Written by Mountaineer95
Women quit Mary Kay when they are directors, top directors, and even national sales directors…. and they seem to all become business coaches. Why? They pursue “coaching” and try to brand themselves as “business coaches” because they have no other options.
Truth be told, they have lots of other options of earning a true paycheck by working actual hours at an actual job. Whether it be minimum wage or otherwise… but they either think they’re more knowledgeable than the thousands of other MLM directors who’ve also failed at MLM, or they think that a wage-earning job is somehow beneath them.
I think a statistically significant number of current/previous MK Directors are clinical narcissists; if they didn’t “make it”, it’s not for their lack of trying. While they didn’t “make it” and had to “step down” (or whatever catch phrase they’re using to describe “failure” these days), they STILL somehow know exactly what OTHERS need to do to “make it”… hence the move to “coaching”. It smacks of the old adage, “do as I say, not as I do”… (but why are you not “doing it” when you claim to know how everyone ELSE should be “doing it”… a true question indeed.)
Sales Director Kimberly Perkins is an EXCELLENT example of this. Search her name here on PT and you’ll see what I mean about how a failed director can be so inherently narcissistic as to think that she can coach others about how to NOT be a failure (at EXACTLY WHAT SHE HERSELF FAILED AT, OVER AND OVER) and GET PAID to do so! Ah, the lulz.
My observation is that Mary Kay “directors” of ANY level… i.e. SD, EESD, NSD, TNT (hee hee)… are only known as that title within the Mary Kay pyramid. Their titles don’t translate to any other profession. So they cannot make what would be considered a “lateral” move… i.e. a Sales Manager for one company leaving that company to become a Sales Manager for another company.
And to make such a transition even harder, the MLM business model (singular because it’s the same for pretty much every MLM… shout out to Char for driving this point home on the regular) is so many light years away from any “legit” business model that no hiring executive looking for a legit Sales or Business Manager would consider a resume of MLM “success” to be a substitute for “real” experience. Even Mary Kay Corporate themselves have stringent requirements for their corporate “sales development” positions; most of the current independent “directors” alone wouldn’t qualify for them (Google ‘Mary Kay Careers’ for funsies if you have a few hours to kill).
BestDecision can attest to this resume issue: Her interactions here are always professional, polite, genuine, and well-spoken, and my interpretation is that she is a very professional and put-together person whom I would absolutely consider for a position if I were hiring, but she devoted years to MK… and per her words, regardless of her “success” during her MLM time, that MK splotch on her resume has been hard to overcome.
An example of my assertion above (about MLM “executives” not crossing laterally into non-MLM positions) would be Jamie Taylor. Yes, she’s an MK NSD (find a way, make a way, amirite?). And she probably makes significant money (I have no idea…I defer to Tracy et al for that info).
BUT: her MK title does NOT translate into other “industries.” Just her social media posts alone (which she uses to “work her business”) are immature, tacky, riddled with typos, and frankly embarrassing in ANY OTHER INDUSTRY besides MLM. Sure, she might be making over 10k per month with MK (I really have no idea). BUT if the MK gravy train were to turn off the spigot at any time, she will NOT be able to attain a similar “executive” position in a non-MLM company making anywhere near that amount. I promise that.
If she were to apply for even a mid-level position at a non-MLM company, her application wouldn’t make it past the initial stage once they looked her up online and saw the grade-school slumber party social media posts she uses to drive her “business.” Hell, if I were the hiring manager I *might* move her beyond the first screening if she would just take the time to PROOFREAD and consider even BASIC GRAMMAR in those juvenile social media posts.
But instead, her “body of work” carries NO weight except for within the little insular world of MK. (Same thoughts for her protégée Chelsea Adkins… her social media posts that supposedly are part of her “working her business” would have me tossing her resume in the trash if I were filling any type of sales management position.)
I hope this is a good answer as to why so many mediocre MK directors try to parlay their lukewarm MK “careers” into successful business coaching gigs:
First, they’re experiencing some degree of failure as directors and this has them wanting to get out of their positions. This alone should raise major red flags to anyone considering paying them for “coaching.” If they hold the keys to success in that position, why on earth would they leave that position? It’s one thing if they leave the position to do something COMPLETELY different (i.e. leaving MK directorship to teach middle school math… two different worlds and fair enough). BUT if they leave their MK position and then turn around and attempt to make a business of trying to tell OTHERS how to succeed at the position that they JUST LEFT, they’ve lost every bit of credibility they may have had.
The excuse list for why they left directorship (and thus why you should still trust them to coach YOU to do better than THEY did) will be miles long: personal stuff, family stuff, personal family stuff, illness (of my second cousin twice removed), God put this on my heart, God told me to leave, God told me I should be leading you, I hate the directors suit (whoopsies, truthiness just leaked out)… there will be no shortage of reasons they give as to why you should PAY a dropout to guide you to the success that they couldn’t attain themselves. And here’s where the potential fool and his money are hopefully not parted.
Why would you pay to hear “advice” about how to achieve something from someone who FAILED TO ACHIEVE THE ONE THING YOU WANT TO LEARN ABOUT? You shouldn’t. And I hope every lurker reading this realizes that.
They tout this new coaching gig because they really think they have no other options. But that’s not true. Actually, they have options..many options. But they won’t consider any options that are “beneath” them. Most of them could, if they were willing to earn fair pay at an hourly wage job, do so. There are a ton of companies hiring right now. Many of the jobs are low-paying. But they have benefits!
Now maybe that’s not for them. Instead they could (because they’ve been killing it in MK and thus have tons of money saved up) GO BACK TO SCHOOL and get a degree in a fulfilling field (I’d suggest nursing, but they especially make fun of nursing… LMAO, the career nurses here on PT are absolutely KILLING IT financially… CardiacRN case in point).
Or, heaven forbid, they could don a UNIFORM *collective ICK from the entire MK “independent sales force”* and go to WORK in any type of service industry. But if you’re working at a J.O.B. where you don’t get to “make your own schedule” and you’re at the supposed bottom of a “pyramid” of managers and CEOs above you, how can you ever attain the unlimited income that MLM promises?
Plus, (and maybe most importantly for some of them such as Kimberly Perkins et al), how can you call yourself a “boss babe” in front of your friends/family/social media when you are working FOR someone else and at a schedule that you yourself didn’t set? Nah, I’ll just proclaim to be a “business coach” and profess to hold the key to success that I personally was woefully unable to find for myself when I was in the MK grind.
If even ONE potential “coaching” client of Kimberly Perkins or any of her ilk sees this and chooses to NOT pay for any of these coaching services, we can call this a “win.” I will!
*dismounts soapbox and thanks everyone for their patience*