Another Look at Maggie’s Apple Corps
Written by Parsons Green
I recently checked in with Maggie Butcher and her Apple Corp Unit. 40 years as a Cadillac director, but never a national sales director, and not even close. That means no retirement and continuing the grind of monthly production as long as possible.
In February, 45 of Maggie’s consultants ordered, for a total of $16,450 wholesale. (Note: Cadillac required production averages to $19,000 wholesale per month, so Maggie has sadly fallen short!)
9 consultants ordered at least $600 in wholesale and earned a fabulous wallet (with zipper AND chain). The March prize is a combination mirror and comb.
Maggie had a special contest for the March Double Credit prize. If the unit as a whole gets $10,000 in wholesale orders, Maggie will offer cash back on wholesale orders – between $10 and $30!
Maggie loves to share her team wins. Five of her consultants had weeks where they sold more than $300! Five. FIVE. We celebrate five whole women selling more than $300. 
One of her consultants met with 6 new customers, sold 4 sets and did 10 Income Producing Activities. (Where’s the income though?)
Maggie sold to 16 customers, and 10 of those sales were over $100.
Maggie also recognizes National and Princess Courts. Because none of her consultants are yet in those courts, she also celebrates a special Maggie’s Court. Five of her consultants are in that court.
Maggie then gives a breakdown of everyone’s wholesale orders.
Maggie’s has no offspring directors and no DIQs. She does have a Team Leader though!
Maggie gives recognition for those consultants who joined Mary Kay that month and have 25 years or more of ordering. This month she had 7.
Maggie also gives a prize if she has 13 or more consultants who have a party with $100 or more sales that month. There were 45 parties that qualified. and two winners who each won $100. 
Maggie also rewards consultants who are working their business. Look at all the ways you can earn money (“bucks for building”) just by selling products that allegedly fly off the shelves.
She also includes a helpful tally of where everyone is with their bonus cash. Martha Helms has almost $350!
All of this hustle earned Maggie a personal recruiter check of $409 and a directors check of $4,208. This is in addition to her cash from retail sales. These checks then pay for all of Maggie’s prizes and payouts to her team. After she pays her business expenses, Maggie *might* be netting $40k out of her business. Wow!
Maggie has been in Mary Kay for more than 40 years. As a brand new consultant, will you ever be able to duplicate her “success”?
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OMG!!!! A virtual tour of Mary Kay alphabet of surnames’ office!!!! Be still my beating heart. What a prize!!!!
Such reward much prize. Because it’s perfectly normal to pay a pilgrimage to your dead boss’s shrine, sorry office, who went to the great lipstick factory in the sky a quarter of a century ago and not cultic at all…
Exactly my thoughts! What the heck? A virtual tour????
Not even your dead boss because you are INDEPENDENT. And heck we do not treat our founding fathers with that level of worship and they founded something that has lasted 249 years and 9 months (I’ve got the under for lasting to 250 years).
If you really want a virtual tour of Mary Kay Husband-Conga-Line Ash’s office, just go to YouTube. There are multiple videos of her office there and you don’t have to buy anything.
That’s probably what they’ll end up using (or similar) if/when the building is sold and the company moves out. No more office tours. (sad trombone sound here)
They don’t have a MK home to tour anymore (I don’t think), without a shrine to visit, it would be interesting to see how that would play out.
We’ll see where they end up. I bet they try to recreate her office or make a generic museum where her possessions are displayed outside the context of a regular office.
My salary isn’t great, but I get it for showing up for 8 hours a day and 5 days a week. The health benefits and PTO are fantastic. I get a pension. I do my specific job plus a few extra tasks that aren’t particularly onerous, and I leave it behind at 4:30 pm every day. Weekends are my own.
It paid for my car. I can have the clothes and shoes and food that I like, can heat and cool the house, pursue my hobbies. I can afford vet care for the cats. An expensive emergency is aggravating but not an unbearable financial hit.
Maggie has to spend 24/7/365 hustling, exhorting, hurrying, begging, worrying, lying, celebrating, hoping, motivating, fussing, and basically making me tired just reading about it. No benefits, no time off, no promise of a car next month, no pension.
All that for less than I make for a hell of a lot less stress.
Oh, and her underlings get to do all that, too, and earn peanuts for the privilege.
No thank you.
Same here. Pay not great but WFH, everything is paid off, and I get really good benefits including generous PTO, health insurance, 401k matching, the usual stuff, plus other perks like coverage for attorney fees, other medical reimbursement, and pet insurance. When my 8 hrs is done it’s DONE. When I’m offered OT it’s 1.5 the hourly. I can live comfortably in an HCOL area.
Plus I don’t have to recruit anyone, I don’t have to view everyone I meet as a target,and zoom meetings are legit business, not indoctrination calls.
Maggie also recognizes National and Princess Courts. Because none of her consultants are yet in those courts, she also celebrates a special Maggie’s Court. Five of her consultants are in that court.
You must be truly desperate..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M22Kct61Co
Maggie has seven consultomers with over two hundred and fifty years worth of experience as a consultant between them and yet the highest honour any of them is currently achieving is ” Star Team Builder”.
If some-one offered me those figures as an opportunity for vast, uncapped wealth I’d be side-eyeing them so hard.
On another note, with the massive aviation strikes by Lufthansa/Swiss Air pilots and cabin crew, any news about the Switzerland trip?
I heard that some directors are having 12-hour delays and lost luggage. Is this true?
Lufthansa aren’t known as Losthansa in the industry for nothing! I can imagine a few Dacia LV style rants on social media (Dacia had her fake LV stolen and blew up Delta on Facebook – I’m sure they were quaking in their boots and called an EGM to discuss this major crisis…). Having said that I can’t imagine any handling agent wanting free MK makeup. There’s a hilarious post on r/AntiMLM where a porch bandit opened an MK box and didn’t take anything. Not even thieves want Mary Kay! If you sell anything on eBay and have any leftover MK boxes it’ll make them theftproof although probably scare your buyer into thinking you’ve just signed them up as a mediocre makeup pusher so there is that downside.
Per grown kiddo pilot:
Lufthansa pilots are under contract negotiations. Their labor laws allow them to strike much easier than we can, so they force the airline to realize how important workers are. Meanwhile, here stateside, to strike takes an act of god. They are after pay that reflects their American counterparts. Legacy EU airline pilots, on average, make about 25% less than DL/UA/AA (Delta, United, American). Air Canada finally got their contract last year. The previous contract was about 40% less pay than the big three here.
We always got the fuzzy end of the lollipop, a lot of my colleagues moved stateside because of better pay with legacy carriers.
The trip is taking place now??? I look forward to details…
The trip to Switzerland is in September~ they are always on the trip during the anniversary of Mary Kay starting (9/13) ..the prestige trip is usually a few days after the hordes of trip directors
This is just actually really sad and pathetic. Self inflicted tho. Altho I did LOL when I got to the purple double credit section. IF they do $10K in wholesale, and you buy $225 worth of stuff you don’t need on your shelf (MyShop) then you could win “almost shipping cost” back at $10. WTF???
Woohoo! We’re rolling in it! Almost free shipping. Be still my heart! I bought a bottle of acne cream on Amazon. Free shipping and set me back just under £10 for a bottle. Amazon always have sales on Garnier so I never pay full price and get free next day delivery.
“As a brand new consultant, will you ever be able to duplicate her ‘success’?”
Put another way…
How many new downline consultants did Maggie recruit over 40 years to achieve and maintain this level of success? How much money did those recruits lose, individually and in the aggregate, as they washed out?
How many, if any, went on to eventually turn a true business profit?
These numbers would be shocking to prospective recruits, and should make them question whether Maggie’s terrible downline financial track record is worth their time/money investment.
But…but if you spend $225 you *almost* get free shipping! Bump that up to $600 in unneeded crap and you get a FREE MIRROR Y’ALL!!! Such profit much income many rewards!
I count 15 inactive or terminated consultomers here in one month so the churn is very real. Using industry information averages on MLMs 0.01% would have broken even or made a $1 profit. The other 99.9% lost money.
Might give that a pass thanks. It’s literally more profitable hunting under the sofa for lost change and that doesn’t clog your garage with debt, sorry, inventory that you can never sell in a month of Sundays.
The real test…how much has she paid in co-pays for her car and how much inventory does she have????
So it looks like only 9 paid over $600 which pushes the average purchase of the rest of the purchasers to around $300. And I’m sure it’s actually lower. So who has got a successful business going? Besides MKult.
“we *invested* in product in February”
What a crappy investment. But I guess they all just figure it’s like a giant ATM that is sitting in their closet and will be easy to sell and make that coveted 50% profit.
Maggie hasn’t published a newsletter for March results yet but she did share this on her website.
Mary Kay offered Double Credit for our wholesale orders RETAIL amount March 1st-15th with a cap of $10,000ws and we did it!! $10,371! Thank you to the 31 consultants who placed orders during this Double Credit window as your wholesale doubled the retail that counts toward your Court of Sales spot in our Unit when the Seminar year closes on June 30th!! I love rewarding you when our Team Effort pulls together to reach the goal!! Twila Ryan’s order pushed us over along with Kimberlee Klaus’s order–both came in about the same time!! I love to meet a Mary Kay company-offered goal!!!
Thank you to all!!! Here is the contest and here are our CASH winners:
$1000+ws: Martha Helms from Lafayette, IN
$ 600+ws: Elaine Cunningham from Fishers, IN
Katherine Soskin from Los Lunas, NM
Alexis Elizondo from Albuquerque, NM
$ 400+ws: Rachael Crawford from Caledonia, MI
Alysen Dirks from Martinsburg, WV
$ 225+ws: Ila Smith from Deer Lodge, MT
Lori Holstein from Fort Myers, FL
Irene Morgan from Noblesville, IN
Fariba Rahnamai from Austin, TX
Linda Zollar from St Augustine, FL
Anne Ruch from Glendale, AZ
Eva Johnson from Concord, NC
Joyce Dornbier from Wesley, IA
Janet Chisolm-Richard from Summerville, SC
Guadalupe Fernandez from New Holstein, WI
Denise Malayeri from Bloomington, IN
Kelly Johnson from Lincoln, NE
Becky Meredith from Sheridan, IN
Kathleen Green from Pharr, TX
Twila Ryan from Holly Springs, GA
Kimberlee Klaus from St Charles, MO
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We are a TEAM!!!
When the TEAM works, the DREAM works!!!
Thank you to our 49 Consultants who placed wholesale orders in March to total $17,200 in wholesale dollars toward our year long retail Circle of Achievement Unit Goal! And welcome to a new Team Member on Becky Meredith’s Team~~Vivianne Sventeck! She started using Mary Kay products in the ’70’s and has been Becky’s client since Dec 20th, 2021. They are friends already and will enjoy building their businesses! Welcome to Vivian!
This month, look at your customer list and contact or call some of them for a Product Review Appt. This is a care
call to make sure each customer is using her products correctly. After the review, ask if there are any products
running low that need to be replaced as she may be out of some products AND THEN teach about a couple new products. I plan to focus on teaching the benefits of the New Cream Mask and the Replenishing Serum C+E. You can also touch on the new shimmer shadows that our customers are raving about! Here is your April Product Review Appts Prize~~ For every 5 customers you reach and connect with either in person over the phone, or virtually by Zoom or Facetime, you earn $5! So the more you reach this month, the more CASH you can earn! You must send me by email a list of the customers and the results of each call ~~this replaces the IPAs contest for April. When you place your wholesale orders in April, make sure you hit one of the levels in my Summer Buzz Kit promotion below! I like to award New Products before you can order them so you have a head start in learning about them and taking orders ahead so you order as smart as you can! And by “order smart”, I mean order what your customers will buy!
“…make sure you hit one of the levels in my Summer Buzz Kit promotion below! I like to award New Products before you can order them so you have a head start in learning about them.”
You have to “earn” one of the new products so you can “learn about it.” So stupid.
A real sales company would want all salespeople to learn about all the new products ASAP.
Maggie must spend an inordinate amount of time on her newsletter making sure every last team member has their name listed for something. Maggie is stuck in a time warp.
“[T]his replaces the IPAs contest for April.”
I’ll bet it does. I’ll just bet it does.
“And welcome to a new Team Member on Becky Meredith’s Team~~Vivianne Sventeck! She started using Mary Kay products in the ’70’s and has been Becky’s client since Dec 20th, 2021. They are friends already and will enjoy building their businesses! Welcome to Vivian!”
So now Becky gets 4% instead of 50%. It makes no sense in recruiting a customer to be a competitor. That is the major pitfall of MLMing – bye bye customers hello competitors. Real businesses don’t want this as it hurts their bottom line. It’s disastrous to the paltry sales MLMers make.
Yup. That’s why legit sales have territories.
Vivianne Sventeck! She started using Mary Kay products in the ’70’s and has been Becky’s client since Dec 20th, 2021. They are friends already and will enjoy building their businesses! Welcome to Vivian!
So Ms. Sventck is at least 60 or possibly even older. So not enjoying retirement for her.
That’s the worst part – all that work for nothing. No pay, no retirement, no security. Terminated at the whim of the company for any and no reason.
I’ve got to say it: “Maggie’s Apple Corps” sounds like a Nick Jr show for preschoolers, not a group of grown women.
MK Unit names are always cringe. Most if not all MLM groups are. And often have hilariously bad Clipart/Wordart logos. When my dad was in Amway he got a graphics designer to do his logo. Higher ups berated him for not using his upline. Scamway was an expensive mistake but at least a month later he got out. Those kiddy vitamins were VILE. Made me sick. I still remember the taste. My mum, now late, still remembers the useless tampons that ruined her knickers (TMI I know but THEY.ARE.BAD. avoid Scamway tampons ladies!) and don’t think about the washing soap cleaning clothes. It doesn’t. Glister toothpaste – gagworthy and doesn’t clean. Overpriced underperforming products that leave you wondering WTF.
Scamway sells TAMPONS??
There is no emoji for the face I just made.
I wish I was joking. I’m not.
This is so sad. All the work Maggie has put into this scam for literally absolutely nothing positive and 45 years exploiting aka training new predators when her creativity and initiative could have been put to amazing use in a REAL corporate environment. Truly a tragic waste.