Naomi Still Struggles
Written by Parsons Green
Naomi State is back to ask her sister directors for help. She meets guests at parties, and schedules a follow up appointment with them so she can share the Mary Kay flopportunity with them. Naomi needs them to join her team, because she needs them to order inventory to count towards her monthly production totals. If they don’t order, she’s has to make up the shortfall herself. (This is a constant struggle for almost all MK sales directors… buying extra products to meet minimums.)
She shared two recent messages from her guests. (I blurred out the name and phone number because she sure didn’t!) Naomi understands that they may say no after her chat, but she just wants them to listen.
Taryn Sneed tells the prospect she needs to conduct a certain number of interviews. Please let her buy you a coffee!
Charlotte Staggs learned from her nsd. Never take no. Keep asking.
Tami Deines also shared two screenshots (as well as the prospect’s phone number too.) She was going to meet her for drinks. The prospect cancelled on her, but wished her luck in the business. Tami asked if she could meet her for coffee instead. The prospect agreed to that, but has not yet cancelled.
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Johana Giese suggests the prospect become a talent scout. Amy Davis McCann shares as much as she can with the prospect at the party so she can recruit on the spot. Tonya Folmar Gary likes asking for feedback.
Namoi can’t get anyone to agree to talk to her about Mary Kay, but she’s convinced she’s going on the top director trip to Rome next year.
Again and again, directors share in their own words how hard it is to find people to have parties. Those that do, show no interest in signing up for this business. Naomi, it’s time you realize – Mary Kay, people are just not into you.
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These poor targets. Trying to be nice while having zero interest in MLM. Any time spent is charity. Any subsequent purchase is pity. A little self awareness on the part of the MLMer would stop this madness.
But it seems the first order of business in MLM indoctrination is to damage or destroy that internal cringe-o-meter!
If the flopportunity is so great, why do you have to nag, wheedle, bribe, beg, cajole, lie, and bust out the Manipulation Master’s Playbook just to get an interview?
The point of an interview isn’t just to find someone to fill a job. The interviewee is also to see if it’s right for them. Can you imagine canceling an interview or turning down a job offer and the interviewer bugging you nonstop about why not and what’s holding you back and I’ll bring you coffee if you’ll just listen and I was just a helpless waif when I started here and I’m in a contest to interview more than the others please help.
It wouldn’t make you want that job you already didn’t want, would it? It wouldn’t make you like that person, and you wouldn’t want to further their career for them because WTAF. You’d tell everyone about your awful experience and maybe even complain to their superiors.
Finally, no means no. It doesn’t matter if it’s said flat out, a polite “sorry, but”, or ghosting. Refusing to respect that is when you stop seeing people as people and start seeing them as tools.
After 20 something years as a director, I was always confused as to why MK Corporate, who was making more money than me, couldn’t invest in research to help me find the right words to get more interviews. If that’s what made them more money, and they consistent taught about recruiting, why couldn’t their MK legally groomed words ever insure an interview for me? It’s like the sales force saw what they gave us to work with and decided that would never work and then we were on our own to manipulate our customers to get anything to happen. So ick.
That’s the rub. Legally acceptable language will never sell. They need the sales force to be unofficially grossly exaggerating the likelihood and level of participant success. They prefer that none of this be written down or shared on social media. Testimonials and potentials are best shared as word of mouth or on a whiteboard in-person only!
This is why MLMs invite you to a meeting instead of sending you a written prospectus.
pushy pushy pushy
That’s a red flag right there.
“I won’t twist your arm to join, but I’ll nearly break it to get you to listen.” The words from my former recruiter/sale director on how to get someone to hear the “opportunity.” Gross.
Naomi StateIf they get info and decide it’s not for them I’m totally fine with that but when they assume they know what they are saying no to … it’s frustrating. 🙁
So getting information is good but deciding not to join Naomi’s team because of that information is bad‽
Leave people alone when they say “no” and stop making an ass out of yourself.
Charlotte Staggs learned from her nsd. Never take no. Keep asking.
What a wonderful role model Charlotte and her ilk must be to the young people in their lives. Young women are being told that their “Nos” aren’t being taken seriously while young men are having “Rape Culture” re-enforced whether Charlotte understands that or not.
Winds me up as a male feminist, agree 100% with you, NO means NO. Women’s “no” must be respected.
If I say no and you don’t respect that, I’m permanently blocking your pushy ass.
No means NO.
No is a complete sentence. Often use it myself
IIRC, Ego Annoyo wants her “NO means NO” to be taken at face value but I suspect any woman saying “No ” to her is completely ignored.
Likewise all those NSDs who self-righteously proclaim “When I say ‘NO’ to YOUR pyramid scheme it’s a thought-terminating “NO I don’t want to be involved.” . ut do not allow any-one else that privilege.
I realized over the weekend (I am 46!) that I have a difficult time just giving a NO. I subconsciously will adjust it to a phony no. Someone asked me (via text) if I wanted to do some random thing. I was already annoyed with that individual, so rather than say something to soften the No, like perhaps, Oh I am busy, thanks for thinking of me, etc; I simply responded “No” … it felt strange! I felt moderately rude. I didn’t even say No thank you.
This could also be a midwestern woman thing. Teacher thing. Mom thing. But I plan to try it again!
For what it’s worth, I was part of MK for over two decades. Ick.
It’s a definite women thing; we’re around the same age (I’m 50) but from a different part of the country and in a different field, and I do it too, We’re socialized to be nice, keep the peace, never hurt anyone’s feelings, and always think of the other guy first. I remember being in grade school and one of the class bullies knocked me down on the playground on purpose, so I called him a jerk. The teacher on duty, who I think was Methusalah’s grandmother, scolded ME for calling HIM names and made ME apologize, because girls had to be ladies and that’s just how boys are.
In my case, appeasement was a survivial tactic for a looooong time and I have to fight back my constant urge to overexplain, justify, and abase myself for every decision I make.
The huns know this and exploit it like a bunch of exploitative exploity exploiters who exploit, and raging about that is one of the things that has kept me around here for as long as it has.
Thank God for the invention of the Block function.
No doesn’t mean no … it just means try harder and lie more to get into her
pantswallet. Just run right over those boundaries and go get that cash cow.If they were treated this way by a man in a nightclub they would be irate.