My Appointments Don’t Hold

Poor Nancy S. North, Mary Kay sales director. She has been on the MK hamster wheel as a director since 1983. Yes, that’s 39 years. And her goal according to her website is to become a national sales director in 2016. It looks like Nancy has never even gone on the top director trip, despite all these years in Mary Kay, but it’s her goal again.

All this time in Mary Kay, and she doesn’t know how to get appointments to hold? If that isn’t proof of what a loser “business” this is, I don’t know what is. It’s the system! The pyramid scheme system is what fails you.

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  1. 60 new faces per month? After the first month these will all be distant friends and then on to complete strangers. Good luck with that!

    Image only 1 in 5 will book. That’s 300 new contacts per month, or 10 per day, roughly one per working hour. 1 in 10? That’s two per hour…10 hours per day every day, including weekends and holidays.

    Is this really how you want to be spending your time? Just think of the income that kind of time commitment would bring you in a real job.

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  2. Such a shame. In 39 years she could have built a rock solid REAL career and be making serious money, have a great retirement waiting, have real recognition by her peers and the industry.

    And here she is, fighting for crumbs. It’s depressing 😑

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  3. Women haven’t changed. They’ve wised up. Pink Truth and other sites like this one are doing their job to expose MK as the scam it is. And when your manipulative booking scripts don’t allow for a “no” (Do evenings or weekends work best for you? Evenings? Great! Tuesday or Thursday?) then of course they book. And (shocker!) don’t hold, because they never wanted to book with you in the first place. It’s not that they’re not women of their word. It’s that they know it’s futile to argue with a happy, glittery bulldozer, so they say whatever they have to to get you off the phone and then ghost you.

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  4. Dear Karen, sorry for not “being a woman of my word” and giving you “two days advance warning” of the tornado which meant I had no power for several days. It was very remiss of me.

    As for Laurie wanting to find 3 or 4 women who don’t know each other, that’s a lot more difficult in this interconnected world. My Fb friend knows a friend of one of my real-life friends without any of us knowing about it.

    I got a friend suggestion from FB for some-one who was friends with two of my contacts; my husband who was a customer of her hobby shop and an European friend who she had met on an internet language learning board.

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    • I thought the same thing. Sorry a family member in hospice or a natural disaster kept me from being ‘a woman of my word’ and unable to attend the MK event. It seemed in the post, the woman was more concerned about the parties not holding than the tragedies happening in life of those she booked. There is a lot of emphasis on most women not being a ‘woman of her word’, but I think the MK women should focus inward. You can’t complain about integrity in others and use manipulative scripts to trap women into holding parties, signing onto MK, going to events, or being a consultant. A woman of her word would not show her highest paycheck and act like that is the norm. She wouldn’t use the ‘husband unawareness plan’ on her own husband and convince her downlines to do the same. I imagine most women cancel or no show because they were talked into it and the consultant wouldn’t take ‘no’ for an answer. But I guess it makes them feel better to look for flaws in others than it does to look at their business model.

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  5. Can you imagine being a young new director on this page and seeing a post by a fellow director in for FORTY THREE YEARS and still struggling like this? You’re thinking “Man, I thought it was supposed to be easy by this point and that y’all were making executive income!”

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  6. The “advice” is always the same:
    – Talk to more women
    – Offer bribes/freebies
    – Lay guilt trips
    – Tell little white lies

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  7. Interesting that 2020 was listed as an inflection point in the booking success rate (Laurie Branham Jackson’s post). That was when Mary Kay initiated their $30 sign-up promotion, which likely snagged everyone with even a modicum of interest. That pool of prospects has been thoroughly drained by now.

    Who’s left? No one who wants anything to do with Mary Kay, is who. And that group can be further divided into A) those who can say “no” even when it isn’t offered as an option, and B) those who answer “yes” just to get this pushy Director off their back, knowing they can ghost them later.

    I feel bad for the latter group. They are the type who just want to avoid conflict, only to be labeled by these MLM vultures as not being “women of their word.” Did it not occur to any of these Kaybots that their own manipulative behavior is to blame?

    “People have changed,” they lament. Welcome to the world; everyone and everything have changed. Technology has changed: now caller ID and number blocking don’t even cost extra. Ghosting is easy — much easier than pushing back at an aggressive sales pitch in person.

    Here’s my advice to this group: change your sales pitch and offer “no” as an option. It will be less stressful all around if you stop backing everyone into a corner all the time. Sure, you’ll hear a lot of “no” answers, but it’ll save you time and frustration in the long run.

    And who knows? Maybe hearing “no” enough times will convince you to finally climb down from the hamster wheel. Because that’s by far your best move.

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    • Looks at what was happening world-wide in 2020. There were so many MLMs promising extra money with little outlay and it’s not surprising that more people than usual were glamoured by the potential of elevated earnings.

      I recently checked the number of MKbots near me on their Find A Consultant page. 14 within an hour’s journey. It was eye-opening. How can I without a family or social network going back generations expect to compete with a long time member of a community?

  8. Tangent to people not keeping their appointments: My hairstylist has started charging a no-show fee if you don’t cancel within 24 hours. When you don’t show, that’s money out of his pocket and an appointment that goes unfilled. (He is pretty understanding when emergencies arise – like my friend who went into labor 3 weeks early.) My lash lady also charges a no-show fee for the same reasons. What’s the big difference between these types of appointments and an appointment with a MK lady? *I* made those appointments. *I* want to be there.

    Having said all of that, women (and men) HAVE changed. They’re busier in many cases, have a lot on their plates, and are smarter when it comes to a con, especially the MLM con. This director and her ilk would be smart to recognize that folks are onto them. If I’m making a pampering appointment (massage, facial, hair, nails), I want to be pampered. This means I am not doing a thing…. just keep the wine glass filled until I call uncle.

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  9. My childhood friend is in an mlm and I guarantee she is losing all her friends like me who known her since we were 9! It’s not worth it all around.

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  10. Have they ever thought that maybe ladies just don’t want what they’re selling? Cancellations and No Shows aren’t new, but they grew way more common as my time in MK ended. Sorry, ladies, but $70 masks aren’t in the budget with gas, groceries, and utilities being as high as they are. Get a clue!

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  11. The very last part of Nancy’s “about me” section on her website:

    “ The last thing that Nancy asked Mary Kay Ash before her passing was …….

    “How can I ever thank you for helping me find the gifts that were inside of me? Mary Kay’s response was “Pass it on.”

    I am sure we’ve seen this exact quote on at least one other director’s site. So more than one asked the exact same question of MKA and got the exact same response? Bull.

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