Already Complaining About Seminar
Written by Parsons Green
Mary Kay will hold its annual seminar between August 8th and August 16th, and consultants are already complaining about changes that have been made. There will be no royalty reception this year for anyone who achieves the queen’s court of sales ($45,000 retail) or the queen’s court of sharing (24 qualified recruits).
Tara Geraghty shared this on Facebook. Tonya Vice had been warning people this was coming. She’s called. She’s sent letters. No one is listening. Mary Kay herself loved recognition. Ryan is too corporate. Everything has changed since he took charge. Natalia Travilina also shares that no one is listening. No one cares. The golden rule is GONE.
Marilyn Costic echos these sentiments. People who shouted warnings were criticized. Mary Kay consultants have withstood many changes over the years but the elimination of recognition is wrong.
Laura Claypool has enjoyed attending Mary Kay events. No matter what city, the company picked fun locations with great activities. In fact, she even stole a box of napkins from one event as a keepsake. Mary Kay no longer has Cinderella moments.
Nancy Polish calls on everyone to email Ryan, sales development, and special events! Email them again and again. We need recognition.
Then Emily Schuette pops in. A lot has changed, but if those changes allow the company to offer $5.95 CDS shipping, she’d choose that instead.
Another consultant asked if there would be a special gift for Princess Achievers. (This previously was $20,000 retail.) Surprise surprise! There won’t be. Those winners will have a special bling button on their badge and standing recognition.
Tonya jumps back in to express more disgust at the changes. She no longer recognizes the company she joined.
And finally, Mary Kay is offering a consistency prize for orders – there are five different prize levels between $7,200 and $19,200 retail. These “consistency” challenges are aimed at getting consultants to order all throughout the year. Diane Von Boxtel asks – do you need to be at seminar to pick up your prize? Why yes you do!
EmeraldDragon640 wonders… how do you promote a year long consistency contest if it requires an in person pickup? Ruth Casillas agrees that it’s unfair. She’s had two consultants miss the prize last year for this reason. Lauren Cronin found out that they won’t even let your national pick up your prize!
Audrey Butler called corporate. They listened to her concerns but she didn’t feel heard. This is UNFAIR.
Susan Celi can no longer fly and she has earned this. Sherry Hanes says that seminar attendance was never required. Mary Kay herself would NEVER let this happen.
Robyn Riddle also earned the prizes but can’t attend. This is not fair. She earned the prizes. She should get them. (Even thought the contest stated from day one that this prize was contingent on Seminar attendance.) She makes sure everyone in her area gets the prizes she promised them.
Another day, another set of complaints about how Mary Kay isn’t the same. Everything’s changing. No one listens. (Well what do you expect with a company that is circling the drain?)
As a CEO business owner, why do you let Mary Kay Corporate treat you this way?
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Then stop spending money.
And for those who have not yet spent anything on MK, don’t start spending your own money to sell things at your own risk and your own expense for a multi-national corporation. If you like the product space, get a paying job selling similar products.
With a real job, you will be cash positive after your first paycheck and from that point forward. With MLMs like Mary Kay, there is a 99.6% chance that you will never be cash positive once you’ve purchased the starter kit.
I would be so angry if I was still in mk, BUT, not surprised if I had been paying attention like we have on PT.
Apropos of nothing, Christine VanAckeran (commented above in thread) was the one who expressed such sadness about the mashed potato bar being taken away at the royalty reception in a different seminar thread.
Thanks again PG!!!
If MK corporate sent out all the earned prizes ( for ordering product) then no one would attend Seminar accept maybe the Queens courts. Smaller attendance means less profit for corporate. They have already cut back on Seminar, it is more and more like Career Conference- a one and a half day event. Gone are the days of 3-4 full days of events, recognition, parties, luncheons, museum and manufacturing plant visits. Affiliate marketing is closer than these ladies want to believe.
No way in hell is Ryan reading any of these emails- the consultants are wasting their time.
These Boss Babes need to wise up and realize MK Corporate has big plans that no longer involve giving a damn about these pesky consultants. The writing is on the wall.
If MK doesn’t ditch the MLM model by next summer, all this complaining will just give corporate an excuse to not hold a seminar at all: “if these greedy, attention-hungry whiners don’t want the prizes we’re deigning to offer them enough to travel for them, what’s the point of having the prizes? In fact, why have a seminar at all if they’re only coming to get stuff for themselves?”
And if they’re all so desperate for recognition and rewards, they’d be much better off using the time and money they’re spending on MK to investigate what’s missing from their lives and work on correcting that instead.
These attention starved women should volunteer at an animal shelter/women’s shelter/homeless shelter- they would be so recognized and appreciated there.
Don’t these ladies understand? All you have to do is convince every existing director and consultant to order $2500 in product right now, then each recruits 5 new people under them who do the same, and convince each of those new recruits to recruit another 5 under them etc. ad infinitum. Soon MK will be flush with cash, have a seminar-filling sales force, and all of the perks can come back!
Here’s proof…
https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/s/PeqhcDKhmi
…and here I thought consultants were business owners…
So… Tonya said that she’s been in MK for 22 years, but she started in 2010??? I didn’t know that the MK algorithm applied to years, too.
Ha, good catch!
I had never heard of Dune London, so I checked out their website. They have some nice stuff but nothing overly special, and they’re not a prestige brand. They didn’t have these exact bags, so they must be discontinued clearance… I mean, specially made for the occasion 😉
None of their shoulder bags cost more than $220 (vs $19,200). The smaller bags run mostly $100-150 (compared to $12,000-19,000). There were no wallets (unless it comes with the purse but they’re giving it away separately, which would not surprise me at all) or sunglasses on the site.
FFS, quit wasting your money and mental energy on this load of mule muffins, buy yourself a nice new purse, and save yourself a lot of angst and half a year’s salary at a normal job.
When the contest was first announced~ I looked up the Dune London bags~ the pearl level prize bag was on clearance for $100, all of the other prizes were $25(sapphire level) $45 ish (diamond) $75 for emerald ~ they keep changing the rules and wonder why the consultants get so upset with the measly prizes.. right now they mail the national court of sales rings/ court of sharing bees and unit club bars…( only if it’s a new level of unit club for you) I’m guessing since 9 out of 12 directors on a recent zoom aren’t going to seminar,( a trend of the low attendance numbers to come) they will have a surplus of the dune London bags they will give away at leadership next year… if they have leadership conference…
I hear the violins playing on the deck of the Titanic!
I knew I recognized those bags! We talked about them on the discussion board last summer. The plaid ones are cute but they’re probably not durable. The accents will likely tarnish or fall off. I can get a wicker purse and some cloth at a thrift store and make my own.
I wonder if our friend Hernan is going to seminar and which bag/prize he’ll take home.
Nancy Polish says it all in 4 words. I hope that those in Mary Kay take serious notice of this. It’s the smoking gun.
“ WE ARE THEIR PAYCHECK….”
Thank you Parsons Greenj
I wonder where they thought all of those thousands of dollars in inventory purchases went before now? Are they seriously just now figuring out they are the company’s paycheck? It most certainly has never been product retail sales.
Comparison between Tier Reward Item /.Estimated Actual Retail Price (USD) /. inflation factor
Sapphire Dune London Sunglasses Up to $9,559 – $50 / $95 / ~100x
Ruby Dune London Wallet
$9,600 – $11,999 / $75 – $135 / ~88x
Diamond Dune London Crossbody Bag
$12,000 – $14,399 / $100 – $ 150 /.~96x
Emerald Dune London Pearl/Floral Handle Handbag
$14,400 – $19,199 / $135 – $185 /.~103x
Top Tier Dune London Shoulder Bag
$19,200+ / $150 – $200 / ~96x+
Smart move MK! Ryan must be educated in MGT101, and how to increase morale! Way to go Ryan. He must be taking lessons from military and business leaders…R O F L!