finally broke out of that thick Pink Fog and realized Mary Kay is not a job! Mary Kay consultants are not franchise owners, and they are not business owners-they are distributors for a Billion dollar company.
A Mary Kay consultant is restricted on how she can sell her products. A true business owner could sell their products anywhere they see fit. A true business owner has employees, not recruits who distribute products.
Mary Kay is not a job, nor a business and never will be-it is a distributorship with a multi- level marketing approach.
Friend, you’re not even giving yourself “the truth of how business works.” You’re not making a 50% profit, not even close. You’re not even making a 50% margin. You’re discounting products, giving away hostess bribes, paying for shipping, paying for postage, paying for your website and your business cards and your samples. You’re paying for gas and travel. You’re paying for events and meeting fees. You’re being guilted into paying for help because “if you can’t afford help, you can’t afford to not get help.”
Be honest, you’re losing money. Mary Kay is an expensive hobby that costs time, money and relationships. If you’re honest about all of that, we’ll shut up and let you get on with it. We’re all adults here, after all. No one’s holding a gun to our head.
LOL.
“…coaching Hostess so Appointment holds…” Texting her six times a day to say “you’re still holding the party, right?” is not the same thing as coaching.
“…teach hostess and her guest, if any…” You poor thing, I don’t know HOW you have the time to keep up with such a gigantic customer base AND tell the former directors, Cadillac drivers, Queens of stuff, and almost NSDs here how they did it all wrong.
Oh, and you’re not teaching them jack squat. You’re just repeating the company’s marketing spiel and the purported benefits for the stuff, because you’re not a licensed skincare professional. You’re a contracted reseller of another company’s goods. Which, BTW, is exactly what makes it a pyramid.
This person seems low IQ and very gullible.
I figure she’s probably still very new to MK and just hitting that point where the honeymoon phase ends and the “Is this really worth it?” phase begins.
I really wish there was some way to peer into a crystal ball at some of these Friday critics to see what happened after their love letters are posted. Do they keep on truckin’ in spite of their doubts? Quietly go inactive? Actively quit by returning their inventory? If any of them ever want to send in updates, I promise to be nice.
Before you run your mouth and say things you really know nothing about check your facts.
And I’m sure you have lots of facts.
MARY KAY is a business model studied by Havard (sic) Business College and many other entities
It’s Harvard Business School, for starters. Secondly it was a single study looking at the effect of giving small trinkets as a reward. It’s definitely not part of the curriculum studied by students.
and has been proven over and over again NOT TO BE A PYRAMID. It has multiple levels to build your business and your income.
It’s not a pyramid then goes on to describe a pyramid shape?
So here is my story.
I bet it’s the “same old, same old” I-Story we’ve heard so many times before!
I have a business with Mary Kay,
It’s not a business.
I follow the steps of finding leads, booking appointments, coaching Hostess so Appointment holds,
Sounds a lot of hard work for minimal return.
teach hostess and her guest, if any, how to care for their skin with products customized for their skincare care needs and concerns,
Bold mine. Now that is a telling statement. if any!
I offer purchase options,
So cash, credit, e-payment, anything to hide the amount spent from her spouse.
give an invitation to consider doing what I do (no pressure)
“Sure, Jan” GIF.
and invite her back to teach basics of glamour or other spa like experiences.
How? Putting on some samples isn’t a “glamour or spa” experience.
I earn money by selling product with a 50% discount. So if I sell $110.00 I make $55.00.
That’s your gross profit. Now remove the costs associated with selling that item. Especially if it’s during one of your Appointments; hostess gift, gas, samples, other Section Two products, cell phone bill, internet bill, possibly postage. When you’ve removed those from your $55, that’s your net profit. Divide that by the number of hours you put in in order to sell that product. You’ll be lucky to see $5 an hour.
I have never recruited anyone with pressure,
So you are one of those who “takes no as an answer”? Or do you call, text, e-mail until they give in or block you?
I give them the truth of how business works with an emphasis on WORK.
Do you show them the income disclosure? You know, the one they publish only in Canada because it’s federal law. Here’s a comparison between 2024 and 2025 based on Mary Kay Canadian Income disclosure.
https://www.pinktruth.com/2026/03/02/pathetic-income-for-sales-directors-in-2025/
Because it is a JOB, a business we own
You don’t OWN it. Mary Kay Wagner Rogers Eckman Weaver Miller Hallenbeck Ash’s company can kick you out for any reason. You make no decisions on which brands to sell, how to advertise, what the next product line is going to be. You’re a glorified reseller.
and it requires a commitment of time, planning education, and the knowledge that you are in business for yourself BUT NEVER BY YOURSELF.
Yes, because the women above you in the
pyramidhigher levels require you toorder, order, ordersell, sell, sell for them to earn their commissions.Please just don’t hate on something you deep down think you would like to do,
I’ve never thought about exploiting the hopes of other women as a career. So no, I wouldn’t like to start now.
or maybe have done without the necessary commitment to your success.
The women who write here were the “successful ones”, you know, the bee-jeweled jackets, the ring-bearers, the stage-walkers, the career car drivers. Maybe instead of stalking other women in Target with your upside down pins, you do some research about the failure rates in MLMs.
I’ve never thought about exploiting the hopes of other women as a career. So no, I wouldn’t like to start now.
I love that line! Great way to phrase it.
THIS!!!
It is MENTIONED in passing, not studied.
Just watched the video by Dr. Gilday on Intouch. It seems like they are putting the “upcoming changes” on what the world wants, blaming the “world” on the upcoming changes. Yet, they still didn’t give any details expect calling it a new brand campaign. We’ll see what happens next. And why is Dr. Gilday also taking a role in marketing? Weird.
Can you share the video here? Would love to hear it.
Sure Jan! We will take our life lessons from you, the almighty know everything. We bow to your greatness. However, you may want to take Accounting 101 to learn how to make and read a profit and loss statement among other important accounting statements. Then research to “prove” your facts with non Mary Kay sources as all liars go to hell. MK is not worth eternity in hell. “That’s all” in my best Miranda Priestly voice.
Is the spa-like experience in the room with us?
OP- as a former director, I can attest I’ve done ALL that you laid out… and STILL lost money when it was all said and done. I was a 5 time court of sales winner. I was actively in/working MK for 20 yrs. I saw a lot. You do not know what you speak of. So instead of running your mouth, I suggest you sit back with your favorite beverage and simply read.
Seriously, read the posts – you perhaps will learn some important lessons.
Good luck to you.
Bitch- check your statements before you claim they are facts.
🖤 a former sales director