1. This is not how capitalization works. Mess.

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   • It’s not how capitalism works either.

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     • I dunno, DA. Capitalism seems to be working out just fine for MK Corporation.

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       • Well, what Mary Kay does is not capitalism. In capitalism you have a free market driven by consumer choice. Within Mary Kay, the MLM is a completely closed system with a captive audience. Consider how most free-market beauty product consumers freely choose brands other than Mary Kay! Meanwhile, nearly all of Mary Kay sales are internal to the sales force, with only a small fraction going to outside consumers.

         You are certainly free to rip on capitalism, but please don’t blame what Mary Kay does on capitalism. It would be far more appropriate to blame the snake-oil salesmen of old for today’s MLMs. The supplements and essential oil MLMs are probably the more literal descendants of Clark Stanley. But the elusive “opportunity” all these MLMs peddle is even more sketch than the efficacy claims of the products Stanley and modern MLMers promote.

         “Pay me now for a chance to make more money later.” This is what the MLM opportunity boils down to.

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         • Well said! Interesting that Mary Kay worked for Stanley home products (and one of her seven husbands did too) before starting her own MLM.

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           • Husband #2. Clarence Blair Eckman was a district manager for Stanley, lived in a nice house near the country club. Divorced with two grown sons.

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         • That’s why I specified the corporation: it’s working out very well for lining their pockets. As for the consultants who are being sucked dry, not our fault. Shoulda done the research first. Caveat emptor and all that.

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         • “I’ll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today” J. Wellington Wimpy.

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           • It’s not often I hear a Popeye reference these days. Thank you!

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             • I guess I’m feeling old today( or Tuesday) My dear Data Junkie.

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             • When we were teenagers, my cousin and I would watch Popeye cartoons in syndication on broadcast TV, weekday afternoons after school. Our favorites were the old black-and-white ones, where Popeye would eat the spinach, fanfare would play, and a straight two-minute pummeling of Bluto (or Brutus, as he was called in the earlier ones), by Popeye, would ensue. Up a ladder and down the other side, across scaffolding, over the river and through the woods, Popeye would be a blur of fists, singing “Tyah, tee-tyah-tyah-tyahhhhh!” while walloping Brutus/Bluto to a ragged pulp. We would laugh and laugh.
               We were easily amused.

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           • Heck, I’ll throw in a Barney Miller reference for good measure: very well put.

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             • I bet Popinki watched Hatchy Milatchy.

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             • I think my favorite Barney Miller scene was when they brought in a college kid and his science project, not knowing for sure what it was. The kid said it was a model of an atomic bomb, which scared everyone half to death, except the bomb squad guy, who looked skeptical and said, “Naahhh!”

               Then Dietrich sauntered in and casually asked, “Hey, where the hell’d you get the atomic bomb?”

               I later learned there was a technical error in the plot, because the kid said it wouldn’t work without plutonium. In fact, it wouldn’t have worked with plutonium, either. The design was the gun- or “Little Boy”-type, which used uranium 235. Plutonium detonation requires implosion (as in the “Fat Man” bomb), to achieve critical mass fast enough that it doesn’t predetonate, or “fizzle.”

               (Dear Lord, I have a lot of useless trivia in my head. I remember not only old Barney Miller episodes, but the details of their plot holes.)

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     • Hey Canadian, you made me spit out my Independence Day libation with that one! My made in the USA Tito’s vodka!

       I love it. Cheers!

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2. I am deeply bothered by this website, and I’m sure you’ve heard that before….

   Yes, we have and I’ sure that you personally will not be adding an original discussion point to our collective experiences.

   What is it that you felt so badly burned in Mary Kay, you felt the need to put time and energy such as this to a culture of women who are only making there (sic) own lives better?

   Better never means better for everyone…It always means worse for some. Atwood, The Handmaid’s Tale.

   In order to make a profit in Mary Kay Wagner Rogers Eckman Weaver Louis Miller Hallenbeck Ash’s company, others have to make a loss. That’s not making everyone’s life better.

   Yes, Mary Kay is a Culture… We are a breed of women who have a God given desire in our hearts, not necessarly(sic) Mary Kay… but Mary Kay just happens to be the way to pay for or provide the abundant lifestyes (sic)we so desire, and Every Women Desires more….

   If it’s is a desire placed in your hearts by a supernatural entity, I don’t think it’s a God whose human form spoke repeatedly on helping the poor by giving up your money and possessions to help them.

   What makes a Business Successful is plan and simple W.O.R.K!! You have to work for it, and thats (sic) it. “Pink Truth” for me is that I Create it, and NO ONE Person is responsible for the success or failure but myself.

   If you alone are the creator of your success, then why do we see the constant begging for pity purchases from “successful” directors like Priceless Chels or Jaime, Somer or Heather. all of them along with countless others are begging their downlines to streeeeeatccch that little bit more because it’s the end of the year and they have aggressively high quotas to fill?

   How about You, You were given an OPPORTUNITY not a get rich quick scheme, but a way that you could have the right to Choose HOW YOU want to live, not the way your circumstances or the neighborhood you live in or your race, or Who your Parents are.,/i>

   Suppose I want to live by not exploiting other people for my gain, Ms. Consultomer? Because that’s what Mary Kay along with all other companies that operate on an MLM premise do.

   YOU Create it not Your Sales Director or Recruiter, or the NSD, they are just the ones who have come before you to Encourage You to Keep Trying Don’t Give Up, The Desires of our Hearts are there for a reason, not a season, But to Fullfill (sic)the Purpose of the Almighty, God 1st, Family 2nd, and Career 3rd!!

   I’m pretty sure God doesn’t care about your fauxotunity. I know for a fact that your worship at the feet of your golden idol Mary Kay Wagner Rogers Eckman Weaver Louis Miller Hallenbeck Ash is against scripture.
   Meanwhile the likes of Heather is begging for over $50, 000 before the end of today, June 30th. All she and those like her care about is her bottom line, general you are simply just a wallet she can plunder at will.

   I will not be visiting this site ever again,

   I don’t think I’ll miss you if you don’t return.

   I’ve already (sic)

   Already what? Run out of ideas? Run Out of ranDom capitaLisaTions?

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   • Maybe I’m lazy, but it takes so much effort to capitalize a word that I cannot understand why she’d voluntarily give herself that much extra work. Certainly not an income-generating activity. If she’d just make one phone call for every unnecessary capital letter, she would sell so much more! (Even if she’s one who claims to not be in MK…all of these critics lie about that).

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3. Oh, dear, this one’s not just drinking the Kool-Aid; she’s got an IV hooked up.

   Of course it’s not a get rich quick scheme. The point of this site is to show that it’s not a get rich at any speed scheme – it’s a get poor scheme, whether that happens in the blink of an eye or slowly over time. Less than 1% of the people in MLM make any kind of money, and only a fraction of those make anything resembling a living wage, hardly the “you get out of it what you put in to it” MK likes to brag about.

   The whole “YoU cAn HaVe WhAtEvEr U wAnT iF u WoRk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” (man it’s annoying to type like that) is just their way of foisting the shame and guilt of failure on you when, not if, you wind up in the red. But they have to hide it because otherwise they won’t be able to continue to attract wide-eyed, naive special snowflakes destined by god and Mary Kay for greatness (you know, people like you) in order to suck the cash out of your wallets.

   But if Mary Kay is mostest wonderfulest thing ever, why does criticism of it bother you so much? Why waste your time here instead of gloating over your bank account? Why not hop into your free pink Caddy and breeze on over to the rich section of town to deliver a tiny pink package to some grateful client who paid full retail?

   Let me guess: your bank account isn’t gloatworthy right now, you’ve found out the free car is a lie, and that there’s zero demand for the products.

   I’m guessing you’re fairly new and still in the honeymoon stage, where MK is the greatest thing ever and you can still make it work if you try. It’s not, it won’t, and you can’t. It’s not your fault and it’s not that you don’t work hard enough or want it badly enough. The MLM system is against you from the start. But that’s a realization you’re not ready for yet. I just hope you are before your first year is up so that you can send back your inventory and recoup some of your losses.

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   • There’s a converter! https://textconverter.com/randomize-text-case (MAN IT’s AnNOYINg to TYpe liKe THAt)

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     • LOL oF cOUrsE theRE Is!

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4. “…Mary Kay is a Culture… ”

   Mary Kay is a Cult.

   There. I fixed it for you.

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   • Aaand now I have the Karma Chameleon ear worm. Thank you.

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5. It sounds like saying a dream was given by God is a way to make it sound legitimate. I was in another MLM and it seemed they used God giving you a dream is a way to dress up plain old greed. In Scripture God has blessed people with wealth, but not everybody and money or a certain lifestyle shouldn’t be an idol. In fact Jesus himself said you can’t serve two masters, it is either God or money. Also important is not to lie and including that is intentionally misleading people without directly saying the a lie (husband unawareness plan). That means don’t lie to your spouse about how much you spend or how much you earn on MK, don’t push this ‘opportunity’ on other women as a way to make money when you are struggling to sell and recruit, don’t urge women to buy inventory they don’t need and you know they most likely will not be able to sell, show your highest check and present it as an average, etc. It would be much more honorable to God to fail in MK because you chose not to deceive people than to succeed by lying.

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6. “not a get rich quick scheme” – Correct. It’s a “get in debt inevitably” scheme for most of the participants. The speed at which your debt piles up is up to you, but the only way you make money in MLMs is to get your recruits to lose money.

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   • Hey, if you start with the “full store” inventory package (lol), you can achieve debt in no time!

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7. Ma’am, I don’t think you and I are reading the same Bible. Jesus said “go forth and make disciples of all nations”, not “go forth and make Pink Cadillac drivers of all nations”.

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   • My town has a new pink Caddy director. I’d seen the same one around for a few years (Ohio vanity tag of “YES U CAN” which I think somebody here figured out was a director out of maybe St. Clairsville Ohio, which makes sense). But the newest one has WV tags! Can any of you guys see if there’s a pink Caddy director perhaps in the Wheeling/Morgantown/northern panhandle part of WV? I doubt the entire state has more than a few so if you find any such directors in WV let me know.

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8. These Critics all think this site is a personal vendetta; that we’re all Mary Kay cast-offs who couldn’t cut the mustard and want to lash out. Well, it’s not and we’re not.

   Mary Kay, like all MLMs, is a scam. It’s a scam where the majority of the company’s profits come from the personal loss of consultants. People caught up in a scam lose money not because they didn’t work hard enough, but because it’s a scam.

   I was never in MK or any other MLM. No one can accuse me of being bitter or wanting revenge. My motivation is purely to warn others away from thes wolves in sheeps’ clothing.

   This writer should be “bothered” not by Pink Truth, but by Mary Kay Corp taking her for a ride.

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   • “It’s a scam where the majority of the company’s profits come from the personal loss of consultants.”

     Well said. And my challenge to any MLM promoter: “Show me a downline in any MLM that is profitable in the aggregate. Pick any MLMer anywhere in the pyramid as your starting point, then show the P&L from that point downward (include all former and current members of that downline).”

     They can’t, of course, because MLM downlines MUST lose money for the system to work. Those downline losses are built into the system, and are what feed the entire machine!

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     • I once did a thought experiment: is it possible to design an MLM company that isn’t a scam? I was finished in about 30 seconds, because once you trim away the bits that make MLM the scam that it is — unlimited recruiting, no tracking of sales, rewarding orders rather than sales to non-members, no protected territories, etc. — it clearly wasn’t MLM anymore. It was a conventional company that offers real employment opportunities.

       That’s right: the dreaded J.O.B. is what you offer when your company business model is not a scam.

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       • When you start protecting territories and rewarding sales to actual customers it turns into a “direct sales” company, the way Fuller Brush, Watkins flavors, and many others were.

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9. “the abundant lifestyles we so desire”

   Well, we know where your prioritie$ are. I suggest you stay away from prosperity-gospel preachers and those who claim that, “God spoke to me about you…He wants you in Mary Kay…He put that dream in your heart for a reason.”

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10. Too late guys, she’s already

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    • Oh, we know she’s already.

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11. Like any MLM, it’s not much of a get rich slowly scheme either.

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