Jamie Taylor National Area Update
It’s been almost a year since we’ve did an update to the lineup in the Jamie Taylor national area in Mary Kay. If you just watch social media, you would think the “Verge Area” is flying high and crushing it. After all, Jamie got to the HIGHEST POSITION in Mary Kay. (All with women maxing out credit cards on her behalf, but we’re not supposed to talk about that!)
Jamie had a long hard road to get to nsd to begin with. She tried over and over, but finally made it after her directors over-ordered using credit cards, as evidenced by this video Jamie made about it. (There is a stunning amount of truth in this video about how “we know” the consultants and directors aren’t making money and are ordering just to reach goals.) At the time she finished the national area, Jamie’s director lineup looked like this:
25 sales directors, including 11 seniors (i.e. has at least one director below her). But not so long after being appointed nsd, Jamie’s area was struggling and losing directors. Here’s that original lineup from 3/31/21 with all the FORMER directors crossed off. Just 5 years later, 18 of 25 women are no longer directors. That’s 72% of the original directors who lost their units.
Well as you certainly remember, Jamie is struggling with her commission checks. Just look back over the last six monthly lists of national sales directors earning more than $10k per month, and you’ll see she missed one month (i.e. commissions less than $10k) and cut a couple others close. To be clear, $10k less all business expenses doesn’t come close to executive income, especially when you have a childlike husband who doesn’t know what he wants to be when he grows up. (They like to say “I retired my husband,” when in reality they’re playing house with a man-child who wants to be a police officer, mechanic, country singer, auto detailing entrepreneur, pastor, lawyer… with a new idea every couple of years.)
Last year Jamie made $125,000 in commissions, but it was HARD. Units are struggling across the board in Mary Kay, and the money does not come easy. Never forget that all business expenses have to be paid from that $125k, and it’s got to be hard to
Mary Kay isn’t playing with these national sales directors. The company is cracking down and ensuring that they earn their cars and trips. Struggling areas aren’t going to be areas much longer. You can see so many of the pyramid-toppers getting their side businesses rolling to supplement the earnings and be an option if they lose their areas or the company implodes.
So where does Jamie’s area stand now? She has 23 directors, with 5 first line and 18 second line. This is a weak area when it comes to Jamie’s commission. Remember that in order to become an nsd, you must have 20 sales directors under you with at least 10 of them first line. Jamie has half of that. First line sales directors pay the nsd 9% commission, while second line only pays 4%. If Jamie wants to start making more money, she’s going to need to get to recruiting for herself!
Some of these are retreads. For example, Carly Phetteplace just got back her directorship. Her story is that she “stepped down” when she had lots going on. The truth is that she lost her directorship for not making production. It’s fine if you want to do the hamster wheel all over again and pretend that *this time* it’s different. But at least tell the truth about what happened.
Kiersten Houston is another one who became a director and lost her unit within a few months. It took her nearly a year of DIQ tries before she became a director again. Let’s see how long she can hold onto this one.
Another fun fact: I started putting this together in January, and finally got back around to it now. In that time, 6 of Jamie’s directors have lost their units and so they’re not on the above list. Those who have been demoted include Autumn Buckner, Destini Kasee, Jenna Scott, Kaitlyn Stinespring, Lauren Elswick, Lori Kuffner.
At least Kaitlyn is already back on it. She’ll be a director again! Kaitlyn makes it sound like she recruited 307 women. Who knows which family she’s really talking about, but this sounds impressive.
Kaitlyn better hurry up and get back to director. After all, her husband thinks women shouldn’t have excuses. 
Does anyone want to break it to Adam that Kaitlyn didn’t “sell a ton” to finish DIQ, and instead she put that production on a credit card?
No matter how successful these Mary Kay ladies tell you they are, always know that the truth is much different. Pink Truth exists to keep exposing this truth over and over and over again.
The Verge area is going to have to get on the recruiting game if they want to resurrect Jamie’s commission checks. As Jamie says, recruiting is “hunting.” Potential Mary Kay consultant, you are the prey.
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If Adam Stinespring actually wrote those paeans to his wife, I’m a monkey’s uncle. And if she did drag a toddler with her on her journey of annoyance, and that wasn’t just a posed photo op, she’s stupider than a glass hammer. Toddlers are not known for their patience, silence, ability to entertain themselves, or long attention spans.
As Mommy of the Year Jamie found out when her own daughter dared intrude on her “work” and she Hulkarened out on the poor kid. https://www.pinktruth.com/2025/04/02/jamie-taylors-child-bothers-her/
Crash and burn, Jamie.
It’s practically a trope that when an MLM hun goes live, one of her children wants/needs her attention and she either ignores them or gives them a second of her attention. I know it happens to many other content creators as well but they either mute and turn away or stop streaming to sort out the problem.
During one of Careless Casie’s “Missing Jacket” video rants, she stopped to glare at one of her children simply passing behind her. If it’s that important to record, then ensure that you are not going to be interrupted or edit it before releasing.
The whole sales director gig is such a scam. Do some actually “do it right” and stay directors for years, yes maybe. However, it is very rare. The final time I joined Mary Kay, was to help a friend in DIQ. I had been out for many years had moved away and then moved back to my home town where my very first Mary Kay “career” was started. She told me it was different now, “women are signing on with $3,600 wholesale orders, they’re treating it like a business” My town now had 7 Mary Kay Sales Directors, when I moved away, there was 1. For a brief minute I thought maybe it was different now. I was reluctant but was still using some of the products so I signed on to help her knowing I was going to be a personal use consultant and then probably quit. She bought the black suit, was driving the Pontiac Vibe and our National was coming to her debut! During her new director’s speech she actually admitted she finished DIQ by putting in a big order knowing she would eventually sell it! I thought our National was going to have a heart attack. Needless to say about 4 months later my director lost her unit and her car and I quit for the very last time mad at myself for getting sucked back in. Nothing had changed and it never will.
The Mary Kay bathtub never stops draining !
Also I am shocked that Zac is almost done with his second year of law school!!!
Don’t get too excited. Until he actually finishes and holds a job for more than a year, nothing has really been accomplished. My guess is that he’ll take a job, flame out quickly, open his own firm (LOLOLOLOLOL) and flounder around for a few years committing all sorts of malpractice on behalf of clients before he finds a new true calling that God revealed to him.
“This is what relentless looks like…”
No, Adam, that is what the outdated door-to-door sales model looked like back in the 1970s. It was a difficult and suspicious business back then, and has become the butt of a joke today.
Lather, rinse, repeat around the swirling drain….
Looking at all those names makes me wonder how much credit card debt all of these women now have – it must be horrific!
Placing orders for inventory you do not need and will never sell is not a career!
Priceless Chels’ hubby recently un-retired himself. I guess he was bored or something?
Guess racing ATVs for a living didn’t work out?