This Site is Way Too Negative

Why are you doing this? Anytime I look for something for my business your blog comes up. I do understand that this did not work for you, but its not a blanket experience. It works for some and not for others.

The 4 minutes it takes me to type this isn’t really worth it, but its hard for me to understand where God plays a role in the time and energy you have put into making this website. Its filled with negative rants about how it didn’t work for you. But it does work for others, many others, enough others that it can be given a fair chance. It just seems like you are bitter because it didn’t work for you.

Its hard to believe Wal-Mart does not work for everyone (shoppers, employees, distributors) but it still stands as a multi-billion dollar company…., there are thousand of companies or jobs that just didn’t work for some people, but that does not make it bad for everyone. I truly believe that your analytical and writing skills can be channeled to really do something amazing….just not this. This is just way too negative and I have to find a way to block your site from my searches. I don’t know your name, but I will be praying that God heal your heart from whatever tore a hole in it. God bless.

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  1. >>and I have to find a way to block your site from my searches<<

    It's easy, you see Pink Truth in a search, don't click, Yet you do. and you will again.

    My guess is MK isn't working as well for you as you'd like, since you're scouring the 'net for magic words that are not there.

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    • Right? My thoughts exactly. I’ll admit I’m disappointed that she didn’t admit to having “stumbled” upon this site (although the “waaaah when I search Mary Kay this keeps coming up and I’m forced to read it” excuse is fairly novel). Perhaps remedial “Google 101” class is in order for this one.

      It does seem that these critics just cannot help but stumble and land here, and since this “sharp business owner” cannot seem to willingly choose what she does or doesn’t click on, I urge Tracy to employ some safety measures (such as a “CAREFUL, WATCH YOUR STEP” sign, or rumble strips, or yellow caution tape)…whatever we can do to protect these clumsy Kaybots.

      Oh and I’m preaching to the choir here, but it’s yet another Friday and another Kaybot who offers NO numbers, NO proof…and NO legit, quantifiable, provable argument(s) as to why our figures are wrong.

      *sigh* yet another ‘dime a dozen’ condescending non-small-business-owner with no facts and no clue. When will we have a Friday where an actual director shows up with a schedule C and a legit argument?

      • Oh and to add, this is the second week in a row where the critic uses decent grammar and conservative punctuation. What the heck is up with that?

  2. This site isn’t negative. Your perception of it is as such since it doesn’t fit YOUR narrative and what you’ve been told throughout your MK “career.”

    You’ve been told one thing, yet the evidence provided here is contrary to what has been spouted for decades from MK leadership. It’s hard to fathom that your NSD or SD would ever LIE to you about anything! (And omitting the full truth is a lie by omission.)

    Also, and I will keep saying this until I’m out of breath, please stop praying for those who don’t want it or need it. You have no idea what is “on my heart” or what I need. You and your ilk want to pray for those of us who aren’t like YOU. We purposely do not want to be like you. Stop it.

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  3. “…will be praying that God heal your heart from whatever tore a hole in it.”

    I can help with that. Mary Kay did. Yes, it IS a blanket experience. No, it does not work for others. You just think it does. Mary Kay teaches everyone to only discuss the positive and to fake it til you make it. That means that you lie about your success.

    God plays a role by helping us help others not to get sucked in, drained and ruin their marriages. This is God’s work. We spread the message.

    As far as us “channeling our energy” into this when we could be doing something amazing, If we knew there was even a decent chance that some people could succeed in Mary Kay, this site probably wouldn’t be necessary. We can’t sit idly by and be quiet (as Mary Kay Inc. hopes) while people go deeply in debt, become isolated from family and friends and throw their legit careers down the drain as they pull more people in to do the same.

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    • You know, this week’s critical Consultant (and many others) could, when they send their scathing critiques, divulge to Tracy which National Area they’re under (and even which Senior Director as well) without blowing their anonymity, and Tracy could look into that upline’s Applause numbers and demonstrate (using FACTS) how much less those in the upline are actually earning versus what they’ve bragged about to this consultant. It would be great to show these critics just how much their uplines are lying about earnings. Not that it would be bee-lieved, but it would still be fun to shove some truth in front of them.

  4. “Why are you doing this? Anytime I look for something for my business your blog comes up. I do understand that this did not work for you, but its not a blanket experience. It works for some and not for others.”

    Why? because we can. And because it’s needed. If you keep getting the blog recommended, then you’ve looked before. That’s just how the algorithms of search engines work. Why do huns constantly tell me that the MLM model works for every-one when you are telling me it doesn’t?

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  5. “The 4 minutes it takes me to type this isn’t really worth it, but its hard for me to understand where God plays a role in the time and energy you have put into making this website. Its filled with negative rants about how it didn’t work for you. But it does work for others, many others, enough others that it can be given a fair chance. It just seems like you are bitter because it didn’t work for you.”

    Sorry I didn’t time how long it took me to type my replies. However, God isn’t a micro-manager of my time and energy.
    But MLMs don’t work for it to be given a fair chance, 99% of people, mainly women, lose money and those are facts. So I’m going to pass.
    Please, for the love of little golden retrievers stop policing other people’s emotions. Especially women’s emotions. And more especially women having so-called negative emotions. And avoiding victim blaming would be nice as well.

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  6. “Its hard to believe Wal-Mart does not work for everyone (shoppers, employees, distributors) but it still stands as a multi-billion dollar company…., there are thousand of companies or jobs that just didn’t work for some people, but that does not make it bad for everyone. I truly believe that your analytical and writing skills can be channeled to really do something amazing….just not this. This is just way too negative and I have to find a way to block your site from my searches. I don’t know your name, but I will be praying that God heal your heart from whatever tore a hole in it. God bless.”

    Wal*Mart has a huge number of issues and there are many blogs pointing this out too, Likewise Disney, Amazon et al. But those are different business models than MK and other MLMs.
    The eloquent women, and men, who write with so much passion and compassion are not just crying into their coffee all day, their lives don’t revolve around the blog.
    The fact you find other peoples lived experience “too negative” just shows how much you lack empathy .

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  7. Question for you. Why are you searching the internet for things for your business instead of asking your director? Or the Mary Kay website? Is it because they aren’t giving you actual answers? Are you frustrated by the vagueness? Are you looking for actual concrete solid business advice instead of more of the same toxic positivity bullsh!t?

    You’re looking for answers. You found them. The facts are neither positive or negative. They are just facts.

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  8. OK, fom the top:

    “Why are you doing this?”

    To help people like you who are trapped on the Mary Kay hamster wheel, is why.

    “Anytime I look for something for my business…”

    You do not have a business. You are a commissioned salesperson, under complete control of Mary Kay Corp., who must pay all your own expenses up front. You need to understand that.

    “…your blog comes up.”

    Of course it does; this blog is very popular, and therefore is at or near the top of search results. That should tell you something.

    “I do understand that this did not work for you, but its not a blanket experience.”

    Actually, it is a blanket experience. More than 99% of those who sign up for Mary Kay and other MLMs lose money. That’s not my opinion; it’s a mathematical fact. And you are one of the 99%, which is why you keep seeking answers on the internet. There is an answer, you know: Get. Out. The longer you stay in, the harder it will be for you to leave, and the more money you will lose.

    “It just seems like you are bitter because it didn’t work for you.”

    Speaking for myself, nope, no bitterness here. I was never in Mary Kay or any other MLM. I hate to see people like you getting hurt; that’s all.

    “I truly believe that your analytical and writing skills can be channeled to really do something amazing…”

    They are. This. Site owner Tracy Coenen has a successful career running her own forensic accounting business. She is a professional number cruncher, and is therefore uniquely qualified to reveal the truth behind Mary Kay’s deceptions, like the fact that “million dollar unit sales” is a lie. (Sales aren’t even tracked. As you well know, plenty of MK products are unloaded at cost or never sold at all. MK lies when they double order volume and pretend it reflects sales. Does that strike you as ethical?) You should heed the advice of Tracy and the other contributors here. They know whereof they speak.

    “Its [sic] hard to believe Wal-Mart…”

    Wal-Mart is not an MLM; what they do or don’t do is immaterial. But even Wal-Mart entry-level employees earn more than the average MK Director. (Most Directors make less than minimum wage, if they make anything at all, though they’ll never admit that.)

    “… I will be praying that God heal [sic] your heart…”

    Here’s a better idea: heed James’ advice and pray for wisdom. You need to have your eyes opened to see you’re being taken advantage of, and that you’re being encouraged to take advantage of others by recruiting them under you.

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    • “ its (sic) not a blanket experience”

      Is it wrong that every time I’ve read that line, both in the OP and in our many Truthers’ comments, I literally think about how comfy I am snuggled under my favorite blankies (we are a blankie-positive household…to the point of addiction and having a few dozen more than we will ever need), and how sad it must be for the Kaybots who would love to spend a lazy Saturday cuddled under blankies with their human and furry loved ones rather than spending Saturday dressed in MK-approved attire and stalking potential targets in Target?

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  9. So I googled “how to make money in Mary Kay” and here’s what came up:
    1. an article from The Finance Guy, who concludes that very few people make any money in MK
    2. an article from Money Pantry, which points out that the products are overpriced for the quality. Also, for those who manage to earn some money from MK, the self-employment taxes and lack of benefits will eat up a hefty chunk of that
    3. an article from One More Cup of Coffee that rates MK products as one star and the MK opportunity as one star
    4. Pink Truth
    5. An article entitled “I Was a Mary Consultant for 9 Days”

    I sense a pattern here. Do you?

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  10. The most relevant difference between Walmart or whoever and MLM is that Walmart doesn’t require a person to buy ANY inventory or a hundred miscellaneous items that will ultimately never be fully used as you need SALES to use those items, and MK is only about ordering, not selling.

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    • “MK is only about ordering, not selling.”

      Bingo. Just look at the incentive structure and bonuses in MaryKay. These are all predicated on buying and recruiting. There is no reward from MK for actually selling anything.

      • One of my biggest pet peeves about MK that every consultant seems to completely ignore/brush off is how you CANNOT achieve any rank above basic IBC without recruiting.

        How do they ignore this? Even if you are the NUMBER ONE “seller” in all of MK, even if you personally sell enough to be a “Mary Kay Millionaire” all on your own, even if you literally outsell every director in your upline, if you do NOT recruit, you will NEVER:

        move up in rank;
        earn commission;
        “earn” a trip or a Caddy.

        They tell you that you don’t “need” to recruit to make money or be successful in MK But that’s a lie that they HAVE to tell you that lest they be labeled a pyramid scheme per the FTC.

        Why are Kaybots never questioning this? It just seems so basic to me.

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  11. “ It works for some and not for others.”

    Wait, what? I was told that if I worked my business the way I was told the sky was the limit!!!!!

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  12. This makes me smile! The SEO is working! “Anytime I look for something for my business your blog comes up.”

    “This is just way too negative and I have to find a way to block your site from my searches.” To not see this horrible, negative, dream-stealing site in Google results, put this into your search string:
    -pinktruth.com

  13. “I truly believe that your analytical and writing skills can be channeled to really do something amazing.” Tracy, have you ever considered writing a book?

  14. “Its filled with negative rants about how it didn’t work for you. ”

    Is it? Is it really?
    You know when it “stopped working”? When we told the truth.

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    • PS. Make sure next Monday night at meeting, you ACCURATELY tell your sales, and your hours, and your profit…..’kay Pumpkin?

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